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The Child is "NOT" a mistake

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  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    Adrian Peterson has been saying in public, "I made a mistake." So, the four year old child, I assume HE helped make with a woman, is a mistake? A mistake he can abuse at will whenever and whatever circumstance suits him in anger. Mr. Peterson can beat, whip and torture this four year to show the Doctor the skin bruising and blood coming from wounds inflicted by an enraged animal that shows no patience as a parent. Sorry, Mr. Peterson is a bad parent and needs counseling at minimum if ever he should come close to children again.

    Rice is another person that seems to have made a mistake. Rice's mistake is having a relationship with a woman? Again, a mistake a person can abuse at will whenever and whatever circumstance suits him in anger. Mr. Rice knocked the woman out. What a coward and low life to exhibit a display of no responsibility for his actions. What would have happened if he had killed his wife? Oh, I made a mistake. People need to take responsibility for their own mistakes rather than use them for their defense of a crime.

    A mistake should not be a legal defense in helping a person defend his/he crime. It's not a mistake, it's a crime. Child abuse and spousal abuse is a crime and not a mistake.

    Here are search links on "National Child Abuse"

    http://www.childhelp.org/pages/statistics

    http://www.nationalchildabusecoalition.org/

    The Federal Government spends less than a congressional member on child protection in America than each of 13 states. This is stated in the above link.

    Please contact 1-800-422-4453 to report child abuse in any case, even those identified as a "mistake". I can't get over people minimizing their problems in anger by calling their issue as a mistake. Angry parents are all over the sidelines in youth sports and it is common to see a parent in rage over youth not performing as they think they should. I'll report any parent that takes out their child in youth sports in a state of rage. Let the police handle the crime. If the parent wants to see rage, well we have plenty of police that would be glad to give it to them.

    Protect humanity because there is a war going on from not only abuse, but trafficking and slavery that attacks our children and women. Too many defend these actions against humanity calling them legal prostitution of people. What a farce and lie defending these terror acts against the defenseless. There's no honor or integrity in defending animal behavior in human character.
  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    AMC,
    You've taken much on this topic waaaay out of context. AP saying he made a mistake wasn't talking about the child. Take a breath and relax. Nobody is against children. You're just wrong in how you've interpreted a few things on this topic. AP's mistake was his actions. That's the point that you've not understood. If the moderators were kind, they would delete this post as it's an extension of a major misunderstanding.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    It's not fair to the four year old and the other sibling that AP took his rage out on. So, what is a mistake? A murder or some other crime? AP treated his children as "If" they where a mistake in his life, because he couldn't handle the pressures of being a parent. It's a major responsibility having children and will the abuse will continue in the headlines until people are realizing that more children and women are being abused. I'm sorry I disagree on this as I do identify AP as making a mistake at being a good father to his children. AP committed a crime and what the media is saying this morning, I'm not far from the truth where sponsors are backing away from the Vikings Organization and Adrian Peterson. Social circles in treating abused people are also all over this and want their stories told because of America's dismal support to victims of abuse. I believe the public is about to break the dam on this issue and it will be a long time before the dust settles. Just like Ferguson, which exposed the criminal impact of authority on citizens. Now we have an enormous money pit (NFL) playing soft on the issue of children and women abuse. America is standing up to this flagrant disregard for humanity. Watch the election speeches, where questions will arise on the candidates, "What are you going to do about children and women abuse?".

    It is forthcoming, America has to answer this issue and not hide from it.

    I challenge anyone to respond indicating this is wrong on accusing the abuser and identifying it as a crime not a mistake in their actions. I cannot minimize the severity of this issue as it relates to an abusive culture in human trafficking, prostitution, slavery, and total disregard of human life. I would appreciate anybody from an abusive relationship to share they are now a "better" person because of the abuse. What a false testimony in human tragedy.

    I advocate "Zero Tolerance" on those that abuse children, women, the old and the handicapped. This issue cannot be handled by those who stick their heads in the ground. You have to stand for something in this world and be somebody who promotes humanity.
  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    I'm going to stop replying to you (on any topic) because from the top of your soapbox you can't hear a thing. FIRST OF ALL !!!!!!!! Stop acting like you're the only one who gives a damn about the victims. You are not ! You are crazy. That's evident. I saw litter today. Must be human trafficking and legal prostitution. Those are the root of all evil.

  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    Not being a sports fan, I have no idea who any of these players are and really don't care, but I do have a few conflicting thoughts. The elevator punk deserves to be locked up and never play again as far as I'm concerned, on the other hand, I'm totally against corporal punishment because I feel it only encourages more bad behavior in people as adults. The switch guy deserves to be punished but at the same time he says he was only acting as he was treated as a kid and I believe him. That doesn't excuse him but I actually do believe he has learned a good lesson from this event and will become a better person because of it. The elevator puncher - I don't think so. The real problem here is people believing that if their parents beat them they have not only the right but the duty to hit their children which is just not true. Violence only begets more violence it doesn't teach anything. A true adult doesn't need to resort to violence to deal with others, particularly children.
  • Center Left
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    Denton, TX
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    You took the situation WAY out of context. He isn't saying that the child is a mistake. He is saying that his actions were.

    It doesn't seem like Peterson was trying to be abusive. There is a good chance that he wasn't hitting his child out of anger and was genuinely thinking that he was teaching his child right from wrong. And then he took it too far. He may not have trying to maliciously hurt his child.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    No way, I'm not buying that garbage of defending Peterson. He doesn't want the responsibility of being a parent. This is not his first abuse to a child. Peterson busted the head open on a previous child of his from a girl friend. So this is his second attempt of terrorizing four year old boys. What do abusers need to do to be more convincing, a death of a child from their hands? I don't get the way people defend these monsters.

    Peterson committed a crime and let's see what the courts will say. I can get all embroiled on this subject as it is heartless and cruel human behavior that gets "men", mostly, coming to Peterson's aid. Oh.....he got a little stressed out! Oh.....give him some counseling and let him try again being a parent!

    Sorry, Peterson would be glad I'm not on the jury.............he's guilty. Anybody that whips a child with a tree branch producing scarring and blood letting marks, doesn't deserve my mercy. He's guilty and I hope he goes to prison. Maybe that prison cell-buddy he makes doing time will show him how to punish people, while he's on the receiving end.

    Tonight on the news media was the National Organization of Women (NOW) president speaking on women abuse and she indicated that less than 10% of abusive cases ever get a police charge. Probably because they are too scared and that abuse will continue when they are not with any protection. This country has a lot to answer for in correcting children and women abuse.

    Breaking News............another NFL player arrested for abuse on a child.....Dwyer, Arizona Cardinals. That makes it four doesn't it, all within a week.......amazing. At least that's four children that can get some sleep without being beaten to near death. Big man in the house playing with children's lives and using them as items to take his wrath and rage on. Pitiful human behavior!
  • Center Left
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    Denton, TX
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: No way, I'm not buying that garbage of defending Peterson. He doesn't want the responsibility of being a parent. This is not his first abuse to a child. Peterson busted the head open on a previous child of his from a girl friend. So this is his second attempt of terrorizing four year old boys. What do abusers need to do to be more convincing, a death of a child from their hands? I don't get the way people defend these monsters.

    Peterson committed a crime and let's see what the courts will say. I can get all embroiled on this subject as it is heartless and cruel human behavior that gets "men", mostly, coming to Peterson's aid. Oh.....he got a little stressed out! Oh.....give him some counseling and let him try again being a parent!

    Sorry, Peterson would be glad I'm not on the jury.............he's guilty. Anybody that whips a child with a tree branch producing scarring and blood letting marks, doesn't deserve my mercy. He's guilty and I hope he goes to prison. Maybe that prison cell-buddy he makes doing time will show him how to punish people, while he's on the receiving end.

    Tonight on the news media was the National Organization of Women (NOW) president speaking on women abuse and she indicated that less than 10% of abusive cases ever get a police charge. Probably because they are too scared and that abuse will continue when they are not with any protection. This country has a lot to answer for in correcting children and women abuse.

    Breaking News............another NFL player arrested for abuse on a child.....Dwyer, Arizona Cardinals. That makes it four doesn't it, all within a week.......amazing. At least that's four children that can get some sleep without being beaten to near death. Big man in the house playing with children's lives and using them as items to take his wrath and rage on. Pitiful human behavior!
    I'm not defending Peterson. I'm also not over-exaggerating what he did. Look at it realistically. He did commit a crime. Whipping a child hard enough to create open wounds is wrong and should be punished. If he can be rehabilitated, then that is far better than locking him for an extended period of time or keeping him from seeing his child forever.
  • Center Left
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    First of all, I have to say this incident has about zero to do with human trafficking. There's no need to throw that in there at the end to try to fatten up what you're trying to get across.

    Second: Just a question, not picking particularly at anything that Peterson did. Let's say a parent raises there children in every single way you and a majority would agree best, but also when the child gets out of hand in a bad way gets a spanking (or in some cases switching). Would you consider that to be child abuse and/or torture? If so, I have to wildly disagree with you. Spanking a child for misbehavior has been around alot longer than you I'm afraid, and using a switch even longer. I myself remember having to pick out my own switch a couple times. And let me tell you, picking out my own switch was much worse that the actual swing.

    How can you be so harsh and so quick to judge this man you have never met, never spoken to, and have zero knowledge you know to be 100% factual about the event is beyond me...

    Now I'm not saying I will use this method on my children, not that I disagree with it in some circumstances, just not my cup of tea. It's much harder to do this in today's world and not be considered... Whatever the neighbors, friends, facebook, twitter, media, feels like sticking on you that day to get there daily dose of "I'm perfect, but CAN YOU BELIEVE WHAT THAT PERSON DID!?".

    Again, I am not saying Peterson was right. For one main reason, neither you or myself know the full story as to if he took it too far or not. Neither you or I know that. Open wounds is too much.

    He was quoted "Got him in nuts once I noticed. But I felt so bad, n I’m all tearing that butt up when needed! I start putting them in timeout. N save the whooping for needed memories! … Never do I go overboard! But all my kids will know, hey daddy has the biggie heart but don’t play no games when it comes to acting right."

    That sounds about right to me. A father using a method that has been around a long time. Difference is, today he is in the spotlight.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    Drawing blood by beating another is wrong, if it were an adult beating another adult it is called an assault regardless of the method used, even worse when the victim is a defenseless child, Mr. Peterson did go overboard in his haste to discipline his child and should be punished accordingly. Using the excuse of it's a culture thing is pretty lame, and does nothing towards justifiying the actions that Mr. Peterson took.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    While performing a search ("Child Abuse Laws"), I located many links with one that identifies state laws and statuettes that show disparity on laws around the country for child abuse and domestic violence. There is distinct differences on child abuse and domestic violence. If the Peterson crime was in Minnesota than it appears he is charged with "Domestic Violence". In the Domestic Violence law, it is more specific to the crime Peterson committed on a four year old child. Can he still be charged on the previous child beating where he violently struck the 4 year old in the head opening a wound large enough for the hospital to treat?

    Anyway, all can see each State's laws by going to: https://www.childwelfare.gov

    Located are sub-links providing information and state laws concerning children. The "Child Welfare Information Gateway" provides the state laws on Child Abuse and Domestic Violence separately. An inquiry asking for "Select a State" and "Topics" or you can select "All" for viewing all Child Abuse Laws and Domestic Violence for that State.