johnnycee Wrote: Sen. Reid has on numerous occasions told the House that when their Bill regarding immigration reform comes over for a vote ,he will not put it up for vote unless there is no language about securing the borders first. You look it up, you are the who disbelieves anyone who has any thing critical to say about this Administration and try to be honest with yourself and look at things with a critical eye instead of defending the undefensible.
johnnycee Wrote: I agree with the Democrats on needing immigration reform, only I think it begins with securing the borders,
johnnycee Wrote: I always felt that there should be a health care reform , just not this monstrosity called the Affordable Care Act,
johnnycee Wrote: it's about this mess on our southern borders that this Administration chose to ignore and in some circles there are some who feel that his Administration has had a hand in it to further the agenda of immigration reform. Do we send them back or do we bill the respective Countries via AID dollars for the cost of housing, feeding and the health care that so many seem to need, or do you have a better cost effective and humane way of dealing with this problem
TJ Wrote: Party Hack ? Find a mirror........ You republicans make me sick. The major complaint against congress is that they are stealing a wage (at tax payers expense) while not doing a damn thing to earn it. Partisan only politics is ignorant - as are the voters that continue to elect them. Blaming the president for the border issue is very selective thinking. I saw on the news tonight that approx. 1,000 women and children a day are being apprehended in Texas. Some are children traveling with a group but not accompanied by a parent or any other relative. Why are we not blaming Rick Perry for not controlling his state. They are mostly from Central America. Most take 10 - 14 days before arriving at the Rio Grande. I do think it's crazy to not put 4 or 5,000 soldiers across the southern border to stop this flood of persons that we can't afford to accept. Drones to scout the area would be a wise use of time and expense as well. Otherwise we should just build a few pedestrian bridges across to make it easier. Hell, why are we forcing them to swim (sarcasm).
Schmidt Wrote: Just to be clear. The Republican plan for immigration reform consists of only three words. Secure the Border! Full stop. That's all. Nothing more. Nada más.
So what does "Secure the border" really mean in terms of numbers or effectiveness. No one knows or cares. If someone can prove that the border is 90 percent secure, they'll demand more...if it's 95 percent, they demand more...if it's 100 percent they'll dismiss the number. The border is not secure! As this ProPublica article shows, we keep throwing money at the problem, but it's never enough.
ProPublica, April 26, 2013: Billions Proposed for New Border Security. Where Would the Money Go?
"Federal spending on border security is at an all-time high—and it would get even higher under the Gang of Eight’s new plan. The Senate immigration proposal, released last week, would allocate $4.5 billion in the next five years to tighten control of U.S. borders.
"The U.S. spent nearly $18 billion dollars on immigration enforcement agencies last fiscal year, more than all other law enforcement agencies combined."
So let's get this straight. The Senate has passed a bill for comprehensive immigration reform, but Boehner's House Republicans have blocked it. It includes an additional $4.8 billion to "secure the border" but the House will not even pass a piece meal bill with that part. That's because Republicans do not want immigration reform in any form...nothing...nada.
And as long as they can keep shouting, "Secure the border" they never have to take any action on anything. Do nothing. Nada. I'm not doing anything. No estoy haciendo nada!
And that my friends is the real Republican Immigration Reform plan...No estoy haciendo nada!
Because by doing a true immigration reform bill with a pass to citizenship, those immigrants might one day vote Democratic. That's a no-no.
And Dutch, only one side is playing politics with this issue.