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John Stewart Debate's Bill O'Reilly on White Privilege


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    JC, I give up on you! You don't even understand what the subject is and you are talking total nonsense now.
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    Don't give up, explain your position as to why you still think that there still a pervasive policy within the government of "White Privilege. Just give me some examples where a whites only policy within the government has benefited the white population as a whole over other ethnic groups.
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    johnnycee Wrote: Just give me some examples where a whites only policy within the government has benefited the white population as a whole over other ethnic groups.
    Law enforcement--study after study shows that whites commit far more crime, but blacks are disproportionately stopped, searched, arrested, and convicted of crimes compared to the white population.

    Prison sentences--once convicted of a crime blacks are sentenced to far longer prison sentences compared to their white counterparts for the same exact crimes

    Education--perhaps the worst of all...the way public schools are funded wholly benefits the white population. Funding schools based off of a persons address perpetuates the education crisis we have had for the past few decades. Rich, white suburbs receive far more federal and state funding for public schools compared to their poor, inner-city, and minority dominated counterparts.

    Lending practices of private banks--a whole host of studies shows how blacks are denied small business loans at an exponentially higher rate compared to whites who apply for small business loans. If they are lucky enough to get a loan, blacks consistently pay far higher interest rates compared to their white counterparts. The same goes for mortgages and every other type of lending banks do.

    Drug enforcement--I guess this can be a subset of law enforcement, but I feel it deserves its own category. Blacks use FEWER drugs than whites, but are arrested and convicted of drug crimes at a much higher rate. If a white is charged and convicted, they are far less likely to spend prison time and if they do it is far lower than that of black sentences.

    Shall I go on?? I can do this all day long...

    This is what we mean when we say there is a pervasive 'white privilege' in this country.
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: Just give me some examples where a whites only policy within the government has benefited the white population as a whole over other ethnic groups.
    Law enforcement--study after study shows that whites commit far more crime, but blacks are disproportionately stopped, searched, arrested, and convicted of crimes compared to the white population.

    Prison sentences--once convicted of a crime blacks are sentenced to far longer prison sentences compared to their white counterparts for the same exact crimes

    Education--perhaps the worst of all...the way public schools are funded wholly benefits the white population. Funding schools based off of a persons address perpetuates the education crisis we have had for the past few decades. Rich, white suburbs receive far more federal and state funding for public schools compared to their poor, inner-city, and minority dominated counterparts.

    Lending practices of private banks--a whole host of studies shows how blacks are denied small business loans at an exponentially higher rate compared to whites who apply for small business loans. If they are lucky enough to get a loan, blacks consistently pay far higher interest rates compared to their white counterparts. The same goes for mortgages and every other type of lending banks do.

    Drug enforcement--I guess this can be a subset of law enforcement, but I feel it deserves its own category. Blacks use FEWER drugs than whites, but are arrested and convicted of drug crimes at a much higher rate. If a white is charged and convicted, they are far less likely to spend prison time and if they do it is far lower than that of black sentences.

    Shall I go on?? I can do this all day long...

    This is what we mean when we say there is a pervasive 'white privilege' in this country.
    I had asked for examples not your own private opinion on the matter, Drug enforcement unfortunately is concentrated in poor areas , so there is a matter of more crimes being done by minority people hence more arrests, perhaps less capable Atty's for representation might account for the numerous plea deals as opposed to trials which means a higher incarceration rate, nothing to do with white privilege btw, the lending issue is another matter, how you can get white privilege out the Fannie Mae and Fannie Mac debacle is beyond me, which did have a trickle down effort on other lending institutions, again ,nothing to do with white privilege, keep trying though.
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    JC,
    Do you think that you're being clever ? Nobody else see's it that way. You're sounding very much like a racist. But then.......
    It's probably best to stop this thread. It's been explained repeatedly but you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
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    You are claiming white privilege which is a form of racism is pervasive throughout the nation, without proof mind you, I say that privilege is not confined to the white race with proof, and I'm the possible racist??? Yes .please end this thread.

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    johnnycee Wrote: I had asked for examples not your own private opinion on the matter
    Do you understand the definition of example or proof?

    johnnycee Wrote:Drug enforcement unfortunately is concentrated in poor areas , so there is a matter of more crimes being done by minority people hence more arrests,
    The above is an example of white privilege. White privilege means that the DEA is placed in poor and minority areas, even though statistics show that more rich, white people do drugs. This is the literal definition of one of your required 'examples' you were asking for. I encourage you to get back to studying your dictionary again...

    johnnycee Wrote:perhaps less capable Atty's for representation might account for the numerous plea deals as opposed to trials which means a higher incarceration rate, nothing to do with white privilege btw,
    You are wrong...once again. This has everything to do with white privilege. White people are able to afford better lawyers, which are able to then get better plea deals. These better attorneys are friends with the judges who hand down the sentences. White people get community service. Black people get 20 years in prison. And if you actually took the time to read up on the facts, which I understand you are loathe to do, you would realize that blacks are sentenced longer even if they were convicted of the same crime. Once again though...facts just seem to be something you genuinely struggle with.

    johnnycee Wrote:the lending issue is another matter, how you can get white privilege out the Fannie Mae and Fannie Mac debacle is beyond me, which did have a trickle down effort on other lending institutions, again ,nothing to do with white privilege, keep trying though.
    If you actually read what I wrote then you would notice that I said private banks. Let me explain this in the most layman terms possible... Blacks are denied loans at a far higher rate than whites. Blacks pay more interest if they actually get a loan. Blacks pay more for everything.

    I encourage you to read up on Bank of America's half billion dollar settlement for these practices. Or maybe you can study Wells Fargo's nearly $200 million dollar settlement for the same thing. Or if you still want to try to act like we are in some post racial utopia then maybe you can look over JP Morgan Chase, Barney's, and countless other banks settlements for treating blacks differently. My goodness. Your white privilege blinders are somewhat laughable if you weren't like millions of other white guys in this country. In that case, it's actually really, really depressing.

    Thanks for making me prove you wrong once again though. It's important for me to fact check people like you. That's the only way we will change our ways in this country.
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    The end!
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    Found this mildly negative story about O'Reilly on the internet (sorry JC)...... Picked this thread in the category of O'Reilly threads in order to post it.
    It does beg the question......If he was so unhappy, why in the hell was he even at the event ?

    http://www.aol.com/article/2015/03/18/will-ferrell-calls-out-bill-oreilly-while-dressed-as-a-leprecha/21154765/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl31%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D629577
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    (This is not about White Privilege)
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    The issue isn't federal government.

    It is society and state/local governments and good ol' boy networks.

    There are a variety of privileges that exist. White privilege is one. Wealth privilege is another as seen in the example of so-called legacy admissions for sons of rich men in Ivy League schools. The concept of white privilege is seen in the drop in minority enrollment in colleges when affirmative action is removed. It is seen in instances where white criminals receive lighter sentences than minorities. It is seen in the school/prison pipeline. another example of wealth privilege is the cutting of welfare, food stamps etc while increasing defense spending. More white receive welfare but they lack for wealth to put them on sound white privilege footing. Even still they have a leg up just by being white.
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    White privilege is still alive and well in America today.

    A black army officer in Virginia, Caron Nazario was recently pulled over in Virginia by two white policeman. Wisely, he did not pull over until he was in a well lit area. Even then, he refused to get out of his vehicle because he remembered what had happened to his uncle, Eric Garner. He put his hands up inside the vehicle, but he was still pepper sprayed by the officers. He is now suing the officers involved for $1 million.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/04/14/caron-nazario-eric-garner/

    Nazario's traffic stop happened a few days after another unarmed black man in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota was shot during traffic stop by a white police officer. Brooklyn Center is only 10 miles from the site where Derek Chavin is on trial for murdering an unarmed black man.

    Meanwhile ..

    U.S. Capitol Police officers were told by their leaders not to use their most aggressive tactics to stop the mob that attacked the Capitol on Jan. 6 despite advance warnings about potential violence targeting Congress, the New York Times reported on Tuesday, citing an inspector general’s report.

    In the report, Michael Bolton, inspector general of the Capitol Police, criticized the way the agency prepared for and responded to the violence by supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the Times.

    Bolton found that the agency’s leaders “ordered their Civil Disturbance Unit to refrain from using its most powerful crowd-control tolls - like stun grenades - to put down the onslaught,” the Times said.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-capitol/u-s-capitol-police-were-told-not-to-use-most-aggressive-tactics-during-jan-6-riot-ny-times-idUSKBN2C105D

    After George Floyd's death, protests erupted across the country. In Washington, D.C, peaceful demonstrators were forced from a park near the White House.

    Federal police officers who cleared a crowded park near the White House with smoke and tear gas in June violated court-ordered regulations that spell out how demonstrators are to be warned before aggressive tactics are used against them, attorneys who helped write the agreed-upon rules say.

    In particular, the 2015 guidelines require warning large crowds multiple times they need to disperse, and doing so loudly enough that the orders can be heard for blocks. But a National Guard official who was there that night, and who has become a whistleblower in the case, has told Congress that U.S. Park Police used a simple megaphone that few could hear.

    Protesters in Lafayette Square near the White House on June 1 said police advanced through the crowd with little warning, firing tear gas and smoke canisters shortly before President Trump appeared outside for a photograph in front of St. John's Episcopal Church.

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    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/11/911912921/protesters-were-supposed-to-hear-warnings-before-federal-police-moved-in-they-di

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    I wrote about crowd control before. Other civilized countries use "water cannons" instead; so much easier and effective.

    During the warning they could have placed these on strategic points to get rid of the invaders in a few minutes. where are the brains here?