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  • Independent
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    It seems like lot of people think media like comic books, animated movies/shows, and video games are meant only for children. I think this attitude stifles creativity. I think there should be more comics and animated films/shows that cover mature topics. I think American animation is geared too much toward adult comedy and children's entertainment. Can't we have an animated show or movie cover a serious topic like war or politics? Comic books have already started covering serious subject matter. When will animation grow up? If comics could move past super heroes I don't see any reason why animation should be relegated to adult comedy or children's entertainment.

    https://www.facebook.com/Tiltshiftcomics

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chosin-The-Movie/123236581037975

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1083222116/chosin-a-korean-war-animated-mo...

    An animated film about the Korean War is being produced. I feel that this is a step in the right direction for American animation. I think this film will help battle the perception that animation is only for young children. They are aiming for a May 2014 release. I am really excited. They already made a graphic novel based on this project. I look forward to more projects like this.
  • Liberal
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    There is....IT's called "SOUTH PARK
  • Independent
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    JWIlls23 Wrote: It seems like lot of people think media like comic books, animated movies/shows, and video games are meant only for children. I think this attitude stifles creativity. I think there should be more comics and animated films/shows that cover mature topics. I think American animation is geared too much toward adult comedy and children's entertainment. Can't we have an animated show or movie cover a serious topic like war or politics? Comic books have already started covering serious subject matter. When will animation grow up? If comics could move past super heroes I don't see any reason why animation should be relegated to adult comedy or children's entertainment.

    https://www.facebook.com/Tiltshiftcomics

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chosin-The-Movie/123236581037975

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1083222116/chosin-a-korean-war-animated-mo...

    An animated film about the Korean War is being produced. I feel that this is a step in the right direction for American animation. I think this film will help battle the perception that animation is only for young children. They are aiming for a May 2014 release. I am really excited. They already made a graphic novel based on this project. I look forward to more projects like this.
    An animated film of the Korean War is sick indeed; how crazy can you get? Teach kids on how we fight the wrong wars, Crazy indeed!!
    Sorry this was again a total stupid war; If the North would have won like with Vietnam, we would be in much better shape. Just as with Vietnam if these two now same etnic enemy's would have made a deal without our interference then they would have followed the Vietnam model and not be so super fanatic as North Korea is right now. (a mixture of the North and South would have been much less dominant as is the North at present)
    Because we put an armed border there which we are already protecting since 1948 (billions of dollars for wasted for sure) as well as causing a nuclear armed to the teeth North Korea, thanks to us. Be proud of that America. Stop the nonsense to make an animated film of such total disaster; nothing to be proud of; we are still paying for this mistake. Really sick!!
  • Center Left
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    I usually look forward to and enjoy full feature length animated films over live action. Yes, the delivery method is definitely geared more toward a "family friendly" crowd. But, often the subject matter they expound upon lands firmly in the arena of profound insight, philosophy, religion, art, questioning society, and questioning boundaries, along with many other 'adult' themes that go well beyond just simply material meant to entertain a 3 year old.

    Consider Pixar's 'WALL-E' or Pixar's 'The Iron Giant', Hayao Miyazaki's 'Spirited Away' or Richard Linklater's 'Waking Life' & 'A Scanner Darkly'.. these are some of my favorite movies period, animated or no. Others like 'How to Train Your Dragon', the 1st 'Shrek', 'Aladdin', 'Wreck It Ralph'... these are other examples. The material doesn't have to show nudity, contain adult language or age restrictive sex scenes for the material to be adult.

    But, on the other hand, I do believe there are many other avenues that animators could go on down (and definitely should) that could be geared toward just adults and only adults.
  • Center Left
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    If its war or politics specifically that you mean, I'd rather that be left to live action films personally. I would rather not contribute a vote in favor of animating human violence. To me, watching material, for example like 'Saving Private Ryan' or 'Band of Brothers', in animation vs live action would further withdraw the viewer from the realism and violence, therefore creating an additional filter, making the atrocities of violence and war seem less real, or more stylized and cool. That would not be a good thing. The brilliance of Speilberg and Hank's work there was the realism. People need war to be depicted in as real and true and ugly and honest a form as possible. Not drawings. Wouldn't work right.

    As for politics, who knows. How would an animated film about the government being shut down by the Tea Party be any good? ... what would be a good idea for an animated flick that covers politics?
  • Liberal
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    I'd like to see the animated character POOP JOHN PAUL
  • Independent
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    I believe animation can be so much more children's entertainment.
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    I was raised on "Tom & Jerry" violence in animation, than got hooked on "Road Runner & Wiley Coyote", again violence. The old cartoons that continue to pop up and watch now by grandkids don't seem to appeal to them, it's odd. The violence in animation just doesn't attract like it used to. I guess I'm now cultured with the newer animation because I'm into "SpongeBob" real bad. My grandkids got me hooked, like a drug. Children's entertainment has changed and is more subtle in the messages it feeds little minds. Maybe the newer animated cartoons are channeling breeding of Hannibal Lector and Ted Bundy into our children. The producers and script writers for these new cartoons are very sneaky with their subtle messaging. Watch close the evil SpongeBob!
  • Independent
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    USAFcadet23 Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote:
    JWIlls23 Wrote: It seems like lot of people think media like comic books, animated movies/shows, and video games are meant only for children. I think this attitude stifles creativity. I think there should be more comics and animated films/shows that cover mature topics. I think American animation is geared too much toward adult comedy and children's entertainment. Can't we have an animated show or movie cover a serious topic like war or politics? Comic books have already started covering serious subject matter. When will animation grow up? If comics could move past super heroes I don't see any reason why animation should be relegated to adult comedy or children's entertainment.

    https://www.facebook.com/Tiltshiftcomics

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chosin-The-Movie/123236581037975

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1083222116/chosin-a-korean-war-animated-mo...

    An animated film about the Korean War is being produced. I feel that this is a step in the right direction for American animation. I think this film will help battle the perception that animation is only for young children. They are aiming for a May 2014 release. I am really excited. They already made a graphic novel based on this project. I look forward to more projects like this.
    An animated film of the Korean War is sick indeed; how crazy can you get? Teach kids on how we fight the wrong wars, Crazy indeed!!
    Sorry this was again a total stupid war; If the North would have won like with Vietnam, we would be in much better shape. Just as with Vietnam if these two now same etnic enemy's would have made a deal without our interference then they would have followed the Vietnam model and not be so super fanatic as North Korea is right now. (a mixture of the North and South would have been much less dominant as is the North at present)
    Because we put an armed border there which we are already protecting since 1948 (billions of dollars for wasted for sure) as well as causing a nuclear armed to the teeth North Korea, thanks to us. Be proud of that America. Stop the nonsense to make an animated film of such total disaster; nothing to be proud of; we are still paying for this mistake. Really sick!!
    You are ignorant! Why should animation be the realm of children's entertainment? This movie is targeted at adults not kids!
    I guess you are an very young inexperienced indoctrinated military robot; guess who would go to animated movies like that; I guess you and your baby brother. War is not something you can animate; it gets "distorted" to please dumb public like yourself. Sorry the US has invaded more countries than anyone else for the wrong reasons and has cost us thousands of innocent lives ; animation of that is only for the money for a few rich producers.
    Wake up baby cadet!!!
  • Independent
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    Cadet23 (your age?) Sorry you just shed your diapers, but may be this story of one of our members will give you a bit of education.

    eternal flame Wrote:

    In the US military, young men are duped into joining the Army/Navy/Air Force for guts & glory. It is
    always presented as a patriotic issue, with lots of opportunity for advancement & training. So many
    young men join, without really knowing what they could get themselves into. Rates of being killed
    or crippled are probably never explained, as well as being re-deployed over & over again, until a
    soldier is either crippled, killed, or commits suicide. Suicide has reached epidemic proportions.

    Noticeably, the warmongers who start the wars seldom or never are sent to dangerous war zones.
    Bush "W" for instance, was only inside the USA, for pilot training, which he got out of, by flunking
    the drug test. There are places where he was registered as AWOL for a whole year in Nat'l Guard.

    Rush Limbo also remained out of service (for VietNam) by designation of "4-F", which may have
    been simply (for Fat). Rushbo flunked out of college for drugs & cheating, so had no deferment.
    But both of them, as might be expected, had very wealthy fathers who could pull strings to get
    the best of outcomes for their sons. So now, nearly 40 yrs after VietNam, Bushie & Rushbo are
    still healthy & alive, living in splendor, completely devoid of any memory of a bloody battlefield.

    The rest of us -- Not so Much. The wounded veterans suffer every day, with pain & amputation,
    and their whole lives & families torn apart. Their ability to make a living are seriously impaired,
    & the other civilians are forced to PAY billions of dollars for the COST of the WAR which went on
    for at least 10+ years. What did we gain? NOTHING. Only the rich who invested in the big WAR
    MACHINE made billion$ of bucks - on the dead bodies of our soldiers. NEVER FORGET that.

    Since people like Bush & Cheney made such huge fortunes off the various wars we have fought
    lately, it should be EXPECTED from them, to contribute HUGE AMTS of FUNDS to the veterans.
    If they refuse, then it only shows their total lack of character, their selfishness, & corruption.
    Yes, I totally agree; I only hope people learn from it; anyway we never learned anything from Vietnam.

    Neither did we learn anything from Korea!!! Certainly animated films "color" it the wrong way!!
  • Independent
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    Dutch Wrote: Cadet23 (your age?) Sorry you just shed your diapers, but may be this story of one of our members will give you a bit of education.

    eternal flame Wrote:

    In the US military, young men are duped into joining the Army/Navy/Air Force for guts & glory. It is
    always presented as a patriotic issue, with lots of opportunity for advancement & training. So many
    young men join, without really knowing what they could get themselves into. Rates of being killed
    or crippled are probably never explained, as well as being re-deployed over & over again, until a
    soldier is either crippled, killed, or commits suicide. Suicide has reached epidemic proportions.

    Noticeably, the warmongers who start the wars seldom or never are sent to dangerous war zones.
    Bush "W" for instance, was only inside the USA, for pilot training, which he got out of, by flunking
    the drug test. There are places where he was registered as AWOL for a whole year in Nat'l Guard.

    Rush Limbo also remained out of service (for VietNam) by designation of "4-F", which may have
    been simply (for Fat). Rushbo flunked out of college for drugs & cheating, so had no deferment.
    But both of them, as might be expected, had very wealthy fathers who could pull strings to get
    the best of outcomes for their sons. So now, nearly 40 yrs after VietNam, Bushie & Rushbo are
    still healthy & alive, living in splendor, completely devoid of any memory of a bloody battlefield.

    The rest of us -- Not so Much. The wounded veterans suffer every day, with pain & amputation,
    and their whole lives & families torn apart. Their ability to make a living are seriously impaired,
    & the other civilians are forced to PAY billions of dollars for the COST of the WAR which went on
    for at least 10+ years. What did we gain? NOTHING. Only the rich who invested in the big WAR
    MACHINE made billion$ of bucks - on the dead bodies of our soldiers. NEVER FORGET that.

    Since people like Bush & Cheney made such huge fortunes off the various wars we have fought
    lately, it should be EXPECTED from them, to contribute HUGE AMTS of FUNDS to the veterans.
    If they refuse, then it only shows their total lack of character, their selfishness, & corruption.
    Yes, I totally agree; I only hope people learn from it; anyway we never learned anything from Vietnam.

    Neither did we learn anything from Korea!!! Certainly animated films "color" it the wrong way!!
    I am 23 years old. I am not a cadet anymore. I decided to go to college instead. One of my friends who is now serving as an infantryman says everyone he knows is in it for the glory. You are right about the military. It does not exist to protect America but merely exist as a system to advance the goals of the billionaires.
  • Independent
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    Dutch Wrote:
    USAFcadet23 Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote:
    JWIlls23 Wrote: It seems like lot of people think media like comic books, animated movies/shows, and video games are meant only for children. I think this attitude stifles creativity. I think there should be more comics and animated films/shows that cover mature topics. I think American animation is geared too much toward adult comedy and children's entertainment. Can't we have an animated show or movie cover a serious topic like war or politics? Comic books have already started covering serious subject matter. When will animation grow up? If comics could move past super heroes I don't see any reason why animation should be relegated to adult comedy or children's entertainment.

    https://www.facebook.com/Tiltshiftcomics

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chosin-The-Movie/123236581037975

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1083222116/chosin-a-korean-war-animated-mo...

    An animated film about the Korean War is being produced. I feel that this is a step in the right direction for American animation. I think this film will help battle the perception that animation is only for young children. They are aiming for a May 2014 release. I am really excited. They already made a graphic novel based on this project. I look forward to more projects like this.
    An animated film of the Korean War is sick indeed; how crazy can you get? Teach kids on how we fight the wrong wars, Crazy indeed!!
    Sorry this was again a total stupid war; If the North would have won like with Vietnam, we would be in much better shape. Just as with Vietnam if these two now same etnic enemy's would have made a deal without our interference then they would have followed the Vietnam model and not be so super fanatic as North Korea is right now. (a mixture of the North and South would have been much less dominant as is the North at present)
    Because we put an armed border there which we are already protecting since 1948 (billions of dollars for wasted for sure) as well as causing a nuclear armed to the teeth North Korea, thanks to us. Be proud of that America. Stop the nonsense to make an animated film of such total disaster; nothing to be proud of; we are still paying for this mistake. Really sick!!
    You are ignorant! Why should animation be the realm of children's entertainment? This movie is targeted at adults not kids!
    I guess you are an very young inexperienced indoctrinated military robot; guess who would go to animated movies like that; I guess you and your baby brother. War is not something you can animate; it gets "distorted" to please dumb public like yourself. Sorry the US has invaded more countries than anyone else for the wrong reasons and has cost us thousands of innocent lives ; animation of that is only for the money for a few rich producers.
    Wake up baby cadet!!!
    You may be right. But there are good anti war movies.
  • Independent
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    Dutch Wrote:
    USAFcadet23 Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote:
    JWIlls23 Wrote: It seems like lot of people think media like comic books, animated movies/shows, and video games are meant only for children. I think this attitude stifles creativity. I think there should be more comics and animated films/shows that cover mature topics. I think American animation is geared too much toward adult comedy and children's entertainment. Can't we have an animated show or movie cover a serious topic like war or politics? Comic books have already started covering serious subject matter. When will animation grow up? If comics could move past super heroes I don't see any reason why animation should be relegated to adult comedy or children's entertainment.

    https://www.facebook.com/Tiltshiftcomics

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chosin-The-Movie/123236581037975

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1083222116/chosin-a-korean-war-animated-mo...

    An animated film about the Korean War is being produced. I feel that this is a step in the right direction for American animation. I think this film will help battle the perception that animation is only for young children. They are aiming for a May 2014 release. I am really excited. They already made a graphic novel based on this project. I look forward to more projects like this.
    An animated film of the Korean War is sick indeed; how crazy can you get? Teach kids on how we fight the wrong wars, Crazy indeed!!
    Sorry this was again a total stupid war; If the North would have won like with Vietnam, we would be in much better shape. Just as with Vietnam if these two now same etnic enemy's would have made a deal without our interference then they would have followed the Vietnam model and not be so super fanatic as North Korea is right now. (a mixture of the North and South would have been much less dominant as is the North at present)
    Because we put an armed border there which we are already protecting since 1948 (billions of dollars for wasted for sure) as well as causing a nuclear armed to the teeth North Korea, thanks to us. Be proud of that America. Stop the nonsense to make an animated film of such total disaster; nothing to be proud of; we are still paying for this mistake. Really sick!!
    You are ignorant! Why should animation be the realm of children's entertainment? This movie is targeted at adults not kids!
    I guess you are an very young inexperienced indoctrinated military robot; guess who would go to animated movies like that; I guess you and your baby brother. War is not something you can animate; it gets "distorted" to please dumb public like yourself. Sorry the US has invaded more countries than anyone else for the wrong reasons and has cost us thousands of innocent lives ; animation of that is only for the money for a few rich producers.
    Wake up baby cadet!!!
    So has the UK and Roman Empire. Why haven't we learned that imperialism leads to the downfall of nations?
  • Liberal
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    I think USAF cadet deserves to slide on this one. He has figured out what the military really is and has decided college is a better choice (for him at least). I stopped watching animated movies and cartoons about age 8 or 9 and although I understand and respect shows like South Park, they just aren't for me. Doesn't mean they're good or bad, just not my "style". Some people move on from this form of entertainment others never do. I guess it's a generation thing and I'm just too damn old!
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    pr Wrote: I think USAF cadet deserves to slide on this one. He has figured out what the military really is and has decided college is a better choice (for him at least). I stopped watching animated movies and cartoons about age 8 or 9 and although I understand and respect shows like South Park, they just aren't for me. Doesn't mean they're good or bad, just not my "style". Some people move on from this form of entertainment others never do. I guess it's a generation thing and I'm just too damn old!
    PGR. then I suggest you see the three part South Park episode named "IMAGINATION WORLD" you'll be a follower after that. Trust me.


    It sums up the whole god issue in 90 minutes