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  • Other Party
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    Eternal Flame good questions for ..."Inquiring Minds"... but not as important as the bottom line:

    Bill and Monica had an affair, got caught, Bill lied about it, and now it is a stain on both their reputations that they will never put behind them as long as they live.

    Pun intended.
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    I just heard that if Reagan had any affairs, they at least were NOT while Reagan was in office doing the work of the American people. That means that Reagan must not be the ONLY one who has "Amnesia." Ronald Reagan did a lot of unusual things as President. For one, he insisted on forcing NASA to launch the space shuttle early, when the pipes were frozen, because he wanted a "photo opportunity" to talk to the Teacher in Space, on TV at a certain hour when the most people would be watching. But launching the space shuttle early caused it to blow up. Killing all aboard. Hard to estimate the cost to US taxpayers. All the astronaut burials, the destroyed Shuttle, & death of a very fine science teacher. It set back the US space program a lot. BUT that's just a day's work for Reagan. (& Ronnie is so cute in his cowboy hat).

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch... Ronnie was trying to "rig an election" -- a favorite hobby of the GOP -- trying to keep President Carter (D) from being re-elected. Reagan's GOP cronies were over in IRAN telling the Ayatollah (leader) if Iran would keep our US embassy hostages a while longer, it would help get Reagan elected. Otherwise, (polls said) Carter would have them all released, & HE would be very easily re-elected. So Ronnie was engaged in that kind of "deal" to try to "rig" an election. This in itself is a criminal act. BUT, Reagan's group even "bribed" the Ayatollah to hold our US citizens "hostage" for 444 days "until the election was over." In exchange, Reagan offered to give Iran some of our Hawk Missiles, taken from NATO supplies. NOTE: Giving "weapons" to an "enemy nation" is officially defined as TREASON.

    So lets see the score-card: Rigging an election, giving weapons to an enemy nation, & blowing up the Space Shuttle. (Pretty good, so far). Yes, it appears that Reagan is doing a good job, for "the people." But WHAT people? WHERE? Reagan even testified before the HUAC in Congress, giving them a list of supposed "Communists" in the Film Industry. (HUAC = House Unamerican Activities Committee). Reagan was a "spy" in the Screen Actors Guild, looking for commies under every bush. He turned in many "lefties" (& lots of actors & producers lost their jobs). Including some like Henry Fonda, a very decent man. LATER ON, Ronnie said that "there WAS NO LIST, and if there WAS a list, that the Commies made it up themselves." (unquote). Well, Ronnie WAS the one who made up the list, & he conveniently forgot to mention that his wife, Nancy Davis, was one of the actors who showed up at those "leftist" meetings. Another Reagan attack of "amnesia"?? & Do not forget that Nancy Reagan had a "psychic" (astrologer) plan all of Reagan's activities, while in the White House.

    Then there was the Contra Affair, where Reagan completely ignored the Boland Amendment passed by Congress, which said the US should not be involved in some revolutionary activities in South America. Reagan sent troops over there anyway, (screw the Congress). It turned out badly, but just chalk it all up to Reagan's "amnesia" & cowboy acting career. He just never saw a gunfight that he didn't like.

    Then there was the almost "assassination" of Reagan, when a friend of Daddy Bush's family went nutso & shot at Reagan, but was apparently a lousy shot. He hit the press secretary Brady, instead. Just think, if Bush's family friend had been a better shot, he would have killed Reagan, & Daddy Bush would have become President right away, not needing to wait for any pesky elections.

    The only reason Reagan was not put into prison for a VERY LONG time, was because at his "hearings" -- he claimed total amnesia of just about everything, he did not remember any meetings with people at the White House, or signing any significant papers, or writing anything at all, he
    even claimed he didn't recall anything in his DIARY, -- written in his own handwriting. NOPE, it was all a blank. (His very best "acting" of ALL).
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    eternal flame Wrote: I just heard that if Reagan had any affairs, they at least were NOT while Reagan was in office doing the work of the American people. That means that Reagan must not be the ONLY one who has "Amnesia." Ronald Reagan did a lot of unusual things as President. For one, he insisted on forcing NASA to launch the space shuttle early, when the pipes were frozen, because he wanted a "photo opportunity" to talk to the Teacher in Space, on TV at a certain hour when the most people would be watching. But launching the space shuttle early caused it to blow up. Killing all aboard. Hard to estimate the cost to the taxpayers of America. All the astronaut burials, the destroyed Shuttle & death of a very fine science teacher. Also set back the US space program a lot. BUT that is all just a fine day's work for Reagan. (Ronnie is so cute in his cowboy hat).

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch... Ronnie was trying to "rig an election" -- a favorite hobby of the GOP -- trying to keep President Carter from being re-elected. RR's GOP cronies were over in IRAN talking to the Ayatollah (leader) & said if Iran would only hold the American Embassy hostages a while longer, it would help Reagan get elected. Otherwise Carter would get credit for hostages release -- & polls said Carter would be easily elected if that happened. So RR was engaged in that kind of "deal" to try to "rig" an election. This in itself is a criminal act. BUT, Reagan's group even "bribed" the Ayatollah to hold our American citizens "hostage" for 444 days, "until the election was over." In exchange, Reagan pals offered to give Iran some of our Hawk Missiles, out of NATO supplies. But, giving "weapons" to an "enemy nation" is defined as TREASON. However, a little thing like that would never stop Reagan from his agenda,

    So lets see the score-card: Rigging an election, giving weapons to an enemy nation, & blowing up the Space Shuttle. (Pretty good, so far). Yes, it appears that Reagan is doing a good job, for "the people." But WHAT people? WHO? WHERE? Reagan even testified before the HUAC Congress giving them a list of supposed "Communists" in the Film Industry. (HUAC = House Unamerican Activities Committee). Reagan was a "spy" in the Screen Actors Guild, looking for commies under every bush. He turned in any "lefties" & many actors & producers lost their jobs. Including some like Henry Fonda, from the MidWest, one of the more decent people you could ever meet. LATER ON, Ronnie said that "there WAS NO LIST, and if there was a list, the Commies made it up themselves." (unquote). Well, Ronnie WAS the one who made up the list, & he conveniently forgot to mention that his wife, Nancy Davis, was one of the actors who showed up at those "leftist" meetings. Another Reagan attack of "amnesia"? --- and Do not forget that Nancy had a "psychic" plan all of Reagan's activities by an Astrologer, all the time.

    Then there was the Contra Affair, where Reagan completely ignored the Boland Amendment passed by Congress, which said the US should not be involved in some revolutionary activities in South America. Reagan sent troops over there anyway, screw the Congress. It turned out badly, but just chalk it all up to Reagan's "amnesia" & cowboy acting career. He just never saw a gunfight that he didn't like.

    Then there was the almost "assassination" of Reagan, when a friend of Daddy Bush's family went nutso & shot at Reagan, but was apparently a lousy shot. He hit the press secretary Brady, instead. Just think, if Bush's family friend had been a better shot, he would have killed Reagan, & Daddy Bush would have become President right away, not needing to wait for any pesky elections.

    The only reason Reagan was not put into prison for a VERY LONG time, was because at his "hearings" -- he claimed total amnesia of just about everything, he did not remember any meetings with people at the White House, or signing any significant papers, or writing anything at all, he
    even claimed he didn't recall anything in his DIARY, -- written in his own handwriting. NOPE, it was all a blank. (His very best "acting" of ALL).
    Wild story; but I don't care; I do care about what happens in 2016; we've had our share of all kinds of presidents, so lets get another "bought in" person, that makes it interesting all the time.
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    Dutch you say it's a ..."Wild story"... and that's definitely true.

    Wlidly entertaining.

    A very "unique" version of history.

    But you are correct, 2016 is what we should care more about, and a bunch of "bought in" persons will be running.

    Hillary looks like she will be leading the pack, but you are correct: they will be bought and paid for, and that goes for Hillary and all the rest.

    Let the MONEY flow!
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    It is so funny, people "make up" phoney scandals about Democrats, (like affairs that can't be proved) & act like the world will end if a man ever spoke to an intern, & she bragged it up to her friends. And she exaggerated it, to the point it got a President impeached, (but then he was found NOT GUILTY). Then the Republicans will go on shrieking about that phoney "affair" for the next 20 yrs, as the Scandal of the Century.

    But when a Republican gets caught "rigging an election," & blowing up a space shuttle, & making phoney charges of actors being Communists, & committing "Treason" by illegally giving arms to an "enemy nation" like IRAN. Then ignoring the Boland Amendment & sending US troops illegally into South America, (the Contra Affair), & many activities of a criminal nature --- Oh, that man is a HERO, a GOD, & we must rush out to waste tax money on building Monuments to Reagan on every hillside, every street corner, & on Capitol Hill. We must put his likeness on US gold coinage.

    Yes, there can never be anything Wrong with any man who is a GOP Republican. Especially a cowboy actor, who like almost ALL Republicans in office have never served their country in a time of WAR, (but acted a soldier once in a movie). That Prez Reagan, barely escaped Prison, except for faking "amnesia" in court, & people thought it would be a disgrace to America to convict a President for Treason & numerous other offenses. So they let him go, as long as he stayed in seclusion for the rest of his life, back at the ranch. A Tragedy. But IT IS TRUE.

    If the right-wingers on this forum insist on telling "lies & exaggerations" against Democrats, & acting like it is the end of the world, then I will tell the TRUTH about their lofty candidates of the GOP, and we can do an "honest evaluation" in comparison of the two.
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    Many major newspapers reported on the Reagan Hostage Delay situation. HERE IS ONE of Them.

    FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES ----- JUNE 26, 1991 ----- "A Necessary Inquiry"

    --- They can hardly avoid a formal Congressional inquiry into the charge that Ronald Reagan's aides conspired with Iran in 1980 to hold up release of American hostages until after the election. -- That charge, about for years, vigorously denied by Mr. Reagan, has taken on weight recently, owing mainly to support from G. S., a member of President Carter's national security staff, who now teaches at Columbia University.
    Mr. S., an authority on Iran, has written that long study of the matter overcame his original skepticism. He now believes a meeting in Madrid between senior Iranians and William J. Casey, director of the Reagan campaign, may have arranged a delay of the hostages' release, to benefit Mr. Reagan's election chances.


    **Other newspapers include: The BOSTON GLOBE, LOS ANGELES TIMES, & the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD.

    **Plus a book by: Barbara Honnegger, who worked for Reagan, -- "The OCTOBER SURPRISE." it tells secret deals that
    occurred, hostages traded for millions of dollars of weapons, & 22 people that were murdered to keep this all a secret.
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