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A Tribute to the Philanthropist That Was Joan Rivers

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    Just like that, she's gone. The stunning death of Joan Rivers, who only one week ago was performing seemingly non-stop, is a sad development that will be tough to swallow for many people. There will undoubtedly be investigations into her death and I hope that individuals will be held accountable if any malfeasance was found to be done by the medical staff performing the surgery that wound up ending her life.

    Instead of dwelling on her passing, I think that it's important to shed some light on the lesser talked about things that Joan Rivers did with her life. Many celebrities contribute to causes with large sums of money. Some do it to feel better about themselves. Some do it for tax purposes. And others, like Joan Rivers, devote time and money to various causes because they are passionate about them.

    Joan Rivers was intimately involved in a variety of charities. From various AIDS organizations to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, Rivers devoted herself to helping those who need it the most. She also invested her time and money into various other causes helping out cancer patients, a multitude of food programs for the poor, and a whole lot more. She exemplified what it means to be an upstanding citizen and that is what she should be remembered for.

    I can only hope she is now resting in peace after an outstanding life. She will be missed.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Yes for Joan Rivers and other celebrities, the public is usually only aware of the "camera face" and know very little of the other things they do to make life better for others. Joan Rivers was a noted author of 11 books, at least one of which was on the NYT best sellers list. The Look to the Stars website lists 13 charities for which she was an active member and contributor.

    Look to the Stars: Joan Rivers Charity Work, Events and Causes
  • Liberal
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    Schmidt Wrote: Yes for Joan Rivers and other celebrities, the public is usually only aware of the "camera face" and know very little of the other things they do to make life better for others. Joan Rivers was a noted author of 11 books, at least one of which was on the NYT best sellers list. The Look to the Stars website lists 13 charities for which she was an active member and contributor.

    Look to the Stars: Joan Rivers Charity Work, Events and Causes
    Don't you think the two of you are laying it on a little too much? Please fellas, don't do that. It is not possible to have these feelings for someone you've never known. Stop. Some things don't need to be commented on... this is one of them
  • Center Left
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    Schmidt Wrote: Yes for Joan Rivers and other celebrities, the public is usually only aware of the "camera face" and know very little of the other things they do to make life better for others. Joan Rivers was a noted author of 11 books, at least one of which was on the NYT best sellers list. The Look to the Stars website lists 13 charities for which she was an active member and contributor.

    Look to the Stars: Joan Rivers Charity Work, Events and Causes
    Don't you think the two of you are laying it on a little too much? Please fellas, don't do that. It is not possible to have these feelings for someone you've never known. Stop. Some things don't need to be commented on... this is one of them
    It seems you are commenting on something you feel doesn't need to be commented on? So why comment on the comments that you feel shouldn't be said? I personally think it is better to comment in a progressive way than a negative way towards the people commenting in the first place.

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    My point in commenting was to point out that for many celebrities from Hollywood to the NFL football players to musicians to singers, the public persona and stereotype often is a mischaracterisation of the real person. The public mostly has little knowledge or interest in getting to know the generosity of the real person. Of course that could also apply to many police, FBI, military personnel, IRS agents, corporate employees, union workers, teachers, etc. that take their jobs seriously and professionally, but also as part of their daily home lives, volunteer in unheralded ways to make life better for their fellow citizens on this planet.

    Joan Rivers typifies that special mold of American as you learn about the hardships in her life and how she ultimately succeeded due to her resilience and determination...but never forgot her roots and gave back to those that are less fortunate. Unfortunately that label cannot be pinned on everyone.
  • Liberal
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    Llos Angeles, CA
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    Then you sir only confirm what I've always suspected....you post progressively because maybe you feel that it's appropriate. Say what's on your mind....always a middle, safe, and phony answer. Forums are for discussion and debate. a passive -aggressive position only confuses the issue because the lack of honesty in communication
  • Democrat
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    I'm sure the family and close friends of the Joan Rivers community are sad and yes I feel their pain, however, knowing how Ms. Rivers would agitate the masses with her eloquent phrases of criticism on about anything she hates or dislikes, there are many that sigh relief that she has past. I would often agree with a laugh with most anything she would contest when asked her view on issues and celebrities. She didn't hold back and was very quick with her tongue on speaking up on things. It's as if, did she have prior knowledge of the question before being asked? Was she groomed before the performance or is that really her? I acknowledge she was very good in entertaining people.

    The people that are most hurt in her passing are her plastic surgeon crew. They are really financially hurt as for any future income, unless they are in her will. That would be interesting!

    Yes, Joan Rivers will be missed and talked about for many years.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote: Then you sir only confirm what I've always suspected....you post progressively because maybe you feel that it's appropriate. Say what's on your mind....always a middle, safe, and phony answer. Forums are for discussion and debate. a passive -aggressive position only confuses the issue because the lack of honesty in communication
    LA Citizen -- Wow you are the first person to call my posts "middle, safe and phony", and that I "lack honesty in communication". If you have read many of my posts, you will have noticed that I am indeed careful in what I say...none of the emotional "shoot from the hip" BS that you get from many politicians. Issues are seldom black and white...always some shade of gray, and I try to understand those views without demeaning people...unless, of course, I am talking about some of the right wing crazies.

    I have met and worked with a lot of people in my work and travels, particularly overseas...different cultures, different religions, different languages. I would not have survived in those environments had I not taken the time to try understand them. Forty percent of my working career was spent overseas. Having lived in Libya for three years, my views of Arabs and Muslims differ from the stereotype that US media have painted of them, and accordingly my stated views in this website on the Israeli - Palestinian conflict are hardly "middle and safe"...and I'll assure you they are not phony.

    I am probably the most ardent supporter of President Obama on this website, but it's because I have taken time to read his books and study him, and study all the hot political issues of the day, trying to put myself in his shoes. What would I do if I was in his place where his true enemies and haters are members of our Congress. I have defended him while others on the left and right have knocked him. I campaigned for him, knocking on over 700 doors in 2012 to try educate those that have adopted the Fox News false narrative.

    In my travels I have noted that people's personal lives are indeed often different from their public images. That's certainly true for many politicians. I could hate John Boehner the politician, but I know having read about his personal life growing up, I would probably like John Boehner, the private citizen. The same can be said for many athletes and entertainers. So perhaps you are one that hated the Joan Rivers, the "queen of tasteless humor" for her public image. You are not alone. But if you are one of the beneficiaries of the Human Rights Campaign, or perhaps the St Francis Food Pantries and Shelters, then you should appreciate what Joan Rivers has done for you. I would like to think that many Americans will remember her for that rather than her caustic public humor.
  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:
    L.A. Citizen Wrote: Then you sir only confirm what I've always suspected....you post progressively because maybe you feel that it's appropriate. Say what's on your mind....always a middle, safe, and phony answer. Forums are for discussion and debate. a passive -aggressive position only confuses the issue because the lack of honesty in communication
    LA Citizen -- Wow you are the first person to call my posts "middle, safe and phony", and that I "lack honesty in communication". If you have read many of my posts, you will have noticed that I am indeed careful in what I say...none of the emotional "shoot from the hip" BS that you get from many politicians. Issues are seldom black and white...always some shade of gray, and I try to understand those views without demeaning people...unless, of course, I am talking about some of the right wing crazies.

    I have met and worked with a lot of people in my work and travels, particularly overseas...different cultures, different religions, different languages. I would not have survived in those environments had I not taken the time to try understand them. Forty percent of my working career was spent overseas. Having lived in Libya for three years, my views of Arabs and Muslims differ from the stereotype that US media have painted of them, and accordingly my stated views in this website on the Israeli - Palestinian conflict are hardly "middle and safe"...and I'll assure you they are not phony.

    I am probably the most ardent supporter of President Obama on this website, but it's because I have taken time to read his books and study him, and study all the hot political issues of the day, trying to put myself in his shoes. What would I do if I was in his place where his true enemies and haters are members of our Congress. I have defended him while others on the left and right have knocked him. I campaigned for him, knocking on over 700 doors in 2012 to try educate those that have adopted the Fox News false narrative.

    In my travels I have noted that people's personal lives are indeed often different from their public images. That's certainly true for many politicians. I could hate John Boehner the politician, but I know having read about his personal life growing up, I would probably like John Boehner, the private citizen. The same can be said for many athletes and entertainers. So perhaps you are one that hated the Joan Rivers, the "queen of tasteless humor" for her public image. You are not alone. But if you are one of the beneficiaries of the Human Rights Campaign, or perhaps the St Francis Food Pantries and Shelters, then you should appreciate what Joan Rivers has done for you. I would like to think that many Americans will remember her for that rather than her caustic public humor.
    Yes, "Schmidt" you did say it right; I've got a simular background as you, but sometines we differ of opinion which is healthy; sure I liked her; at least she was not a hypocrite and said what she wanted to say; she was gutsy and for her age still very lively. We'll miss her.