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Cinco de Mayo enriches our country!

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  • Center Left
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    Cinco de Mayo is coming up. The celebration that commemorates the Mexican victory of the Battle of Puebla during the French occupation of Mexico.

    Oddly enough, the celebration of this holiday actually started in Mexican-American communities. It has since grown to a nation-wide celebration. America is a mixing pot of hundreds of cultures. People have tried to stop this mixing throughout American history. Africans, Chinese, Irish, Polish, Japanese, Catholics, Mexicans, Africans (again), Mexicans (again), and Middle Easterners have all been targets or are current targets for anti-immigration policies and legislation. Despite all the doomsday warnings about these groups of people integrating into American society, America has survived and is a stronger and better culture for it.

    Cinco de Mayo should serve as an excellent example of how immigrants enrich and strengthen our society.
  • Liberal
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    I agree......when immigration was needed. Not the case anymore. America was growing, technology was on the horizon. Unfortunately, America's wealth isn't expanding at the working class level.....but immigration sure is. We are saturated...... Cerrado (closed). Out to lunch
  • Center Left
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    That's the exact same, tired old argument that has always been used against all of the groups of people I listed.
  • Center Left
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    In the Midwest, Cinco de Mayo is good for the Beer companies. Americans always want more holidays. In areas without those who know the history, it's just another reason to drink heavily with friends.
  • Liberal
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    Zach F Wrote: That's the exact same, tired old argument that has always been used against all of the groups of people I listed.
    Zach


    I was born at White memorial Hospital on Cesar Chavez & Echandia street...... Dead center EAST LOS ANGELES.... I don't know what the hell you talking about. LA has had an immigration problem since the 70's.......Trust me...I got a little knowledge about this.

    Tony is exactly correct
  • Liberal
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    ZACH

    You're from Denton Texas...where the heck is that?? Never heard of it. Population- nothing. You hire a few Mexicans to pick fruit and you think you're doing them a service. I can walk for miles in East LA and you would think you're standing dead center Guadalajara. Not another race anywhere
  • Center Left
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote: ZACH

    You're from Denton Texas...where the heck is that?? Never heard of it. Population- nothing. You hire a few Mexicans to pick fruit and you think you're doing them a service. I can walk for miles in East LA and you would think you're standing dead center Guadalajara. Not another race anywhere
    You demonstrated 2 things. One, you don't know anything about Denton, TX and Two, you don't know anything about where and how I grew up.

    I grew up in Arlington, TX. Graduated high school in Grapevine, TX. Both are smack dab in the middle of the DFW Metroplex, the 4th largest metropolitan area in the nation, (New York, LA, and Houston I think are the top three). I went to college in Denton, which is on the outskirts of the DFW area, population over 100,000. I see immigrants everywhere. I've worked alongside them, I've worked for them and I've hired a few.

    So please don't imply that I don't speak from experience until you ask a bit about my background. There are many things that I have no experienced, the immigration issue is not one of them.
  • Democrat
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    Some one mentioned to me awhile ago that this particular holiday is celebrated here in the United States more than in Mexico. Was he correct?
  • Liberal
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    Zach F Wrote:
    L.A. Citizen Wrote: ZACH

    You're from Denton Texas...where the heck is that?? Never heard of it. Population- nothing. You hire a few Mexicans to pick fruit and you think you're doing them a service. I can walk for miles in East LA and you would think you're standing dead center Guadalajara. Not another race anywhere
    You demonstrated 2 things. One, you don't know anything about Denton, TX and Two, you don't know anything about where and how I grew up.

    I grew up in Arlington, TX. Graduated high school in Grapevine, TX. Both are smack dab in the middle of the DFW Metroplex, the 4th largest metropolitan area in the nation, (New York, LA, and Houston I think are the top three). I went to college in Denton, which is on the outskirts of the DFW area, population over 100,000. I see immigrants everywhere. I've worked alongside them, I've worked for them and I've hired a few.

    So please don't imply that I don't speak from experience until you ask a bit about my background. There are many things that I have no experienced, the immigration issue is not one of them.
    Arlington? Must be nice. A friend of mine lives there....says its paradise.....Come to East LA..I'll show you third world. I don't have to know where you're from. Los Angeles has been saturated with illegals forever.

    In fact, today,,,,,non-union port drivers are on a two day strike in all the ports. In the eighties a port driver made between 65-85,000 dollars per year. But then the first amnesty came..They all bought trucks and started under bidding union labor. Today a port driver makes 80 dollars per round trip. He gets paid by the movement...not the hour. Traffic, breakdowns, long lines at the port....He doesn't get paid. A non union day driver today makes 30,000 a year. THANK YOU AMNESTY
  • Center Left
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    johnnycee Wrote: Some one mentioned to me awhile ago that this particular holiday is celebrated here in the United States more than in Mexico. Was he correct?
    Yep. It's hardly celebrated at all in Mexico. Only in the state of Puebla, where the battle took place, is it celebrated in Mexico
  • Center Left
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    Zach F Wrote:
    L.A. Citizen Wrote: ZACH

    You're from Denton Texas...where the heck is that?? Never heard of it. Population- nothing. You hire a few Mexicans to pick fruit and you think you're doing them a service. I can walk for miles in East LA and you would think you're standing dead center Guadalajara. Not another race anywhere
    You demonstrated 2 things. One, you don't know anything about Denton, TX and Two, you don't know anything about where and how I grew up.

    I grew up in Arlington, TX. Graduated high school in Grapevine, TX. Both are smack dab in the middle of the DFW Metroplex, the 4th largest metropolitan area in the nation, (New York, LA, and Houston I think are the top three). I went to college in Denton, which is on the outskirts of the DFW area, population over 100,000. I see immigrants everywhere. I've worked alongside them, I've worked for them and I've hired a few.

    So please don't imply that I don't speak from experience until you ask a bit about my background. There are many things that I have no experienced, the immigration issue is not one of them.
    Arlington? Must be nice. A friend of mine lives there....says its paradise.....Come to East LA..I'll show you third world. I don't have to know where you're from. Los Angeles has been saturated with illegals forever.

    In fact, today,,,,,non-union port drivers are on a two day strike in all the ports. In the eighties a port driver made between 65-85,000 dollars per year. But then the first amnesty came..They all bought trucks and started under bidding union labor. Today a port driver makes 80 dollars per round trip. He gets paid by the movement...not the hour. Traffic, breakdowns, long lines at the port....He doesn't get paid. A non union day driver today makes 30,000 a year. THANK YOU AMNESTY
    Arlington is hardly paradise. Just like every other large city, it has good areas and it has bad areas. You have really well off areas and you have really terrible areas. The poorer areas have gang issues. I live in one of those regions for a couple years after my parents were divorced. Before they were divorced I lived in a nicer part. I'm not saying that Arlington has the same issues as LA, it's just far from some sort of "caucasian paradise" that you are implying that it is.

    All the border states, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California all share a similar issue with illegal immigration. I am completely in favor of making it easier for immigrants to naturalize. A majority of illegal immigrants come over illegally because the legal method is a brutal 10 year process costing thousands of dollars. It's completely unreasonable.
  • Liberal
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    what about the unreasonableness of having to pay billions in healthcare costs and welfare. My first name is JUAN. Once again,,,"I feel bad for the cards people are dealt but it's not our problem". Hey... I wish I was related to a "ROCKAFELLER"...wasn't in the cards.

    So you feel that we should pick up the cost???
  • Center Left
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    The VAST majority of people on welfare and food assistance programs are American citizens, not illegals. Over 95%. Then when you compare households that are headed by a legal immigrant to native born households, the percentage rates are comparable. We live in a good country, that was built on immigration. To stop it now makes no sense.

    Unless we decide to completely destroy our country. I'm talking driving into the third world. An economic and standard of living tanking that would dwarf the Great Depression, people are going to keep coming here. The best bet is to naturalize them. Get them to start paying taxes with the rest of us so they too can keep this country going.

    Also, your name has nothing to do with this. I'm not sure what point you were trying to make.
  • Liberal
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    that's more of a reason not to have anyone else on welfare. We're broke under the current system. We give to everyone. Enough is enough. As it stands we already have the most lax immigration system there is.

    Did you know that with my conviction. I can't even visit England. I can never visit New Zealand,,,, and what do you think would happen if I got caught crossing into Mexico from El Salvador??

    Do you think Mexico would be easy on me If I tried to get a job there??? No sir. You should look into the standard of other countries policies before you criticize ours
  • Center Left
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote: that's more of a reason not to have anyone else on welfare. We're broke under the current system. We give to everyone. Enough is enough. As it stands we already have the most lax immigration system there is.

    Did you know that with my conviction. I can't even visit England. I can never visit New Zealand,,,, and what do you think would happen if I got caught crossing into Mexico from El Salvador??

    Do you think Mexico would be easy on me If I tried to get a job there??? No sir. You should look into the standard of other countries policies before you criticize ours
    New Zealand actually offers one of the easiest paths to citizenship. It's very friendly to visitors and immigrants. I'm not sure what restrictions they place on felons, but they are quite an open country. Germany and Ireland are the same. After getting a VISA you can be a citizen in 2-8 years.

    The top 10 hardest countries to get a VISA for are:
    1. North Korea
    2. Russia
    3. Democratic Republic of Congo
    4. Angola
    5. Iran
    6. Syria
    7. Saudi Arabia
    8. Sao Tome and Principe
    9. United States of America
    10. Sudan

    So, yeah, let's look around the world and see what company the USA is with when it comes to our ridiculous immigration policy. Assuming you can even get a VISA to the US, the time it takes to become a citizen is somewhere between 10 and 25 years. People want to come here legally, but our EXTREMELY strict system makes it cost and time prohibitive. As long as we live an strong economic country that is ripe with oppurtunity, people are going to want to come here, allowing them a reasonable path to get here, makes sense economically, financially, and humanely.