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the Dark Ages

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  • Center Left Democrat
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    Flagstaff, AZ
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    The Dark Ages is not the type of topic that you'd expect to find on a website that is devoted to political discussions, but it's actually more relevant than you might think. The term popped into my head this morning when I was doing some research on topics related to Muslims, and the link below will provide more background information:

    http://tohell-andback.blogspot.com/2009/06/book-of-signs.html

    Most people aren't aware of the fact that the 4 oldest degree granting universities in the world are located in Muslim countries. The oldest one, in Iran, dates back to 489 A.D.. For an awful lot of years, the Muslim society was the most advanced in the world, and you wouldn't have had your morning coffee this morning if it weren't for some Muslim goatherds, who discovered coffee in the 9th Century.

    http://tohell-andback.blogspot.com/2009/03/muslims-and-dancing-goats.html

    The Christians of the world, during the same time period that Muslim culture was flourishing, went through a time period called "The Dark Ages":, which lasted for roughly 1000 years. Wikipedia defines the European Dark Ages as "a period of intellectual darkness and economic regression", which
    is a dead-on description of the Republican Party today, especially its Tea Party wing.

    The folks that think that the theory of evolution is an attack on their faith, that believe the world was "was created in six days as we know them today", that believe that the earth is less than 10,000 years old, and who believe that global warming is a hoax, would seem to fit the description of "intellectual darkness".

    You probably aren't familiar with the Gini coefficient, but it's a measure of income inequality, and it can be measured by state. Although you're free to read the numbers in the link below, it's much more telling to simply look at the map. The states that have the highest level of income inequality are, by and large, all "red states". You can also view the Gini coefficient by country, which will tell you that the United States is pretty far down on the list.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_Gini_coefficient
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    Arizona -- Good post. Very few people are aware of the Golden Age of Islam and their contributions to the world. It covered the period roughly from mid-7th century to the mid-13th century.

    Islamic Golden Age

    "During this period, artists, engineers, scholars, poets, philosophers, geographers and traders in the Islamic world contributed to agriculture, the arts, economics, industry, law, literature,navigation, philosophy, sciences, sociology, and technology, both by preserving earlier traditions and by adding inventions and innovations of their own. Also at that time the Muslim world became a major intellectual centre for science, philosophy, medicine and education. In Baghdad they established the “House of Wisdom“, where scholars, both Muslim and non-Muslim, sought to gather and translate the world’s knowledge into Arabic in the Translation Movement. Many classic works of antiquity that would otherwise have been forgotten were translated into Arabic and later in turn translated into Turkish, Sindhi, Persian, Hebrew and Latin.

    Knowledge was synthesized from works originating in ancient Mesopotamia, Ancient Rome, China, India, Persia, Ancient Egypt, North Africa, Ancient Greece and Byzantine civilizations. Rival Muslim dynasties such as the Fatimids of Egypt and the Umayyads of al-Andalus were also major intellectual centres with cities such as Cairo and Córdoba rivaling Baghdad. The Islamic empire was the first “truly universal civilization,” which brought together for the first time “peoples as diverse as the Chinese, the Indians, the people of the Middle East and North Africa, black Africans, and white Europeans."

    The west has much to thank Arabs and Muslims for...including your morning cup of Joe. I too own a Quran...compliments of Muammar Gaddafi when my wife and I lived in Libya during the early 70s. I haven't looked at it in a long time though.

    And yes that period also conforms with the "Dark Ages"...a period that indeed some in this country could take our country back to.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Schmidt Wrote: Arizona -- Good post. Very few people are aware of the Golden Age of Islam and their contributions to the world. It covered the period roughly from mid-7th century to the mid-13th century.

    Islamic Golden Age

    "During this period, artists, engineers, scholars, poets, philosophers, geographers and traders in the Islamic world contributed to agriculture, the arts, economics, industry, law, literature,navigation, philosophy, sciences, sociology, and technology, both by preserving earlier traditions and by adding inventions and innovations of their own. Also at that time the Muslim world became a major intellectual centre for science, philosophy, medicine and education. In Baghdad they established the “House of Wisdom“, where scholars, both Muslim and non-Muslim, sought to gather and translate the world’s knowledge into Arabic in the Translation Movement. Many classic works of antiquity that would otherwise have been forgotten were translated into Arabic and later in turn translated into Turkish, Sindhi, Persian, Hebrew and Latin.

    Knowledge was synthesized from works originating in ancient Mesopotamia, Ancient Rome, China, India, Persia, Ancient Egypt, North Africa, Ancient Greece and Byzantine civilizations. Rival Muslim dynasties such as the Fatimids of Egypt and the Umayyads of al-Andalus were also major intellectual centres with cities such as Cairo and Córdoba rivaling Baghdad. The Islamic empire was the first “truly universal civilization,” which brought together for the first time “peoples as diverse as the Chinese, the Indians, the people of the Middle East and North Africa, black Africans, and white Europeans."

    The west has much to thank Arabs and Muslims for...including your morning cup of Joe. I too own a Quran...compliments of Muammar Gaddafi when my wife and I lived in Libya during the early 70s. I haven't looked at it in a long time though.

    And yes that period also conforms with the "Dark Ages"...a period that indeed some in this country could take our country back to.
    Compliments to both Arizona and Schmidt; few people here have any idea about true world history and the "why". The only thing amazes me is that in Washington this information is likely lacking; looking at their continuous betting on the wrong horse, especially in the Middle East.