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Donald Sterling Banned For Life From NBA, and more.

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  • Center Left
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    I know that we already have a thread about Donald Sterling's racist audio tape leaking. But I thought that since NBA Commissioner Adam Silver just came out today banning Sterling for life from the NBA and announced that he has every intent to push him out of team ownership, I thought another thread could be started specifically about Adam Silver's decision.

    Here is the transcript of Commissioner Adam Silver officially barring Sterling from the NBA for life. He goes into complete detail on what that means specifically (which was nice and refreshing to hear the specifics) as well as apologizes on behalf of the NBA for this scandal and talks about his intent to definitely convince the board to kick Sterling out of ownership for good. It's really interesting stuff.

    Do you think this is fair? He also said that he will be fining Sterling the max that you can fine someone for such a case, $2.5 million and that money will go toward anti-discrimination and tolerance efforts.

    Full transcript of Adam Silver on Donald Sterling ban

    Shortly after the release of an audio recording this past Saturday morning of a conversation that allegedly included Clippers owner Donald Sterling, the NBA commenced an investigation, which among other things, included an interview of Mr. Sterling.

    That investigation is now complete. The central findings of the investigation are that the man whose voice is heard on the recording and on a second recording from the same conversation that was released on Sunday is Mr. Sterling and that the hateful opinions voiced by that man are those of Mr. Sterling.

    The views expressed by Mr. Sterling are deeply offensive and harmful; that they came from an NBA owner only heightens the damage and my personal outrage.

    Sentiments of this kind are contrary to the principles of inclusion and respect that form the foundation of our diverse, multicultural and multiethnic league.

    I am personally distraught that the views expressed by Mr. Sterling came from within an institution that has historically taken such a leadership role in matters of race relations and caused current and former players, coaches, fans and partners of the NBA to question their very association with the league.

    To them, and pioneers of the game like Earl Lloyd, Chuck Cooper, Sweetwater Clifton, the great Bill Russell, and particularly Magic Johnson, I apologize. Accordingly, effective immediately, I am banning Mr. Sterling for life from any association with the Clippers organization or the NBA. Mr. Sterling may not attend any NBA games or practices. He may not be present at any Clippers facility, and he may not participate in any business or player personnel decisions involving the team.

    He will also be barred from attending NBA Board of Governors meetings or participating in any other league activity.

    I am also fining Mr. Sterling $2.5 million, the maximum amount allowed under the NBA constitution. These funds will be donated to organizations dedicated to anti discrimination and tolerance efforts that will be jointly selected by the NBA and its Players Association.

    As for Mr. Sterling's ownership interest in the Clippers, I will urge the Board of Governors to exercise its authority to force a sale of the team and will do everything in my power to ensure that that happens. This has been a painful moment for all members of the NBA family. I appreciate the support and understanding of our players during this process, and I am particularly grateful for the leadership shown by Coach Doc Rivers, Union President Chris Paul and Mayor Kevin Johnson of Sacramento, who has been acting as the players' representative in this matter.

    We stand together in condemning Mr. Sterling's views. They simply have no place in the NBA.
  • Liberal
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    His wife owns half the team under community property and had no part in this ruling. Also, sterling is gonna sue the girlfriend in civil court because taping a conversation when the other party is unaware is illegal. He'll sue for damages
  • Center Left
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    Anyone can sue anyone. Will he win? Perhaps. But c'mon. What is he really going to gain by suing someone that is worth pennies to the dollar of what he is?
  • Center Left
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    He can sue for damages but taping someone without their consent is perfectly legal. The only exception is if there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. If he was anywhere even remotely public, then she did not break the law.
  • Liberal
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    sbfriedman Wrote: Anyone can sue anyone. Will he win? Perhaps. But c'mon. What is he really going to gain by suing someone that is worth pennies to the dollar of what he is?
    He doesn't have to win. Winning for him is having you tied up in court for years. Zach, maybe in Texas, The personal nature of the relationship provides a reasonable expectation of privacy.
  • Liberal
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    Zach F Wrote: He can sue for damages but taping someone without their consent is perfectly legal. The only exception is if there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. If he was anywhere even remotely public, then she did not break the law.
    In federal prison when an inmate is on the phone with his family ,,,every minute the phone interrupts the conversation with a recording that states that the phone is not only being monitored but also recorded to inform your family. They have the right not to be recorded without knowledge. Not me, but the family,

    Also whenever the feds conduct a wiretap. The warrant is good for 6 months. And after the feds stop wire tapping...everyone that was on those tapes gets a letter from the DOJ informing them they were listened in upon by the feds
  • Center Left
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    Zach F Wrote: He can sue for damages but taping someone without their consent is perfectly legal. The only exception is if there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. If he was anywhere even remotely public, then she did not break the law.
    In federal prison when an inmate is on the phone with his family ,,,every minute the phone interrupts the conversation with a recording that states that the phone is not only being monitored but also recorded to inform your family. They have the right not to be recorded without knowledge. Not me, but the family,

    Also whenever the feds conduct a wiretap. The warrant is good for 6 months. And after the feds stop wire tapping...everyone that was on those tapes gets a letter from the DOJ informing them they were listened in upon by the feds
    The government is under far stricter rules when it comes to recording people due to the 3rd and 4th Amendments. Civilians can tape and record other civilians all day long.
  • Liberal
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    I have my past employer on tape threatening my job if I didn't run illegal for him. Can't use it in court
  • Center Left
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote: I have my past employer on tape threatening my job if I didn't run illegal for him. Can't use it in court
    I don't know the specifics on that so I can't comment on it but it wasn't illegal for your to tape him. I'm also not very knowledgable about what is and isn't admissable as evidence.
  • Center Left
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    Do you think the other teams will ban together and force Sterling out of ownership? Does anyone know exactly how that works, is it like when board members of a company all sit down and take a vote (without the person in question present) and decide if that part owner should be allowed to stay or not? Then majority rules?
  • Liberal
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    California and 11 other states requires all parties consent to tape a phone conversation
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    Yes I heard that it is illegal in California to tape a telephone conversation without both peoples knowledge. I think it varies from state to state. She illegally taped him and could be in trouble herself.

    Sterling seems like the kind of guy who could just dig in his heels and refuse to cooperate. He may go to court and fight just for spite. Even if he knows he can't win, he may just want to cause as much trouble, and drag it out in court as long as possible.

    What's he got to lose that he hasn't already lost?
  • Center Left
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    sbfriedman Wrote: Do you think the other teams will ban together and force Sterling out of ownership? Does anyone know exactly how that works, is it like when board members of a company all sit down and take a vote (without the person in question present) and decide if that part owner should be allowed to stay or not? Then majority rules?
    I too was wondering about this coming vote. It is en vogue to vote "The right way". More importantly, I wonder if the vote results will have full disclosure or if it will be private. If 100% public.... no reason to even vote... done deal. If 100% private, closet racists can remain true to their beliefs. Plus, they say 75% of the remaining 29 owners. That doesn't seem fair. As an owner, Sterling should get a vote. It should be 75% of all owners. Trust me I have no sympathy for this bad man... just what is fair. He's not applying for ownership. He's already in. As a member, he should get one ballot.

    As far as Sterling suing this girl...... On principal maybe. She's worth whatever her allowance is. She did sink a large ship.

    Last thought.... Lifetime ban for an 80 year old ? Might as well be 5 years. Except for the forced sell.
  • Democrat
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    I have been listening and watching all the news heads and pundits discussing this issue and I come away with one question ,if everyone in the NBA and the greater L.A.. area knew about this individual and his racist policies and the subsequent law suits brought about by those policies and practices, why the hub bub now? It reminds of the story about the family who knew about a thief in the neighborhood and did not say anything until he steals from them. This guy has been a NBA owner for almost 30 years ,that's 3 decades, and no one knew about it, come on now, be real,I think some of these folks who are loudly screaming racism are practicing racist themselves.
  • Center Left
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    johnnycee Wrote: I have been listening and watching all the news heads and pundits discussing this issue and I come away with one question ,if everyone in the NBA and the greater L.A.. area knew about this individual and his racist policies and the subsequent law suits brought about by those policies and practices, why the hub bub now? It reminds of the story about the family who knew about a thief in the neighborhood and did not say anything until he steals from them. This guy has been a NBA owner for almost 30 years ,that's 3 decades, and no one knew about it, come on now, be real,I think some of these folks who are loudly screaming racism are practicing racist themselves.
    Sterling went to court on a couple of occasions. Didn't lose the cases but made a settlement. He bragged that it didn't cost him a dime because insurance paid the fees. Known to be a racist but no direct incriminating evidence until his minimum wage mistress (who he's suing for embezzling 1.8 million dollars) leaked the recorded phone call. Some smart lawyer will come up with a form that you can get signed that ensures your mistress won't betray you in a way like this.