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Is This The End For Bill Cosby?

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Bill Cosby has spent his entire career building a reputation as a 'family guy' role model who everyone can look up to, but the rape accusations leveled against him by 14 different women stand to forever change that. The damning allegations have resurfaced after being largely forgotten about after Cosby settled a sexual assault lawsuit out of court ten years ago. The media ran the story for a couple of days and, as if on cue, we all forgot about it.

    That doesn't seem to be the case this time around. The fact that 14 separate women have publicly come forward with rather iron clad stories painting a far different picture of Cosby is going to be very hard to overcome. The court of public opinion is beginning to turn against Cosby and his past actions seem to be catching up to him.

    This has undoubtedly been difficult for fans of the star. So many want to reflexively stick up for him and cast aside the allegations as nonsense. I admit that it's hard seeing the wholesome father figure I grew up watching on television in this light, but that shouldn't cloud my ability to look at this case objectively. Rape is a very serious issue and just because someone is famous doesn't give them a free pass to take advantage of whoever they wish.

    Has anyone been keeping up with Cosby's recent troubles? Do you think the allegations are true or have these fourteen women somehow formed a coordinated conspiracy to sabotage Cosby's reputation?
  • Center Left
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    I think that Bill Cosby will be just fine. If he was 30 years old.... Big Problems. He's probably 80 and he doesn't need any money. The recent allegations are very serious and as I heard a woman say earlier, she's one of thirteen who made the same claims. That sounds very bad. Previous cases never went to court. Pay offs or just good lawyers ? Who knows. But so far no official record. It would be smart for the Jello Pudding people to drop his ass. Move on to someone positive.
    Cosby is supposed to have a new show on NBC soon. He's working on a show with Netflix also. He'll be just fine. There will be an asterisk on his Wikipedia life story though.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Tony Johnson Wrote: I think that Bill Cosby will be just fine. If he was 30 years old.... Big Problems. He's probably 80 and he doesn't need any money. The recent allegations are very serious and as I heard a woman say earlier, she's one of thirteen who made the same claims. That sounds very bad. Previous cases never went to court. Pay offs or just good lawyers ? Who knows. But so far no official record. It would be smart for the Jello Pudding people to drop his ass. Move on to someone positive.
    Cosby is supposed to have a new show on NBC soon. He's working on a show with Netflix also. He'll be just fine. There will be an asterisk on his Wikipedia life story though.
    I sure hope he won't be just fine if these allegations are true. I don't care if he's 80--he needs to be tried and jailed if found guilty by a jury. It really just depends what state any of the alleged rapes happened in because the statute of limitations vary wildly by state. Some don't have any time limit while others have a ten year window to file charges against an assailant.

    This is more than an asterisk on a Wikipedia page. If he is a serial rapist then he needs to be behind bars. Plain and simple.
  • Liberal
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    He is a typical abuse. I'm surprised he isn't a part time scout leader or preacher. One or two allegations can be questionable perhaps but fourteen - no way! I hope they throw the book at him but I suspect the statute of limitations has long passed and he will just fade away. I hope so.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    pgr Wrote: I hope they throw the book at him but I suspect the statute of limitations has long passed and he will just fade away.
    Some states have no statute of limitations for rape or sexual assault. Others have an appallingly short statue of limitations for rape or sexual assault. It all depends when, and most importantly where, his alleged assaults took place.

    Statutes of Limitations for Sexual Assault by state
  • Liberal
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    To commit a rape on the street is an individual who has hate and absolutely no self control of his primal behavior. An impulsive lunatic.

    In this case (if true) this man was calculating and patient....and in control. Which tells me that he understands right and wrong, but chooses to be smarter then the victim and cops (so he believes).
    Only an educated, succesful and wealthy man would display this type of arrogance if committing crimes. Poor rapist are impulsive, rich rapists are cunning....smarter than everyone else.

    If true, this guy is a dangerous predator..... he knows better, he understands the law......but in all rapist they have to feed that need.


    I know factually that he objected to the show Amos and Andy....although he did object to "OUR GANG" publicly, the owner of the rights stated that he had nothing to do with OUR GANG being banned from television ( for the portrayal of the Buc Wheat character)

    He has been very critical of Rappers and any type of entertainment that sheds any negative stereotypical issues about black people.

    This potentialy can be the Holy grail of HIPPOCARACY
  • Center Left
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    Agreed, all guilty people should be made to answer serious questions and should pay a price for their bad acts. L.A. I think your points were very good. He's a thinker and probably usually careful. However he does have an obsession that has caused his to do this so many times. He's got a gold reputation until recently.
    I've heard various women talk about these events. More than one has suggested that he drugged them. Not with chemical pharmaceuticals but with the same equivalent in herbal medicines (slipped into a drink). They say when they came back to being aware, the deed had already been done. I thought that was strange.
  • Liberal
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    TJ Wrote: Agreed, all guilty people should be made to answer serious questions and should pay a price for their bad acts. L.A. I think your points were very good. He's a thinker and probably usually careful. However he does have an obsession that has caused his to do this so many times. He's got a gold reputation until recently.
    I've heard various women talk about these events. More than one has suggested that he drugged them. Not with chemical pharmaceuticals but with the same equivalent in herbal medicines (slipped into a drink). They say when they came back to being aware, the deed had already been done. I thought that was strange.
    How does one respond to these allegations? is he going to deny all 17 allegations from women who never knew one another???

    The funny thing is there are so many crimes one can be accused of...and it always seems to be a sexual crime. Not one of these actors are ever accused of odometer tampering, real estate fraud, money laundering... Always Drugs and sex

    This is why I believe some of the accusations. The two things that Hollywood is known for behind the scenes are drugs and sex. Look at Charlie Sheen. You would think he would be accused of rape at some point,,,,and never has. That's why he's my hero. This guy lived life on his terms.

    Bill Cosby took the self righteouss approach his entire career (must be Catholic). This makes perfect sense to me. Not all of them are lying. I'm sure thers a few in the group looking for press,,,,,but not all of them.

    Good bye Mr. Cosby. We won't be hearing from you anymore
  • Center Left
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    The other day it was announced that NBC was canceling the new show that Cosby was supposed to act in. Netflix is also canceling the comedy special that they had scheduled for the end of November. Sounds like the bad press has caught up with the dirty old man. His wife seems to be standing by him. It's because of her financial interests - I'm sure - We'll have to see if there are civil cases to follow. In most if not all legal cases....prosecutors have said that since such a long time passed before accusations were made, it was too late to do a rape kit/test. Thus giving no tangible evidence to be used in a court of law. SAD.
  • Liberal
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    I hope it is.
  • Independent
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    seems he gets off scot free. statute of limitations has run out.
    His image is tarnished, but that's all.
    www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/cosby-wont-be-charged-over-molestation-claim/ar-BBgT1...
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Even if the statue of limitations had not run out, the charges would seem difficult to prosecute without corroborating witnesses or some kind of direct evidence like stains on a dress. Perhaps the shear numbers of individual victims coming forward are witnesses that can establish a credible pattern of behavior. Otherwise, sex crimes of the "he said, she said" variety are hard to prove guilt without hard evidence (DNA?) and witnesses.
  • Liberal
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    I thought his wife's response to this whole sordid affair was disgusting. She is just an enabler in my opinion. It seems that just about everyone who was close to him in real life understood what a fraud he was. She chose to accept his behavior (and doesn't even really deny it) for fifty years and now she says "Poor us". It only goes to show what she really is and what her real views and priorities are.

    Personally, I hope they both just fade away and we never have to look at either of them again!
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    My best instincts tell me it is better not to get involved in this controversy. But I can't help it. If any of the women's accusations were REAL, how come there are no records? No doctor's appts to verify if VD or pregnancy occurred? No evidence any of them went to an abused women's shelter? No police reports?

    Supposedly, no records (or memories) of ever having told their "best friends" about the incident? Or even any members of their family? That's SO WEIRD.
    In most cases, it has been about 30 or 40 years ago, that the supposed "rape" occurred. Absolutely BIZARRE, that nobody said anything to anybody.

    NOW: the MOTIVE for all these current accusations. It is SIMPLE: "Publicity" --- These women are in their 50's (approx) -- & they are "has beens" who do not
    get a lot of attention anymore, --- & don't make a lot of money anymore --- so they think they can get a "windfall" out of Bill Cosby, in his old age.
    They have all obviously gotten together to corroborate their testimony. But sorry -- I REALLY DO NOT BELIEVE THEM AT ALL.
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    eternal flame Wrote:
    Supposedly, no records (or memories) of ever having told their "best friends" about the incident? Or even any members of their family? That's SO WEIRD.
    In most cases, it has been about 30 or 40 years ago, that the supposed "rape" occurred. Absolutely BIZARRE, that nobody said anything to anybody.

    There are woman who have lived with abuse (domestic, other) for decades and fear to expose it. There are woman who have shuttered experiences in their past lives within themselves and held them there for decades. These women may have been silent, but once one opened up, they felt their own need to do the same. Many women who are assaulted never report it. Many find the only way to deal with it (sometimes decades) is to repress it. And then, in some way, something happens which frees them to open up and thus cleanse themselves of what has been hurting inside. These women are the better for having finally let their demons free. Not wanting to explore this further, let me just say I understand why, and why now, and I am glad that, even if he is not punished, at least they have been freed of THEIR burdens. Perhaps his public exposure in itself IS his punishment.
    As for his wife, as an enabler (which I believe she was), I also believe many partners are enablers. That is another whole discussion. Not really for this forum.