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conservativecat Wrote: A license issued by a State is a right and should be controlled by the Govt on who can and can't get those licenses ?Again, it seems you want the Fed Govt to decide the rules and requirements of a state issues licensed - I do not, I believe that's a State's issue (since they're the one issuing it)
As I have previously said - sometimes a state needs to be overruled by a higher power when their citizens pass discriminatory laws. Arkansas doesn't have the best track record in that regard.
Do you still advocate for Jim Crow laws or have you accepted that black people should be able to shit in the same bathroom as white people? We know the answer to that question if your "great" state of Arkansas was able to have their way.
conservativecat Wrote: I would be against the SC ruling on that - its a States issue. Nowhere in our Constitution do I see a right to get a marriage license nor do I see the Federal Govt issuing Fed marriage licenses.
Someone needs to dust off their copy of the Constitution...
Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1: The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
Amendment XIV, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
conservativecat Wrote: You know the reason for marriage licenses right? In large part to keep inter racial marriages from happening. Back to the good old Jim Crow days.
Not true. Marriage licenses have been around for hundreds and hundreds of years.
conservativecat Wrote: I'm actually against marriage licenses period. Civil Union licenses issued by States (or Fed Govt) for tax purposes etc. Marriages are church things, should have never been combined. So much for separation of church and state when they're intertwined so deeply huh ?
Marriages used to be a transaction between two families that had absolutely nothing to do with religion. It had more to do with property rights and to keep a families bloodline going than worshiping a fanciful creature in the sky.
Christians, as they did with countless other things, hijacked marriage and made it about themselves by formally defining marriage as a relationship with God in the 12th Century.
Now that we have the history of marriage out of the way, it is important to understand what marriage has become today. My wife and I are both atheists, yet we still got married because we wanted to share the remainder of our lives together. I have many atheist friends who have done the same. Marriage is a religious thing for religious people, but it is something entirely different to non-religious people.