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  • Independent
    Montevallo, AL
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    I encourage those relevant members of the House to vote for Rep. Labrador as the House Majority Leader. It is my understanding Rep. McCarthy is pro-amnesty.
  • Center Left Democrat
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    Flagstaff, AZ
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    Sorry, Ms. Raybon.

    Kevin McCarthy JUST got elected House majority leader.

    His opinion on immigration reform is a bit more complicated, as indicated in the quote below:

    Immigration views could be problematic: Like Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Virginia, the outgoing House majority leader, McCarthy has a nuanced position on immigration that could lead to some showdowns with both conservatives and pro-immigration reform advocates. Businesses in his district depend heavily on immigrant labor to work the fertile farmland. His district is also 35% Hispanic, and pro-immigration organizations have vowed to ramp up the pressure on McCarthy to address reform.

    Here's a few more facts about him:

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/19/politics/kevin-mccarthy-5-things/
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    It's way to simplistic to say someone is pro amnesty or anti-amnesty, most of the GOP proposals that I have read always contained an increased border security clause in any Immigration Reform package, without that they won't support any reform, that does not mean that they are pro amnesty nor does it mean that they anti-amnesty, it shows a level headed approach to a very complex issue.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    johnnycee Wrote: It's way to simplistic to say someone is pro amnesty or anti-amnesty, most of the GOP proposals that I have read always contained an increased border security clause in any Immigration Reform package, without that they won't support any reform, that does not mean that they are pro amnesty nor does it mean that they anti-amnesty, it shows a level headed approach to a very complex issue.
    How is saying "it's my way or the highway" level headed? The Republicans have blocked immigration reform at every single opportunity and keep changing their excuses as to why they haven't acted. The Senate acted on a bipartisan approach that basically militarized our southern border more than it already is by dramatically increasing your beloved border security, and also did something to bring millions of individuals out of the shadows. The House keeps saying they won't do anything because they don't trust our President. How in the world can we ever get anything done if that is always their excuse? And how in the world can you justify that and say they are acting in a level headed way?

    To say that we need to spend more money on border security shows that you have no grasp of the current realities and stick to outdated talking points the right spews out on a consistent basis. We have a net immigration from Mexico of ZERO. It has been that way since 2012 and we are actually beginning to see a new phenomena of reverse immigration because our country has so many xenophobic people that are scared of people who don't look like them.

    What's funny is that every single locality who institutes some strict anti-immigration law is seeing their prices sky rocket on a host of things because farmers can't find people to work their fields, restaurants can't find people to wash their dishes, hotels can't find people to clean their rooms, and a host of other businesses that rely heavily on immigrant labor can't find people to do the jobs that a typical American doesn't want to do. Don't believe me? Ask Alabama how their failed attempt at instituting a strict anti immigrant law went last year.

    Why don't I ever hear Republicans talk about militarizing our northern border? It's three times as long and we have plenty of people sneaking into America each and every day from it. I believe that no one talks about our northern border because we don't mind Canadians coming into America, but those pesky Latino's are just stealing all of our jobs here and we need to do something about it.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    it's level headed to close the leak before reforming the process, having an open border only creates more chaos.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    Should we militarize our northern border as well? Or do we want to just keep the Latino's out? And we have already spent billions of dollars on our nations credit card to militarize our southern border. What exactly do you propose we do that we haven't already done? Do you just refuse to accept that no one is coming across our southern border anymore?
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    Immigration reform is all encompassing, it is not described as just a Latino immigration reform, granted that right now our southern borders are being over whelmed mostly by Latino's from countries other than Mexico, should we militarize our northern borders ,you seem to think as if our southern borders are efficient in protecting the Nation from illegals, according to recent news coverage, the Border Patrol is fast now becoming a social agency for illegal children and sometimes their families, and I suppose there is some illegal entry at our northern border but nothing on the scale as what is happening at the southern border, so ,yes I believe in securing the borders until some sort of reform is worked out. And that is being level headed.
  • Independent
    Montevallo, AL
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    that guy in Arizona Wrote: Sorry, Ms. Raybon.

    Kevin McCarthy JUST got elected House majority leader.

    His opinion on immigration reform is a bit more complicated, as indicated in the quote below:

    Immigration views could be problematic: Like Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Virginia, the outgoing House majority leader, McCarthy has a nuanced position on immigration that could lead to some showdowns with both conservatives and pro-immigration reform advocates. Businesses in his district depend heavily on immigrant labor to work the fertile farmland. His district is also 35% Hispanic, and pro-immigration organizations have vowed to ramp up the pressure on McCarthy to address reform.

    Here's a few more facts about him:

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/19/politics/kevin-mccarthy-5-things/
    First: That's "Mrs.," not "Ms."... I am very proudly married.

    Second: I did get the memo that Rep. McCarthy was elected majority leader. I appreciate the condolence.

    Third: I'm sure that Rep. McCarthy is concerned with the interests of his constituent base, as should all our elected representatives be. I thank you for the information you provided regarding his opinion on immigration reform. Because he is now in a position of power in the House of Representatives, his opinion on immigration reform will undoubtedly influence future law-making in that matter.

    Fourth: I am concerned, like I hope all American citizens are, about securing our borders. I think that this is imperative to a OUR national interests and defense. Therefore, I want the House Majority Leader, in his position of influence, to be concerned FIRST with securing our borders. Only then can we address the complexities of immigration reform. I advocated for the election of Rep. Labrador for the post of Majority Leader because I KNOW he thinks the borders should be secured before attempting immigration reform. Rep. McCarthy, as outlined in the information you provided, has a vested interest in amnesty for illegal aliens. I am concerned that he would push for amnesty before securing the borders.
  • Independent
    Montevallo, AL
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    johnnycee Wrote: It's way to simplistic to say someone is pro amnesty or anti-amnesty, most of the GOP proposals that I have read always contained an increased border security clause in any Immigration Reform package, without that they won't support any reform, that does not mean that they are pro amnesty nor does it mean that they anti-amnesty, it shows a level headed approach to a very complex issue.
    I agree.
  • Independent
    Montevallo, AL
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    johnnycee Wrote: it's level headed to close the leak before reforming the process, having an open border only creates more chaos.
    I agree.
  • Independent
    Montevallo, AL
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    johnnycee Wrote: Immigration reform is all encompassing, it is not described as just a Latino immigration reform, granted that right now our southern borders are being over whelmed mostly by Latino's from countries other than Mexico, should we militarize our northern borders ,you seem to think as if our southern borders are efficient in protecting the Nation from illegals, according to recent news coverage, the Border Patrol is fast now becoming a social agency for illegal children and sometimes their families, and I suppose there is some illegal entry at our northern border but nothing on the scale as what is happening at the southern border, so ,yes I believe in securing the borders until some sort of reform is worked out. And that is being level headed.
    I agree!
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    johnnycee Wrote: I suppose there is some illegal entry at our northern border but nothing on the scale as what is happening at the southern border, so ,yes I believe in securing the borders until some sort of reform is worked out. And that is being level headed.
    Provide solid numbers backing up your claims. I provided a link showing that immigration from our southern border is at zero or negative. You keep saying they are flooding across our southern border, but provide absolutely zero evidence backing this claim up. That's why I believe people like you just use republican talking points and don't actually take the time to think outside of those set points.

    What has happened to us as a country that we are so scared of people who don't look like us? I think it's very sad that we have so many xenophobic people in this country who are driving this debate. More compassionate people need to stand up and fight back. What does the person who you worship in church have to say about all of this xenophobia? Would he be proud of the type of people so many of his worshipers have become?
  • Independent
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: It's way to simplistic to say someone is pro amnesty or anti-amnesty, most of the GOP proposals that I have read always contained an increased border security clause in any Immigration Reform package, without that they won't support any reform, that does not mean that they are pro amnesty nor does it mean that they anti-amnesty, it shows a level headed approach to a very complex issue.
    How is saying "it's my way or the highway" level headed? The Republicans have blocked immigration reform at every single opportunity and keep changing their excuses as to why they haven't acted. The Senate acted on a bipartisan approach that basically militarized our southern border more than it already is by dramatically increasing your beloved border security, and also did something to bring millions of individuals out of the shadows. The House keeps saying they won't do anything because they don't trust our President. How in the world can we ever get anything done if that is always their excuse? And how in the world can you justify that and say they are acting in a level headed way?

    To say that we need to spend more money on border security shows that you have no grasp of the current realities and stick to outdated talking points the right spews out on a consistent basis. We have a net immigration from Mexico of ZERO. It has been that way since 2012 and we are actually beginning to see a new phenomena of reverse immigration because our country has so many xenophobic people that are scared of people who don't look like them.

    What's funny is that every single locality who institutes some strict anti-immigration law is seeing their prices sky rocket on a host of things because farmers can't find people to work their fields, restaurants can't find people to wash their dishes, hotels can't find people to clean their rooms, and a host of other businesses that rely heavily on immigrant labor can't find people to do the jobs that a typical American doesn't want to do. Don't believe me? Ask Alabama how their failed attempt at instituting a strict anti immigrant law went last year.

    Why don't I ever hear Republicans talk about militarizing our northern border? It's three times as long and we have plenty of people sneaking into America each and every day from it. I believe that no one talks about our northern border because we don't mind Canadians coming into America, but those pesky Latino's are just stealing all of our jobs here and we need to do something about it.
    I'm in Alabama, you're in Oregon. We both live in the United States, but you and I have a very different take on the illegal immigrant situation. The flood of illegal immigrants at our unchecked borders now and in the recent past is a threat to the prosperity of my state. I think this is true for the entire United States.

    My state's leaders are actively trying their best, in spite of the federal government, to put Alabamian Americans back to work in this abysmal economy. They are doing everything they can to attract/promote industries and more job opportunities in Alabama. Because of the federal government's overreach and the detrimental policies of this federal administration, it is an uphill battle!

    I look around and see people/families who have lost or are losing their jobs and homes. Many responsible people are working 2 or more jobs, whatever and wherever they can get them, just to stay afloat. Others are just giving up trying to find work, taking easily-gotten government handouts (due to our federal administration's corrupt and broken policies), which places even more burden on the working taxpayers. Unfortunately, we also have our share of citizens who have become welfare-dependent. And we have more people trying to supplement their incomes through illegal activities.

    The illegals immigrants who are here and working are being paid low wages, usually in cash, paying no taxes. They are taking advantage of the government entitlement programs, such as Medicaid, EBT,and WIC, to which they have not contributed in taxes. The illegal immigrant children are enrolled in our educational systems funded by taxpayers. Some are involved in illegal activities like selling illegal drugs, theft, burglary, and murder, thus involving judicial and law enforcement systems that are taxpayer-funded. (We do still have sales taxes, so we do get some revenue that way.)

    The added burdens caused by the lack of jobs, fraud/abuse of entitlement programs, and increased crime, is crushing American taxpayers. Our federal administration's policies are not stimulating the growth of job opportunities for any of us, legal or illegal. We have 20 million Americans taxpayers out of work. Until we close and secure the borders, all of these problems will only worsen, especially under our current federal administration. Not enforcing our laws regarding the borders creates chaos, as we are seeing right now in our southern border states. It won't be long before this chaos extends to Alabama and Oregon, as well as the rest of the U.S.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Mrs. Lynn Raybon Wrote: My state's leaders are actively trying their best, in spite of the federal government, to put Alabamian Americans back to work in this abysmal economy. They are doing everything they can to attract/promote industries and more job opportunities in Alabama. Because of the federal government's overreach and the detrimental policies of this federal administration, it is an uphill battle!
    Are you referring to your state leaders who passed the harshest and most draconian immigration law this nation has ever seen? A law that sanctioned racial profiling and discrimination against a minority? A law so crazy that boycotts and unrelenting negative coverage forced your legislatures to do a full on retreat? Your state became Exhibit A on how NOT to do an immigration law. Congratulations.

    Mrs. Lynn Raybon Wrote: I look around and see people/families who have lost or are losing their jobs and homes. Many responsible people are working 2 or more jobs, whatever and wherever they can get them, just to stay afloat. Others are just giving up trying to find work, taking easily-gotten government handouts (due to our federal administration's corrupt and broken policies), which places even more burden on the working taxpayers. Unfortunately, we also have our share of citizens who have become welfare-dependent. And we have more people trying to supplement their incomes through illegal activities.

    The illegals immigrants who are here and working are being paid low wages, usually in cash, paying no taxes. They are taking advantage of the government entitlement programs, such as Medicaid, EBT,and WIC, to which they have not contributed in taxes. The illegal immigrant children are enrolled in our educational systems funded by taxpayers. Some are involved in illegal activities like selling illegal drugs, theft, burglary, and murder, thus involving judicial and law enforcement systems that are taxpayer-funded. (We do still have sales taxes, so we do get some revenue that way.)
    You are conflating two issues here: poverty and immigration. Your states failed attempt to enact their immigration policy laid this out on the table for everyone to see. It is not the illegal immigrants fault that people in your state didn't want to do the work they were doing. It's your states fault.

    Another thing we must address is your incorrect assumption that undocumented immigrants receive Medicaid. That is simply not true. Medicaid is a federal program that provides health insurance to the poor and mentally ill. When an undocumented immigrant goes to a hospital due to an emergency they will receive care that is paid for under a Federal program called Limited Services Available to Certain Aliens (§ 440.255). This was passed during the Presidency of every conservatives hero, Ronald Reagan.

    Your Ad hominem attack accusing illegal immigrants of being drug dealers, thieves, burglars, and murderers shows your real motives. White, black, Asian, and every other race do every single one of these things. To suggest that a few bad apples is reflective of the overall immigrant population proves that you will believe what you will believe without actually taking the time to break down crime and other statistics to back up your point with any concrete facts.

    Mrs. Lynn Raybon Wrote: The added burdens caused by the lack of jobs, fraud/abuse of entitlement programs, and increased crime, is crushing American taxpayers. Our federal administration's policies are not stimulating the growth of job opportunities for any of us, legal or illegal. We have 20 million Americans taxpayers out of work. Until we close and secure the borders, all of these problems will only worsen, especially under our current federal administration. Not enforcing our laws regarding the borders creates chaos, as we are seeing right now in our southern border states. It won't be long before this chaos extends to Alabama and Oregon, as well as the rest of the U.S.
    Crime is at an all time low in this country. Facts don't lie.

    Your 20 million stat is more than 10 million over the actual number of 9.8 million.

    Are you actually suggesting that we close our border? Do you have any understanding of what that would mean for our economy? We actually might see that 20 million number you pulled out of a hat.

    You may not like facts, but that's what I tend to deal with. What chaos are you referring to in the southern states? Stop giving me generalities and provide some actual facts to back your accusations up.
  • Independent
    Montevallo, AL
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    Thank you. At least we tried to address the problem in Alabama. We try to work within a balanced budget and follow the rule of law.

    I do like to make informed decisions based on facts. Thank you for sharing some with me.