TJ Wrote: Dutch,
Great post ! I saw it on CNN. It was immediately speculated about whether or not a Russian missile was fired to bring down this aircraft. Many dead. I'm guessing that Russians are already on the scene manipulating evidence (or removing and eliminating evidence) to hide any involvement. Hopefully more details will follow soon. Time to sell stock in Malaysian Airlines ?
Schmidt Wrote: Kyvi Post: SBU intercepts phone conversations of separatists admitting downing a civilian plane (FULL TRANSCRIPT; VIDEO)
Go to this link and read the interesting transcript of intercepted phone conversations implicating the Russian-backed Cossack militants in the shooting down of the Malaysian airliner.
Schmidt Wrote: Dutch -- You are certainly right about letting the experts access to the crash site. The head of the NTSB says he is not going to send in his team unless they can assure the safety of the investigators. I don't know that Russia or anyone else can make that guarantee. It sounds like this is a bunch of lawless out of control bands of Russian and Ukrainian militias that don't answer to anyone...just multiple factions of separatists. Kind of reminds me of the militias in Nevada supporting Cliven Bundy. Or maybe the Syrian situation where the conflict attracts all the worst kind of militants.
I think the intercepted conversations sound legitimate and point the finger at the Cossacks, native to both Ukraine and Russia. I've read where the Cossacks kind of act independently of both Russia and Ukraine...not unlike perhaps the Kurds in Iraq. Tribalism trumps nationalism.
Also, listening to some of the self proclaimed "experts" on TV, they say the USA spy satellites with their extensive coverage of this hot spot, should have picked up where the missile was fired from, unless as you suggest it wasn't a missile. However, the US government and the Ukrainians seem pretty certain of that. Those conversations were released so quickly that I don't think anyone could have concocted them in such a short time.
Furthermore, Russia is not denying that a missile hit the plane.