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No justice at FSU unless you play FB

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    Independent
    Central, FL
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    http:/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jameis-winston-.html?_r=0

    Sad case of injustice. NYT reports how the police and university (FSU) did not investigate the alleged rape of a young woman at the end of 2012. How could they do anything ? It was the starting QB..... I love college football but this story will always make me think of Jameis Winston the same way that I view Kobe Bryant. Rapist who never paid the price because of big money. Now Jameis is an amateur so he doesn't yet have big money. But someone had to pay the lawyers.......This was in the NYT yesterday.

    I'm sorry, I couldn't get the link to post...I tried typing in the link but it's not working. It's a shame though. Long article with much info. It would have been great if it could have been there to open but the option of posting a link has changed and I can't use it any longer.


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    Nebraska
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    Tony I think I should correct you. In 2012, at the time of the alleged rape, Winston was not ..."the starting QB"... At that time he was a redshirt behind EJ Manual, who is now in the NFL. So, he had yet to play for FSU. He was already a star QB at the time that the incident in question was revealed to the public.

    That's not to say that they didn't see him as the QB of the future, and protect him just as if he were already the starting QB.

    Star athletes have been protected and treated differently for a long time and it sometimes starts well before they get to college, and that won't change anytime soon.

    The comparison between Kobe and Jamis is fair, both are priviledged athletes who are held to different standards, but Kobe was already a hugely famous and successful pro at the time of his "incident".

    I just wonder how many times they got away with these type activities before getting caught? And how many times since?
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    Independent
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    jamesn,
    As always, good points made. It bothers me very much though. If my sons had done the same thing, they would have received very different treatment. After all, they were just average athletes. For once I'd like to see a case where an example is made of one of these "Star or Star to be" athletes. I love sports as much as anyone but fairness deserves a fighting chance. What pisses me off the most is that I have a daughter and to believe a young women could be backed into such an unfair situation is very hard to accept in this country where we should expect much more.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I watching ABC news last week and there was a story or a series of stories regarding the co-eds of some national ranked collages acting as if the world were going to end and this was their last fling at partying, both on the West coast, California was one state and most of the Gulf Coast communities who cater to these spring break festivals of pure debauchery, both young men and young women put themselves in these often times dangerous and sometimes deadly situations, and now it's being discovered that there is a certain criminal element who go to these events just looking for prey, and what do these collages say about this, what are their plans to ensure the safety of their study body while on this so-called vacation ....crickets...crickets, and the parents of these young adults ,who foot the bill for this behavior by the way, are not saying a thing unless of course their little co-ed gets to be the star in a you tube video or winds up raped and left alone somewhere abandoned injured and scarred for life, her assailents if known won't be prosecuted because of the consensual defense brought about by the permissiveness of the partying. Rape is Rape, regardless of whether or not you are the BMOC or the MVP of some professional sports team championship, prosecute them all fairly and I believe the collages should bear some responsibility for the actions of their student body as far disciplining those who involved themselves in this activity, I am not saying a little partying is bad but this scene needs to be monitored soon before more young lives are scarred beyond repair or even killed.
  • Independent
    Mobile, AL
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    I have just finished reading Jimmy Carter's new book "A Call to Action-Women, Religion, Violence and Power". He reported that a current estimation of 1 in 5 female students is sexually assaulted in American universities but few are reported. A Justice Dept. report found that more than 95% of students who are sexually assaulted remain silent. There is the problem of the woman not wanting the publicity of a trial, lack of clear procedures and support structures on campus and the institutions don't want the stigma of admitting to such a problem. It seems to be much more widespread than just allowing the athletes to get by with no punishment.

    I live on the Gulf Coast in an area that is one of the spring break destinations. Parents seem to have no idea of what their children are really doing when they are down here and don't seem to care until something happens (as it does when you combine unsupervised kids & booze). We even have people who pay for condos for their kid's spring break from HIGH SCHOOL and allow them to come here with no adult supervision. Maybe we need a TV ad that says something like: "its spring break---do you know what your kid is doing'???
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    Independent
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    Something that I didn't know until recently is that another woman had sexual contact with JW at this time. She didn't accuse him of rape but she sought counseling right after. Coincidence ? We'll never know. Tell your granddaughters to stay away from famous athletes. Those with fame or fortune don't have to follow any rules.
    It's been said before (on this forum) that life isn't always fair. I've had trouble accepting that but I must admit that it's in fact true.