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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: The people I blame for this misfortunate shooting by the police with a child holding a look-a-like gun is his parents or guardians. Who in their right mind would allow a child to wander around public with a gun looking like the real thing. Who in their right mind would not instruct or demonstrate to this child you do not take a toy like this into public. If the child took this to school he would have been suspended. The people responsible for this child knows who is at fault and in their minds they know they cannot blame the police. A right parent or guardian would have removed and destroyed this toy not allowing the child to have access to it.
    He was in the goddamn park. His parents didn't shoot him.....THE POLICE DID.
    What does a twelve year old know? He's at the park imagining cowboys and indians....and in 2 seconds,,,, he's dead

    You sir.....are a prime candidate for the NUREMBERG TRIALS
    AMC, this country is to blame; the toy manufacturers and Rambo, Star Wars ect. on TV educates our kids the wrong way and every young kid wants a "toy" gun. So blame it on our money hungry society; the CEO of that toy gun company sits in the sun on Hawaii counting his money without being shot.
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    I apologize for getting "off topic" on this thread. I guess the "GUN" topic just gained control.--- Yes it was a horrible crime (by police) to shoot an innocent child who was probably thinking --- cowboys & Indians, -- or cops & robbers (TV shows). But if I heard it right, he was supposedly 12 years old? I think that comes out to being in 7th grade? And in 7th grade, guys begin "dating" girls, some are in junior high school. Where they may begin trying to "act adult" & join clubs & get involved in things like a paper route, or mowing grass for extra money. They could be in Team Sports & church groups. It is somewhat sad that this sweet little boy was all alone, playing with an "altered" toy (to make it look real) & he was rehearsing something he admired, -- shooting a gun. Where would he get the idea that shooting a gun was something to admire? (Not the NRA, of course: ) But maybe he felt threatened by some "gangs" in his neighborhood? Or there were many robberies in his area? Maybe he was practicing, because he wanted to be a COP someday. Now wouldn't that be ironic?
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    In Ohio......... They are saying on the news that the cop who shot and killed this kid.. Balance erased. Sorry
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    I forgot one important FACT when I was writing about the Kennedy (JFK) assassination (earlier in this thread) ---- That when the Warren Commission & others got done evaluating the evidence, they decided to HIDE IT from the American People for 75 years. (Repeat: for seventy-five years). THIS SHOULD TELL YOU that we have NEVER been told the truth YET, because when 75 years have gone by, (from 1964) it will be 2039. How old will YOU BE? My Mom was alive & voting age when JFK was murdered. She will be 97 that year, & Dad will be 100 yrs old. Do you think they will ever live long enough to know the Truth?

    The reason, of course, for this long delay, is to be sure that anybody who DID participate in the murder of JFK would be long dead, & so they would never be put into jail or executed for the crime. And there were MANY involved in that crime. As I have proved, earlier in this thread, the John Birch Society had a LOT to do with the murder of JFK. They printed the posters WANTED FOR TREASON, & other propaganda during that time period, against him, making people believe the total OPPOSITE of the TRUTH. But what would you expect from a large subversive group of GOP millionaires, who did NOT believe in Democracy?

    And then when (gasp) JFK's younger brother Robert F. Kennedy DARED to run for President (to replace his murdered brother, & hold up the Kennedy legacy). the Birch Society could not just stand there & allow THAT. So they had to dig up another assassin that would not be easy to trace, & do the EXACT SAME thing to RFK that they did to JFK. On the night of RFK's murder, in the Ambassador Hotel, during a rally to celebrate RFK's victory speech, a young foreign man was at a rally for a GOP candidate, & then went downstairs into the kitchen & supposedly shot RFK in the head. Ballistics don't match, & Sirhah Sirhan has always said he didn't do it, but was kept in prison, anyway all these years. (another Patsy). In college, I heard a tape of Sirhan, saying he didn't do it, that he thought that Kennedy was a "saint" & was the father of 11 children.) BUT you see, the JBS (Birch Society) could not ALLOW any other liberal Democrat get voted into office, since that would DELAY the Birch objective of "taking over the Republican Party, as soon as possible, & then using IT to takeover the U.S. Govt."

    Birchers wanted either Barry Goldwater or Richard Nixon to run as GOP candidate for President. They preferred Goldwater, since HE was on the Executive Committee of the Birch Society. Founder of the JBS (Birchers) thought Nixon was sleazy & easily corruptible. Boy, was he right. Recall the Impeachment of Nixon? Well, maybe not, because he suddenly "resigned" to avoid that impeachment -- & then had his buddy, Gerald Ford, conveniently "Pardon him."

    Later on, we got Ronald Reagan (the actor, of "Bedtime for Bonzo" & cowboy TV westerns). Ronnie had interesting history. He testified before the House Un-American Activities Committee, saying that many Democrats in the Screen Actors Guild were Communists. Ruining many careers of screen-writers and actors and directors. Of course, one little actress Nancy Davis was also present at those subversive meetings, but SHE was never narked on by Ronnie, & a short while later she was MRS. Ronnie Reagan. (How convenient). By the way, THIS is quite amazing. Ronnie's own son, is an avid DEMOCRAT, even today.

    While Ronnie was President, they had an astrologer approve every appt, or travel plans made by the White House. Ronnie had one attempted assassination, but the guy was a lousy shot, & got the press secretary instead. If the guy had been a better shot, Ronnie would be dead, & ALAS George H. W. Bush would have become President, without ever needing to go thru a pesky election. And this is an amusing fact: The shooter was the "son" of a Bush family friend.

    Well, Reagan had an exciting term. First, he had to make sure that Jimmy Carter did not get re-elected, so they had to RIG that election, too. Carter was Prez when the Ayatollah of IRAN was holding several US embassy workers "hostage". Polling said that if Carter managed to get the hostages released, he would certainly be re-elected President. SO, Reagan & cohorts made a special "deal" with the Ayatollah ruler of IRAN, that the USA would give several million$$ of military weapons (& some missiles stolen from NATO) in order for them to KEEP the US embassy workers hostage awhile longer, until the election was OVER.

    Yep, dear old Ronnie did not care too much if the embassy workers were scared to death, not knowing if they would live or die, under evil imprisonment by a Middle East dictator. And Jimmy Carter was trying to get them released, but Reagan to the Rescue, HE MADE SURE THE Hostages were NOT released until AFTER the election. (Because pollsters said Carter would WIN if the hostages had been released). TALK ABOUT SUBVERSION -- This was a triple attack by such a "hero" as Ronnie Reagan. First, to give weapons to an "enemy" nation is listed as Treason. Second, to make sure American citizens were kept hostage even longer than necessary, was blatant disregard for the well-being of U.S govt workers. Third, the whole idea was to "rig" an election against Jimmy Carter.
    So Ronnie Reagan shows us he is FAR from a Hero of America, --- he has used at least 2 methods of Blatant TREASON against the United States Govt.

    I could go on forever about the Reagan Presidency --- how he crashed the space shuttle & caused the death of 3 astronauts & a "teacher in space", which set back the whole space program considerably. But the GOP hated the space program because it was started by John F. Kennedy, & the U.S. even had the launch location called Cape Kennedy. Immediately the GOP wanted to "change the name of that" & try to diminish any contribution of Kennedy to American history.

    But of course they wanted every state in America to have statues & memorials to Reagan. --- Hmmm - What is wrong with this picture? So a World War II hero & murdered President, (JFK) who never got to live to see his dream of Space travel come true, they want to TAKE AWAY his memorial & instead replace it with dozens of memorials to a cowboy actor, who committed at least 2 acts of treason & sabotaging a legitimate U.S. election. (Yep, that's the good old GOP)

    Once they got started, the GOP got better and better at sabotaging and "rigging" elections. One of the most recent ones, was where George "W" Bush (#43),
    somehow managed to have the FINAL ballot count, occur in his brother's state (Florida), where good old Jeb Bush was Governor. The RESULT of that state would determine the next President of the USA. So everyone held their breath, waiting & waiting to see WHO WON. The ballot count went on endlessly, since in Jeb's state, they had no employees capable of counting right, so they had to do it over & over again. Finally it was decided that no Bush official would ever be able to count past 666, -- so they had to throw the election over to the Supreme Court, (for the first time in U.S.history). And how lucky, Daddy Bush had just appointed some Supreme Court judges a few years earlier, so they owed him a favor. (Amazing how lucky an ex-Prez & head of the CIA can actually be).
    I'd love to be with him on his next visit to that big Las Vegas casino --- owned by some giant GOP contributor. Wow, even the Mafia would be jealous.

    Well, folks, it is election time again, coming up in 2016. Place your bets now --- which form of election "rigging" will the GOP do THIS TIME? They have a whole arsenal of methods to rig elections. And lots of experience doing it. Very few of them have ever gone to prison due to those actions. So now, we will have to figure out how to beat them at their own game. --- They have already played the first Chess Piece. Start another WAR, --- or actually it is the SAME OLD WAR --- back again into the Desert. The shifting whispering sands. The place of subversive secrets -- buried treasure -- & the silence of the Sphinx.
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    The Medical Examiner has determined this 12 year olds cause of death was Homicide according to the autopsy.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/12/tamir-rice-death-homicide_n_6316104.html
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    No need for another thread...... August was a bad month to be a black man in America. Cops killed the 12 year old with a toy gun and guess what........ they killed this guy also for picking up an air rifle off of the shelf at Walmart (presumably to buy it) while walking around the store somebody called the police because OMG he was black and that's scary !!!!!!! Just like with the 12 year old...... cops approached the guy and within 1 second shot him dead. Don't you think that if 3 cops have drawn weapons pointing at the guy, they could kill within a split second...... I guess the training doesn't allow for the sentence "DROP THE GUN" or are you intending to buy that gun that really looks kinda scary even though it's 100% legal to be carrying it in this store.
    White cops, dead black man, Crime: Shopping. And last but not least..... the grand jury has decided not to indict anyone even though another person is dead. He was shopping.
    I bought a pellet gun about 9 months ago. Picked it up off of the shelf, looked at it and a couple others. Walked to the register and paid for it. Nobody questions me. Nobody killed me. Of course I was being white the whole time.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/09/25/ohio-wal-mart-surveillance-video-shows-police-shooting-and-killing-john-crawford-iii/
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    I don't want to beat a dead horse but I encourage all to read my 12/18 post. Dead man in Ohio. No crime, no conflict with police (except when they killed him).
    He was going to buy an air rifle that he picked up off of the shelf. Now people are dying for shopping. Or as with the Ferguson case..... Shopping while black.
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    Where's the sanity?...........You all are still talking people who committed verified crimes, even the poor guy purchasing the air rifle, who was told to put the gun down and did not. His encounter with the Police was he resisted a command, which the police applied force.

    Where's the sanity?...............You all are still appealing to the criminal and just did not stop to notice three police assassinated within the last 24 hours.

    Where's the sanity?...............I guess your silence on the Police shows where your social concerns lie. You all must support the crime committed rather than the Police just doing their jobs.

    Where's the sanity???????????????????????????????????????????
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Where's the sanity?...........You all are still talking people who committed verified crimes, even the poor guy purchasing the air rifle, who was told to put the gun down and did not. His encounter with the Police was he resisted a command, which the police applied force.
    You are one hundred percent incorrect sir, but when has that ever stopped you before?

    Ferguson--Mike Brown was stopped for walking while black. Only after he was harassed for walking while black did the cop realize that he fit a description of a suspect who just stole five dollars worth of cigars. Then he shot that kid multiple times from over one hundred feet away. Where was Darren Wilson's sanity during the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth shot?

    New York--Eric Garner was stopped for standing while black. He had no cigarettes on his person. The cops didn't care about that and decided to take him down, place him in an illegal chokehold, and murder an unarmed citizen for standing on the street. Where was Daniel Pantaleo's sanity when he choked an unarmed man to death?

    Beavercreek, Ohio-- John Crawford was murdered by police while legally holding an air rifle inside of a Wal-Mart. He was threatening no one, as multiple surveillance cameras have proven. The same surveillance videos directly contradict police stated version of events, showing they murdered him mere seconds after confronting him and giving him zero time to comply with their demands. Where was Sean Williams sanity when he murdered an individual lawfully carrying an air rifle inside of a store that sells air rifles?

    Cleveland, Ohio-- Tamir Rice was murdered by police less than two seconds after police confronted him for holding an air rifle in a park. They didn't attempt to speak with him or demand that he drop his weapon. They just shot him in cold blood. His murderer was written up multiple times by his former employer, a fact that the Cleveland PD didn't bother to investigate at all. Where was Timothy Loehmann's sanity when he murdered a damn boy holding an air rifle?
    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Where's the sanity?...............You all are still appealing to the criminal and just did not stop to notice three police assassinated within the last 24 hours.
    These are terrible tragedies. You politicizing it and saying that anyone who disagrees with you is someone who loves criminals is sickening and juvenile.
    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Where's the sanity?...............I guess your silence on the Police shows where your social concerns lie. You all must support the crime committed rather than the Police just doing their jobs.
    I have been away spending time with my family for the past couple of days. I can't speak for anyone else, but I was planning on writing on this when I returned. You really are a terrible person for suggesting that we cheer the murder of cops. Just because someone doesn't like the fact that cops get away with murdering unarmed citizens doesn't mean that we want them to be shot in cold blood. Seriously. Something is legitimately wrong with you.
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    Tit for tat. while you glorify the protests with the looting, arson, assaults and non-PEACEFUL mob mentality, at the same time you profess that you know how Police should approach crime. Most of the respondents on this forum do not have substantial knowledge to even suggest options on how a Police Officer should react to crime. Those poor Police officers assassinated in New York didn't even have two seconds to defend themselves. This is clearly the mob mentality of the protests and the emotional drama that is taking place within America. Now, three Police Officers cannot enjoy Christmas with their families. I haven't read the full story on the Florida murder, but I do understand they have a suspect that sufficient evidence exists for a charge of murder.

    The insanity of it all, is people are so spent on this racial thing that they have no concept on peace. While this Christmas should be about peace and a celebration amongst the faithful glorifying a child borne upon this world to save of us all, I'm trying hard to overlook the evil that has transpired on this forum and in the protests that have taking over peace in America. You only have to read the responding people on supporting these protests and being anti-Police to get the full message that something is wrong. I'm out for Christmas and maybe for good....................being fed up with unintelligence, threats on religious beliefs and a disturbing trend of childish playground tactics. Now, that is relevancy to a world of irrelevant behavior.
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    Hey moron, The guy shopping at Walmart committed no crime at all. He was merely shopping while black. He's very dead though. They could kill a million and you wouldn't give a shit. Bad Karma begets Bad Karma.
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    Tony Johnson Wrote: Hey moron, The guy shopping at Walmart committed no crime at all. He was merely shopping while black. He's very dead though. They could kill a million and you wouldn't give a shit. Bad Karma begets Bad Karma.
    As I've said before...AMC is trying to ruffle feathers........being a self righteous man takes a lot of work.. It' must be a heavy burden having all that secret knowledge to which he bestows upon us. Don't fall into the well Tony
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: I'm out for Christmas and maybe for good....................being fed up with unintelligence, threats on religious beliefs and a disturbing trend of childish playground tactics. Now, that is relevancy to a world of irrelevant behavior.
    I'm sorry I or anyone else hurt your feelings. You do know that unintelligence isn't a proper word though, right? That's a little ironic to challenge other peoples intelligence by using a word that isn't real.

    No one on this website has ever threatened your religious beliefs, whatever that means. Just because members may disagree with your viewpoints on religion or countless other topics doesn't mean they are threatening your well being or religious freedom. You are free to worship whatever deity in the sky that you wish to. No one on this website is preventing you from doing that.

    It seems as if you are awfully angry that someone dares to have a different opinion about what's going on in America and with the way we view the actions of some police officers. Why is it so personal when someone has the audacity to challenge your viewpoints? That's the entire point of debate.

    Just because we disagree with you doesn't mean we are bad people, Un-American, terrorists, assholes, or any other bad thing you can come up with. I feel I'm a pretty damn good person who most likely donates far more of my time and money than you ever have. I'm a big brother, work at food banks, take the time to just have a conversation with a homeless person and make sure they know where soup kitchens and other resources are, and a whole plethora of other things that I feel will make a difference in someone else's life. I do all of this all while being an avowed and unabashed atheist. I don't tell you this because I want you or anyone else to pat me on the back; I tell you this because I'm really damn tired of you and some others on this website personally attacking others because they aren't as holy as you.

    I look at the same things you look at and come to a different conclusion as to what is going on in America and who is responsible for it. You want to blame peaceful protesters for making your evening commute just a little more difficult. I want to blame 'the system' that perpetuates racism against our black citizens. We just look at things from a different perspective. It's your right to think the way you do and it's my right to think the way I do.
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    jared,
    I agree with you 99.5 % of the time. As always you've made some very good points. I hope AMC takes about a month to enjoy the holidays.
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    Tony Johnson Wrote: jared,
    I agree with you 99.5 % of the time. As always you've made some very good points. I hope AMC takes about a month to enjoy the holidays.
    Jared and Tony; AMEN!!! The bad thing is though that there are plenty of flag draped AK 47 carrying AMC's around who are totally indoctrinated.