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Militarization of the police

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    TJ

    In no way am I implying that the cop killed her.....BUT,

    1. He has no probable cause to detain her other than to effectuate the purposes of the stop (traffic) The detention must only be for the purpose of the citation. The video shows that he had no reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed. Every other event that ocurred was an "unlawful detention"

    She does not have to comply with "unlawful orders".

    1. Shes mad (has every right to be mad)

    2. She at a loss (confused) because what she told him was correct....She can smoke, use her cell phone and basically do anything she wants because the stop was for traffic violation. She can even role her her window up and turn the music up.

    All people respond to confinement differently....but now we have a civil case. A complete breakdown of law enforcement....from the cop to the jail facility who was aware of her attempted (previous) suicide.......and to top it off,,,,, her bail was only 5000. 10% would only be 500......and nobody in her family comes to bail her out. Confinement, desperation, frustration,,,,, and yes.....mental issues...along with this complete failure from public safety did contribute to an already distressed individual.

    During intake and custody classification..... the jail needs information.. ..Are u violent?. ..are u a snitch who needs separation?. ...any prior escape attempts ?and definitely. ....mental history. In the event a person has attempted suicide in the past. (which she noted on the intake questionaire)...you will be interviewed by psychological staff for an assessment on housing location.....This didn't happen. Why?

    She's black and nobody really gave a shit. Incompetent at their jobs....incuding (once again) CORRUPTION....You know...THE NORM

    A false police report (creative writing) to justify an unlawful detention and arrest. Cops are bitches. This is the crazy part....they know they're on video and they still conduct themselves in that manner.....which is a very strong indicator that this type of policing is welcomed, protected, and applauded by city management...including the DA's office.

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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:

    TJ

    In no way am I implying that the cop killed her.....BUT,

    1. He has no probable cause to detain her other than to effectuate the purposes of the stop (traffic) The detention must only be for the purpose of the citation. The video shows that he had no reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed. Every other event that ocurred was an "unlawful detention"

    She does not have to comply with "unlawful orders".

    1. Shes mad (has every right to be mad)

    2. She at a loss (confused) because what she told him was correct....She can smoke, use her cell phone and basically do anything she wants because the stop was for traffic violation. She can even role her her window up and turn the music up.

    All people respond to confinement differently....but now we have a civil case. A complete breakdown of law enforcement....from the cop to the jail facility who was aware of her attempted (previous) suicide.......and to top it off,,,,, her bail was only 5000. 10% would only be 500......and nobody in her family comes to bail her out. Confinement, desperation, frustration,,,,, and yes.....mental issues...along with this complete failure from public safety did contribute to an already distressed individual.

    During intake and custody classification..... the jail needs information.. ..Are u violent?. ..are u a snitch who needs separation?. ...any prior escape attempts ?and definitely. ....mental history. In the event a person has attempted suicide in the past. (which she noted on the intake questionaire)...you will be interviewed by psychological staff for an assessment on housing location.....This didn't happen. Why?

    She's black and nobody really gave a shit. Incompetent at their jobs....incuding (once again) CORRUPTION....You know...THE NORM

    A false police report (creative writing) to justify an unlawful detention and arrest. Cops are bitches. This is the crazy part....they know they're on video and they still conduct themselves in that manner.....which is a very strong indicator that this type of policing is welcomed, protected, and applauded by city management...including the DA's office.

    I saw the tape and heard on how the cop screamed at her the "military" way; indeed they totally forget they are paid to "serve" the people and are not in Iraq; even there you don't have the right to behave like that.
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    Dutch Wrote:
    L.A. Citizen Wrote:

    TJ

    In no way am I implying that the cop killed her.....BUT,

    1. He has no probable cause to detain her other than to effectuate the purposes of the stop (traffic) The detention must only be for the purpose of the citation. The video shows that he had no reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed. Every other event that ocurred was an "unlawful detention"

    She does not have to comply with "unlawful orders".

    1. Shes mad (has every right to be mad)

    2. She at a loss (confused) because what she told him was correct....She can smoke, use her cell phone and basically do anything she wants because the stop was for traffic violation. She can even role her her window up and turn the music up.

    All people respond to confinement differently....but now we have a civil case. A complete breakdown of law enforcement....from the cop to the jail facility who was aware of her attempted (previous) suicide.......and to top it off,,,,, her bail was only 5000. 10% would only be 500......and nobody in her family comes to bail her out. Confinement, desperation, frustration,,,,, and yes.....mental issues...along with this complete failure from public safety did contribute to an already distressed individual.

    During intake and custody classification..... the jail needs information.. ..Are u violent?. ..are u a snitch who needs separation?. ...any prior escape attempts ?and definitely. ....mental history. In the event a person has attempted suicide in the past. (which she noted on the intake questionaire)...you will be interviewed by psychological staff for an assessment on housing location.....This didn't happen. Why?

    She's black and nobody really gave a shit. Incompetent at their jobs....incuding (once again) CORRUPTION....You know...THE NORM

    A false police report (creative writing) to justify an unlawful detention and arrest. Cops are bitches. This is the crazy part....they know they're on video and they still conduct themselves in that manner.....which is a very strong indicator that this type of policing is welcomed, protected, and applauded by city management...including the DA's office.

    I saw the tape and heard on how the cop screamed at her the "military" way; indeed they totally forget they are paid to "serve" the people and are not in Iraq; even there you don't have the right to behave like that.

    I always say this....WE DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS IN THIS COUNTRY.....we have privleges. The video serves as proof of this. Rights must be extended to you from a person in authority....albeit the court system, the police, your job etc..etc..

    There's a simple formula I use in determing if rights will be extended to you in your community

    The more apartment buildings+ the number of renters= less rights

    Home owners+ income level = more rights

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    Yes, I am not at all happy with this story. I have complained a hundred times about how cops are idiots and jerks. This women was just offered new jobs by two companies. She called her family (Happy) to talk about her new opportunities.... That is not a suicidal person. Notice the cop is on administrative leave.
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:

    1. He has no probable cause to detain her other than to effectuate the purposes of the stop (traffic) The detention must only be for the purpose of the citation. The video shows that he had no reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed. Every other event that ocurred was an "unlawful detention"

    She does not have to comply with "unlawful orders".

    This paragraph hits the nail on the head, LA.

    Our cops have such massive egos in this country that if someone hurts their feelings they need to show them who the real boss is. She committed no crime, yet he decided to threaten to taze her because she was lawfully smoking a cigarette in her car and that hurt his feelings.

    This case is one of countless examples of cops choosing to dominate and terrorize the people they are sworn to protect instead of working for them. This asshole, and so many other cops in this country who are convinced they are the law and not enforcers of it, deserve a special place reserved for them in the hell that I don't believe in.

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    Driving while black............ Guilty

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    Once again I blame right wing cost cutting for all and any problems. They actually have people worrying and feeling guilty about spending money . If adequately budgeted everything works better. Cops are doing immensely complicated jobs that can escalate into life death situations in an instant! That is a lot of pressure circling overhead.

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    When Trump visited Phoenix in September of 2017, things got a bit out of control at the end of the rally when police fired smoke grenades and other items at protesters who had gathered outside. The consensus is that the police over-reacted to the demonstrators, but the police chief maintains that they acted properly. The rally, incidentally, cost the city of Phoenix $450,000:

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2017/09/19/...

    The rally was essentially one of the first events of his reelection campaign, which seems wildly optimistic in view of the fact that he will be forcibly removed from office before the completion of his first term.

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    As described in the Washington Post, people worldwide were in shock when protesters in Ferguson, MO were greeted with police in armored vehicles, (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/30/does-military-equipment-lead-police-officers-to-be-more-violent-we-did-the-research/?utm_term=.20f8b377a8bc). The crisis in Ferguson had both participants, police officers and protesters, on edge. Militarization of police officers only escalates a situation. Police officers hold a position to address civil situations and those that the military would not handle because it is not their job. To militarize police offers would just give them the same position as the military, obviously. If we put police officers on the same pedestal as the military, we would no longer have a medium for simple civil offenses. America and other countries have different branches of enforcement for a reason. With militarized police, every minor situation could severely escalate unnecessarily. I am not the only person who agrees that minor situations will escalate. The ACLU (https://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police-practices/police-militarization) says the same. When law enforcement has the opportunity to use military equipment, they may become more violent with weapons, vehicles and tools. An example of an escalated situation would be a group of protesters being civilized and chanting for a cause being interrupted by highly militarized team of police officers. From the protesters point of view, they are being attacked and become afraid of what the police officers will do.

    As citizens, we must look at the police officers point of view how do they feel being addressed by a mass crowd of individuals with unknown intentions. Surly, both parties are afraid of what the other might do. However, what sense would it make to be armored with tanks to address plain civilians. With this type of encounter, tempers rise within the protesters because they may feel attacked. By standers can easily see how a simple protest can escalate into a bloody murder scene. It is truly unnecessary for police officers to try to build their power by using militarized equipment. They are hired and go through training for civil offences that usually can be settled with little to no force. The military are trained to fight and kill in times of war or their enemies. Police officers are supposed to serve us and keep us in safety, instead we feel as though they are our enemy. Police officers this year, its only February, have killed 146 people using force. Police officers should not have an advantage of using military equipment against those, citizens, who do not have the same tools. The force police officers use can show that they are being a bully and simply overpowering those around them unfairly. When you look at the details of police killings, it boils down to a civil defense that increased into a brutal situation because police officers involved their violent emotions and escalated the situation. The Obama administration began passing rules that limited the access to military equipment by police officers, (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/05/18/obama-police-military-equipment-sales-new-jersey/27521793/). The decision to pass a bill is a step forward to minimize police brutality. It is unfortunate that the federal government has to put matters in their own hands in order to defuse the violence between police officers and citizens. Police officers should not seem superior and more powerful when they are in the position and support and serve their country, not abuse and misuse their power.