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Supreme Court to hear case about ACA

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  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    The Supreme Court has agreed to hear a case about the Affordable Care Act. A detail that allows for subsidies to help low income
    and middle income citizens get assistance in paying premiums for coverage will be examined. Some are saying that it's part of an IRS
    rule that is questionable in it's legality that allows the funds for the subsidy.
    I found a good link to the story but it was quite long and since I can't copy any paste a link I have to type it all out. Not this time.
    It was said that the case will probably be heard in March.
    Wouldn't that just make republicans very happy if they can take affordable health care away from the poor.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    I'm surprised they were so willing to take this case so quickly because it honestly doesn't make that much sense if you follow how the Supreme Court actually decides what cases they will hear. But, believe it or not, I'm actually somewhat optimistic they are taking this case to make an affirmative ruling on this law once and far all.

    Only four justices are needed in order for the Supreme Court to hear a case. We pretty much know what four justices those are (Alito, Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy) and maybe Roberts. I say maybe because they don't say how many justices actually vote to hear a case. Roberts voted to let this law go forward back in 2012. I would be really, really surprised (and dismayed) if he changed this mind and allowed this law to be thrown away due to the way one interprets the English language.

    The havoc that would cause and the anger that would create would virtually guarantee a Democratic landslide in 2016. I don't think Roberts wants to see that because then he would likely be sealing his fate to a permanent minority status in the Supreme Court for the remainder of his life. If a Democratic President wins in 2016 then we are virtually guaranteed to retake the Supreme Court because one of those old guys on the right will almost certainly die sometime in the next Administration. I just don't see Roberts sealing that fate by voting to take healthcare away from millions of people.

    My cynical side in me actually wants the Supreme Court to throw the law out so the Democrats who stayed home this election can be shocked into realizing that they can't only vote once every four years. Elections matter and staying home because there isn't a President on the ballot has consequences. The extremely compassionate side of me will be appalled if this far right court decides to rip healthcare away from millions of citizens because of a potential typo.
  • Center Left
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    What seriously worries me is that even though it was affirmed in 2012 it was a very close vote. Passed by 1 vote. The republicans have tried to cancel/stop/eliminate the ACA like 58 times since it was passed. They are obsessed on the topic. I think it's because in the world of haves and have nots.... the republicans have money and health insurance. The just want to take it from the poor to save a dollar which should make it more feasible to give more millionaire's a tax break. The Supreme Court just decided today that they would hear the case so it's story is in the days news.


    http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/11/court-to-rule-on-health-care-subsidies/


    above link added is an article that explains what is going on and how it could be bad news for many people
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Tony, yes I believe that indeed we are in for a lot more surprises; especially if some one out of all places like Kentucky gets promoted. That state is like an Christian ISIS, so just wait till the cows come home.
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    I know you all will be pleased if the ACA is allowed to prevail, because Obama, (who has done nothing wrong), deserves to have his legacy preserved for succeeding generations. After all, to my point of view, ACA is basically just an Extension of MEDICARE which has been around for 50 years or more. It kept many of my older aunts, uncles, grandpa & neighbors alive, & it was a GREAT PROGRAM.

    MAIN POINT: The concept of Govt paying to help the poor & needy, the orphans & the elderly, the crippled or disabled, & military veterans, or elderly widows --- is NOT a new concept. And it is NOT a modern concept of the Democrats or the Socialists or any other Party.

    This idea of "Govt assistance" to any citizens (like the above) actually came from the Founding Fathers. Yes, back in 1776 our leaders who founded this great nation, had already been considering measures for the assistance of the needy.

    THOMAS PAINE: (one of my favorites) had written about it. (He had lived in England & there met Benjamin Franklin, who brought him here to America, just in time for the Revolution). Ben Franklin had a printing press, & Thos Paine was a great writer, so the 2 of them had been extremely influential in spreading the word, why we needed to go to WAR with England, to get our Freedom from the British crown.

    I have to leave right now, but hopefully I can get back here to tell the Reference from Thos Paine, where he outlines all his ideas which he shared with Tom Jefferson, on why & how to disperse funds to all the needy members in society. (NOTE: It may sound very "familiar' to you: )
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    eternal flame Wrote: I know you all will be pleased if the ACA is allowed to prevail, because Obama, (who has done nothing wrong), deserves to have his legacy preserved for succeeding generations. After all, to my point of view, ACA is basically just an Extension of MEDICARE which has been around for 50 years or more. It kept many of my older aunts, uncles, grandpa & neighbors alive, & it was a GREAT PROGRAM.
    I would LOVE it if Obamacare was an extension of Medicare, but it isn't even remotely close to being that. Medicare is a single-payer system that provides healthcare for senior citizens. Obamacare expands the for-profit system and forces insurers to accept everyone. It also expands Medicaid in the states that have chosen to expand it. That's hardly the same thing as Medicare, but it is at least a good start.
  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    There is a great (explanatory) article on this topic in the news section of this site. It is suggested reading as it's very informative.