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  • Democrat
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    A good article on Politico.Com examines the need in America to return to the concepts of molding character in our youth. America has went away from providing basic culture improving our country with people serving each other and aiding the unfortunate with Samaritan acts of help. People seem so caught up in blaming each other irresponsibly and creating a false sense of insecurity in our nation. The thread on calling each other names is just a example of the web we have spun against our humanity. More people see no service in helping others and lack the energy or desire to serve.

    To serve one another, does not mean only, Military", which is most likely where some on this hub appear to have some sick enjoyment at ridiculing those that do serve and have served in our country's Armed Forces. No, serving means servitude in many organizations starting with Young Americans, Boy Scouts, Church Youth, Candy Stripers in Hospitals, many Church Missions around the world and in America, Peace Corp, AmeriCorp, Congressional Aids and I'm sure you can name many others. There appears to be less importance on the character building of our youth leading to responsible adulthood. We are growing more misfits in this nation unable to cope with life's tragedy, and learning to survive off other's misfortune. It's animalistic we are evolving back to while we should be improving as a journey to humanity.

    I encourage to read the editorial in Political.com, which you may have to search on their library listing for, "Youth Serving America". The article is titled, "Securing the American Character".

    There's more to life than trusting your way of life is the only way. Most people that believe that model are selfish and greedy without care of molding youth for a promise in maintaining humanity. I read where many of you posting as anti-military, that's fine, but let the youth decide for themselves, because you definitely do not have a right mind to criticize those serving in the Armed Forces. Let our youth and our liberty and freedom to change the problems our country has had in it's past. There are so many people who believe they have the answers for government, which most are wrong and can be compared to just as many people say they have the answers to God's plan. As it is written in scripture, there are many who will profess the end times and they are the "Coming" of God's message, but they will be wrong. So, to all who think they have a message for the world, there's a good chance your wrong on government, humanity, economics, science, life and religion. You may take your belief to your grave, but there will always be someone you defiled with your incredibly irresponsible lack of serving humanity.
  • Independent
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: A good article on Politico.Com examines the need in America to return to the concepts of molding character in our youth. America has went away from providing basic culture improving our country with people serving each other and aiding the unfortunate with Samaritan acts of help. People seem so caught up in blaming each other irresponsibly and creating a false sense of insecurity in our nation. The thread on calling each other names is just a example of the web we have spun against our humanity. More people see no service in helping others and lack the energy or desire to serve.

    To serve one another, does not mean only, Military", which is most likely where some on this hub appear to have some sick enjoyment at ridiculing those that do serve and have served in our country's Armed Forces. No, serving means servitude in many organizations starting with Young Americans, Boy Scouts, Church Youth, Candy Stripers in Hospitals, many Church Missions around the world and in America, Peace Corp, AmeriCorp, Congressional Aids and I'm sure you can name many others. There appears to be less importance on the character building of our youth leading to responsible adulthood. We are growing more misfits in this nation unable to cope with life's tragedy, and learning to survive off other's misfortune. It's animalistic we are evolving back to while we should be improving as a journey to humanity.

    I encourage to read the editorial in Political.com, which you may have to search on their library listing for, "Youth Serving America". The article is titled, "Securing the American Character".

    There's more to life than trusting your way of life is the only way. Most people that believe that model are selfish and greedy without care of molding youth for a promise in maintaining humanity. I read where many of you posting as anti-military, that's fine, but let the youth decide for themselves, because you definitely do not have a right mind to criticize those serving in the Armed Forces. Let our youth and our liberty and freedom to change the problems our country has had in it's past. There are so many people who believe they have the answers for government, which most are wrong and can be compared to just as many people say they have the answers to God's plan. As it is written in scripture, there are many who will profess the end times and they are the "Coming" of God's message, but they will be wrong. So, to all who think they have a message for the world, there's a good chance your wrong on government, humanity, economics, science, life and religion. You may take your belief to your grave, but there will always be someone you defiled with your incredibly irresponsible lack of serving humanity.


    Statements like "Securing the American Character" are weird; what is the American Character in the first place? Ask any Mexican fruit plucker or someone in Idaho growing potato's or an immigrant from Poland; I guess you will get all different answers. Sorry this is a huge melting pot, which means you cannot force or drill people here to think just like you.
    Also you mention mostly "religious" groups to serve our "youth"; especially you must be confused about Church Missions around the world; I guess that does little to form our youth by just handing out bibles. Our doctor does the right thing and goes to Africa and operates on patients for free without bibles. I think that is better than preaching.
    Pls advise what you mean with ......... "coming of God's message etc".... will "it" e-mail you? What has that to do with educating our youth?
    Also "youth" serving America? I guess they have to go to school first, learn a job to get independant of their parents. Sure they then can select whatever they want to do; not neccesarely all join the police, firebrigade, or the armed forces. So at least 80% will find civil jobs if we don't start new wars. So if you want a "communistic" country like North Vietnam, sure than 80% will "serve" America. Shaking my old head again.
  • Democrat
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    I went on a dental mission trip four years ago to one of poorest areas in Jamaica. Although most knew we were all Christian, they came from hundreds of miles around the island needing free and many requiring emergency care. I supplied the engineering to keep power going for the doctors and dentists. My wife helped run the pharmacy. I also have a good engineering friend that goes regularly to Columbia, Guatemala, and other parts of South America because his wife offers free oral surgery where needed. He does the same as I do on these trips keeping the power and we also fix things around the clinic. One of the kindest things to do for humanity is giving back what you are skilled at promoting good cheer and happiness to a poor and sick part of the world. So many people sit back in there lazy-boy chair watching TV and vegetating wasting talents they could be serving other people. Than there are those who sit behind a computer screen ridiculing those that provide servitude to millions around the world. Those are the people who are a waste to humanity and ignorant in helping others.

    Yes, many of us do give Bibles, but we also give lots of literature even building libraries, such as my church donating time and service to an area in Vietnam. We bricked in with mortar and block building a location for a library. We sent ship containers full of books for children and adults to promote their education to becoming successful in whatever endeavor they choose. Bibles are just part of the mission and many times we are asked for them by those we serve. There is a global thirst for God's Word around the world as is requests for serving their needs.

    So quit living a life wasting away and move out into the world helping others. You can even help with the Red Cross, a class act around the world and in America. After a disaster from a hurricane in the Gulf near Lake Charles, LA., my wife and I and many of our friends loaded up our trade tools and power equipment with cash in hand, emergency equipment and water, we set out for weeks long mission resurrecting homes and peoples lives. Other class act are UMCOR, Catholic Charities and Homes for Humanity. There are several inner city service groups that help children and adults. There is no shortage of people needing help, however, it is disturbing there is a shortage of people willing to step out of there comfort zone and help other people. It's moving and emotional to see first hand and people's reaction to other people coming to their aid. You can help and it is much better than writing garbage on this Hub ridiculing others that promote improving life.

    After seeing much of the world while serving in the Armed Forces, my wife and I are eager often to help others. When we do travel to some of those places, we see where crooks and thieves prey on those we are helping. Water and food is expensive and even a box of nails can be draw three times the price what is normal. Than there are those who sit back here in this country and blame others for their misfortunes and those that are helping, it's cruel and just plain ignorant of humanity. So, write your trash and ridicule us, we don't break that easy, we and I have seen worse.
  • Center Left
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    What do you mean "even though they knew we were Christian?" Jamaica's Christian population is around 70%. That is just slightly lower than the U.S. I don't think there is a single country in North or South America that has a Christian population below 65%. I have not checked them all, but of the ones that I have checks, Canada is the lowest at about 65% and it is steadily dropping.

    Volunteering to help in America and around the world is great thing to do. It should be encouraged. But by no means should we pressure children or anyone else to do so. Nor should we look down upon them if they choose not to do it.

    Like Dutch said, "character" is too subjective to define to any sort of degree. Same with morality. Laws should be based on protecting the rights of people. And education should be a combination of knowledge on how the world works, cultural arts/humanities, and critical thinking/problem solving skills so future problems can be handled effectively.
  • Democrat
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    ..........and the poor and undeserved get no respect as being part of humanity. To serve one another is a privilege and highly respected in a cultural diverse population providing servitude to all. Mankind is now seeing less interest in helping one another, which is what the Politico.Com article is about. Even in this hub of discussion on a variety of issues, there is clear evidence of many not having a care for providing servitude and helping one another. The crossover points of these issues plague humanity with not caring for humanity. I have had the opportunity to provide issues on prostitution, human trafficking, gun control, child slavery, and now I see where all these issues point to one clear definition that most of the responses are only about ridicule and championing some selfish idea that people do not count. The thread on name calling was perfect. It added just the right spice of defining the responses on this Hub. The rules of the Hub are ignored and many threaten with abusive chatter and poisoning the issue with blaming our Armed Forces, Government, immigrants, and most all of society. There is no objective to provide answers, just garbage chatter and attacking the Hub responders. It's like sharks in a feeding frenzy attacking one another. I see where many of you enjoy it way too much.

    So, yes I am disturbed over the intent of this Hub in posting and venting our anger at many different issues. I see it serves one purpose and that is to keep the media junkies informed of the trigger impulses for what ticks us off. This is a useless group activity. I would rather be part of the NOMADS (Traveling UMC Servants helping America). The NOMADS is another class act of people serving one another. If you want to make a difference in our country and our world, start serving one another. Just open your eyes and ears to the millions of jobs to volunteer giving aid and comfort to those that need it. I see that more organized groups like "Grandmothers Against Guns" and groups organized to handle lost children in Human Trafficking are emerging. How many of you canvass your neighborhoods with good news, helping in the community or creating movements to improve humanity? I enjoy working in the Boy Scouts and there are three merit badges that are required for Eagle. Citizenship of the Community, Citizenship of the Nation, and Citizenship of the World, all three inform the Scout of his civic duty to serve people. Most likely, many of the responders have never experienced helping people and learned Citizenship, because if you had, you would be less responsive characterizing a poor attitude and desire to blame those that gave you the freedom to speak bad on one another. I know that I am far from being a good example, but I try and resist evil in all forms. I love to serve and wish I would serve more. As I age older, I get angry at myself for being lax and too casual. I tell myself to do more by being a better example of citizenship and servant to all people. I had to laugh at Snowden, when during his interview that he explained that freedom of speech was not as he expected. What a dummy and he now will enjoy going to Brazil, where human trafficking and poor human conditions are rampant throughout that country. America is better than what you all speak poorly on and would be better if more of us would be servants to humanity.
  • Independent
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    Zach F Wrote: What do you mean "even though they knew we were Christian?" Jamaica's Christian population is around 70%. That is just slightly lower than the U.S. I don't think there is a single country in North or South America that has a Christian population below 65%. I have not checked them all, but of the ones that I have checks, Canada is the lowest at about 65% and it is steadily dropping.

    Volunteering to help in America and around the world is great thing to do. It should be encouraged. But by no means should we pressure children or anyone else to do so. Nor should we look down upon them if they choose not to do it.

    Like Dutch said, "character" is too subjective to define to any sort of degree. Same with morality. Laws should be based on protecting the rights of people. And education should be a combination of knowledge on how the world works, cultural arts/humanities, and critical thinking/problem solving skills so future problems can be handled effectively.
    Zach, compliments; you voice it correctly.
    I guess a lot of people here look only at details and their own surroundings but seldom look at the big picture on how the whole world turns.
    Since this is somehow an political site, then broad views are welcome to hopefully be informative to our government and people in politics.
    My feeling since coming to the US that seemingly only the US counts and acts as an island,while there is a huge world around us. Thanks to technology and more influx from the outside, may make people here more aware that they are not the only one's on this globe. You picture that right. Thanks
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: ..........and the poor and undeserved get no respect as being part of humanity. To serve one another is a privilege and highly respected in a cultural diverse population providing servitude to all. Mankind is now seeing less interest in helping one another, which is what the Politico.Com article is about. Even in this hub of discussion on a variety of issues, there is clear evidence of many not having a care for providing servitude and helping one another. The crossover points of these issues plague humanity with not caring for humanity. I have had the opportunity to provide issues on prostitution, human trafficking, gun control, child slavery, and now I see where all these issues point to one clear definition that most of the responses are only about ridicule and championing some selfish idea that people do not count. The thread on name calling was perfect. It added just the right spice of defining the responses on this Hub. The rules of the Hub are ignored and many threaten with abusive chatter and poisoning the issue with blaming our Armed Forces, Government, immigrants, and most all of society. There is no objective to provide answers, just garbage chatter and attacking the Hub responders. It's like sharks in a feeding frenzy attacking one another. I see where many of you enjoy it way too much.

    So, yes I am disturbed over the intent of this Hub in posting and venting our anger at many different issues. I see it serves one purpose and that is to keep the media junkies informed of the trigger impulses for what ticks us off. This is a useless group activity. I would rather be part of the NOMADS (Traveling UMC Servants helping America). The NOMADS is another class act of people serving one another. If you want to make a difference in our country and our world, start serving one another. Just open your eyes and ears to the millions of jobs to volunteer giving aid and comfort to those that need it. I see that more organized groups like "Grandmothers Against Guns" and groups organized to handle lost children in Human Trafficking are emerging. How many of you canvass your neighborhoods with good news, helping in the community or creating movements to improve humanity? I enjoy working in the Boy Scouts and there are three merit badges that are required for Eagle. Citizenship of the Community, Citizenship of the Nation, and Citizenship of the World, all three inform the Scout of his civic duty to serve people. Most likely, many of the responders have never experienced helping people and learned Citizenship, because if you had, you would be less responsive characterizing a poor attitude and desire to blame those that gave you the freedom to speak bad on one another. I know that I am far from being a good example, but I try and resist evil in all forms. I love to serve and wish I would serve more. As I age older, I get angry at myself for being lax and too casual. I tell myself to do more by being a better example of citizenship and servant to all people. I had to laugh at Snowden, when during his interview that he explained that freedom of speech was not as he expected. What a dummy and he now will enjoy going to Brazil, where human trafficking and poor human conditions are rampant throughout that country. America is better than what you all speak poorly on and would be better if more of us would be servants to humanity.
    I get the feeling that you are kind of lost in space; it is not very coherent their is no real "line" in your actions or thinking; they call that in Dutch "te hooi en te gras"; which means all over the place. Do me a favor and look at the big picture of the world and your actions in it; did it change the world? I guess not; (has Somalia less hungry people, because you helped boyscouts?)
    A political site is bringing awareness to our politicians of their actions and consequences on society; helping Boyscouts is great but does not change what is going on around you or the politics in this country which may affect the whole world. So just tinkering around, praying, fooddrives, bibles, grandmothers against guns, is like they say in Dutch again: is like a drop of water on a red hot plate (it evaporates before your eyes). So look at the big picture, which means the whole world and our effect on it with our actions.
  • Democrat
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    I agree with Dutch, although these groups do a lot good for the individuals concerned but on a wider scale there is very little change to the conditions that brought these groups to come to their aid, I feel being better informed is the answer, not the political hyperbole that resonates so well with the downtrodden, but the truth about the reason for their plight, whether or not if it's the US giving arms to one particular group over the other while at the same time giving aid to the victims of their actions. The truth must be given, maybe these people would prefer the current status as opposed to what awaits them during a violent change. At any rate the US or any other of the World powers should just leave these other countries alone, and let the UN handle the humanitarian causes.
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    johnnycee Wrote: I agree with Dutch, although these groups do a lot good for the individuals concerned but on a wider scale there is very little change to the conditions that brought these groups to come to their aid, I feel being better informed is the answer, not the political hyperbole that resonates so well with the downtrodden, but the truth about the reason for their plight, whether or not if it's the US giving arms to one particular group over the other while at the same time giving aid to the victims of their actions. The truth must be given, maybe these people would prefer the current status as opposed to what awaits them during a violent change. At any rate the US or any other of the World powers should just leave these other countries alone, and let the UN handle the humanitarian causes.
    Yes you are absolutely correct; thanks. The only note I have is that the UN is not what it was supposed to be when it was formed; it has become a "playball" and "escape" route for smart politicians and manipulators. So very in-effective indeed.
  • Liberal
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    What's this site coming to - Dutch and JC agree with each other!!!
  • Independent
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    pr Wrote: What's this site coming to - Dutch and JC agree with each other!!!
    Yes, I'm drinking to that; all together we can hopefully change things into the postive.
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    I think most of us have served our country one way or another (or several ways) & many have worked for the federal govt or been in the military. Many of us have been in the Scouts & other volunteer agencies. It almost seems hard to totally AVOID any kind of service. Also, many of us have joined various church activities & donation programs, or delivered Meals on Wheels for the elderly. We often do not think of it as "serving humanity" until we have this nice discussion. Also, every time we give our old (but good) clothing or household items to the Good Will and many other similar places. If we shop at thrift stores, we are basically "giving" to another charity, which keeps them in business. When you really think about it, we are basically a really GOOD bunch of people living in America. Really some very kind, decent, helpful people. --God Bless Us, one and all.
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    So there is hope for us after all.

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    eternal flame Wrote: I think most of us have served our country one way or another (or several ways) & many have worked for the federal govt or been in the military. Many of us have been in the Scouts & other volunteer agencies. It almost seems hard to totally AVOID any kind of service. Also, many of us have joined various church activities & donation programs, or delivered Meals on Wheels for the elderly. We often do not think of it as "serving humanity" until we have this nice discussion. Also, every time we give our old (but good) clothing or household items to the Good Will and many other similar places. If we shop at thrift stores, we are basically "giving" to another charity, which keeps them in business. When you really think about it, we are basically a really GOOD bunch of people living in America. Really some very kind, decent, helpful people. --God Bless Us, one and all.
    Like I said before: the Dutch saying: "Een druppel op een gloeiende plaat" (one drop on a red hot plate) it evaporates in a millisecond. The thing is it has no effect, except a "feel" good for the persons who donate; which "feel good" evaporates if you see what is happening around you and the world. So it does not help the whole world and its poor so it means nothing; it is the big picture what counts; therefore if our leaders only want to hand out money for weapons and wars and people here on drugs or guns, do'nt we then look at things way to simple?
  • Liberal
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    An interesting piece on why kids join the military. Just as true today as when it was written! http://www.alternet.org/story/52233/the_making_of_an_american_soldier%3A_why_yo...2