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Elizabeth Warren for President ?

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  • that guy in Arizona
    04-08-2014 10:30:45 AM
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    Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren was the keynote speaker at the Humphrey-Mondale dinner in Minneapolis last Saturday.

    The video of her speech has gotten pretty wide distribution, but in case you haven't seen it, the link below will take you right to it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCKeE9_LXNs

    If you review her biography, you'll discover that she is a VERY talented lady.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren

    Right now, the 2014 mid term elections are far more important than the 2016 Presidential election, but if she were to become the Democratic nominee for either President (or Vice President) in 2016, she would absolutely destroy any Republican that was running against her.
  • AmcmurryFreedom
    04-08-2014 10:51:22 AM
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    A great ticket................Hillary & Warren. A two woman show in the White House would be a fabulous improvement for America. America needs major changes in character. I'm voting for women, especially Democratic women. The Republican women in politics, I have seen especially in my state, are just like the Republican men and cannot be trusted with the values of improving America. They have huge business interests that sway their decisions away from Democratic values.

    Unless Hillary doesn't run, Warren is a great first choice. However, Hillary I believe is the number 1 candidate and Warren would be an excellent running mate and future Presidential candidate after Hillary. Sixteen year rule of Democratic women, what a prize!
  • pr
    04-09-2014 07:00:07 AM
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    I'm not so sure we need Hillary (although I shall vote for her in a second over anything the Refubs put up) by Warren is just what this country needs. Unfortunately, she doesn't have a snowballs chance in JC's hell of getting on the ticket let alone winning.
  • johnnycee
    04-09-2014 09:35:38 AM
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    It's not my hell. According to Dante there are several levels of hell but none bearing my name and of course there is the Biblical hell, but what the hell, what's in a name anyway.
  • pr
    04-09-2014 12:54:37 PM
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    You do believe in hell though- it's what keeps you moral, after all isn't it?
  • johnnycee
    04-09-2014 01:04:27 PM
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    pr Wrote: You do believe in hell though- it's what keeps you moral, after all isn't it?
    yes, I do believe in Hell but that is not what me keeps moral.
  • TJ
    04-09-2014 01:58:12 PM
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    I am not fully aware of Elizabeth Warren. Having watched this video, she sure seems to have promise. However, I doubt she would be elected for the highest office. And definitely wouldn't be elected as VP if running with another women. I personally have the utmost respect for the female gender and I believe we would be better off with more females in charge (I believe this comes from respecting my mother and my wife - as well as my daughter). However, I'm sorry to say that in many many ways, this country is still very ignorant. Too many ignorant old white men making major decisions. The lack of an open mind and the gender inequity that is alive and well makes this seem very unlikely. It's pitiful that our wives and daughters make .77 cents on the dollar as compared to men. Hell, it's 2014, you would have thought that we would have progressed more. I think there's still too much hate and too much ignorance for women or minorities to have any chance. Watch out though, There are those who have a year marked mentally (not sure what year it is) but the white man (a club I'm in), will not always be the majority in this fine country.
  • jaredsxtn
    04-09-2014 03:47:41 PM
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    TJ Wrote: I am not fully aware of Elizabeth Warren. Having watched this video, she sure seems to have promise. However, I doubt she would be elected for the highest office. And definitely wouldn't be elected as VP if running with another women. I personally have the utmost respect for the female gender and I believe we would be better off with more females in charge (I believe this comes from respecting my mother and my wife - as well as my daughter). However, I'm sorry to say that in many many ways, this country is still very ignorant. Too many ignorant old white men making major decisions. The lack of an open mind and the gender inequity that is alive and well makes this seem very unlikely. It's pitiful that our wives and daughters make .77 cents on the dollar as compared to men. Hell, it's 2014, you would have thought that we would have progressed more. I think there's still too much hate and too much ignorance for women or minorities to have any chance. Watch out though, There are those who have a year marked mentally (not sure what year it is) but the white man (a club I'm in), will not always be the majority in this fine country.
    I agree with a lot of what you said here, but I do offer one ray of hope. Barack Obama wasn't even on the radar of most Americans at this point in the election cycle in 2006.

    Here's an interesting poll I just came across from April 2006:

    Hillary Clinton 38%
    John Kerry 14%
    John Edwards 13%
    Joe Biden 5%
    Wesley Clark 3%
    Russ Feingold 3%
    Bill Richardson 2%
    Mark Warner 2%
    Evan Bayh 1%

    Barack Obama didn't even register on any national poll until October of that year.

    Many people insisted that our nation wasn't ready for a black President. They said there was zero way that he could win, especially with Hillary Clinton running. How did that wind up?!

    My point is that women make up 51 percent of this country. They still have a long way to go before they have true equality with men in this country, but that doesn't mean we aren't ready to elect one as our President. I would much rather have her than HRC on the ticket. Nothing against Hillary, but she's a corporate Democrat. Warren is the real deal and backs up her words with action. My only hope is that she wouldn't follow in the footsteps of Obama and change her tune if she was elected President.
  • Safe4Democracy
    04-09-2014 04:03:27 PM
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    The hell with Hillary. I'm and Elizabeth Warren Democrat all the way. There is not an artifical bone in her body. I have no idea what Hilary is about except Hillary. The Dems are falling into a trap by buying the questionable media hype that Hillary can't be beaten. She can. Elizabeth Warren nearly jumps out of her shoes with enthusiasm to right wrongs that the middle and working classes will embrace. Mark my words, before Hillary even gets close, the repubs will remind people who lived it that there is nothing more important than Bill Clinton's infidelity. I for one never want to hear about that again. Warren is in her prime and if she simplifies a worthwhile populist message, even Hillary haters on the right might go for her.
  • jamesn
    04-09-2014 04:20:55 PM
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    jared thanks for posting this poll from 2006. I have cautioned many times that polls this far ahead of the presidential election do not count for much, and this poll proves it.

    Just like in 2006 I hear people saying that it will be Hillary, it is a done deal, the whole nomination process is just a formality. As we know from the 2008 election, the polls from 2 1/2 years out mean very little. And if I remember correctly, the front running Repub from 06/07 was Rudy Guiliani.

    No one knows what will happen and I think Warren would have to move more to the center to have a chance, but that is now, in 2014. Who knows what 2016 shall bring?

    Right now the 2014 midterms are more important.
  • TJ
    04-09-2014 04:27:26 PM
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    A few points. This is a fickle nation. One reason Obama won twice is because of the previous 8 years of GWB. I think that makes it likely that the Repubs will make a very strong/well funded push in '16. I also am not a huge fan of HRC and Benghazi will haunt her. But Bill gives one hell of a strong speech and he works hard. I think he helped Obama win last time. I'm for Warren becoming a strong candidate but has she paid her dues ? Maybe a cabinet position might help her resume. One reason I really want a Democrat to win in '16 is to save healthcare. I think that is very important.
  • jaredsxtn
    04-09-2014 04:44:07 PM
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    jamesn Wrote: jared thanks for posting this poll from 2006. I have cautioned many times that polls this far ahead of the presidential election do not count for much, and this poll proves it.

    Just like in 2006 I hear people saying that it will be Hillary, it is a done deal, the whole nomination process is just a formality. As we know from the 2008 election, the polls from 2 1/2 years out mean very little. And if I remember correctly, the front running Repub from 06/07 was Rudy Guiliani.

    No one knows what will happen and I think Warren would have to move more to the center to have a chance, but that is now, in 2014. Who knows what 2016 shall bring?

    Right now the 2014 midterms are more important.
    I knew if we kept on trying that you and I would eventually agree on something, Jamesn! Haha.

    I agree that no talking head has any idea what 2016 will turn out like. They like to make things easy for themselves, which is why they are pushing Hillary and Jeb Bush. We both know it's not that simple.

    And I totally agree--we have to focus on 2014 right now. People keep seeming to forget that President Obama still has nearly three years left in his term. Clinton achieved a lot in his final two years and that was during an impeachment fiasco.
  • sbfriedman
    04-09-2014 06:18:25 PM
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    As it stands today, Elizabeth Warren is by far the most promising Democratic candidate for 2016, although I really don't like talking about elections years in advance. I will make an exception for Warren though as I have watched her impassioned speeches on the senate floor for a few years now, and she almost always impresses me with her clarity of mind and genuineness.
  • jamesn
    04-09-2014 10:03:18 PM
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    sb ..."impassioned speeches, clarity of mind, genuineness"... all great qualities, but that alone won't get her elected.

    Hillary has big money, big name recognition, big support mechanisms already in place, and maybe most importantly she has Big Bill as her main supporter/puppet master. Of course she had that before the 2008 elections, as well.

    Hillary has a big lead at this early stage.
  • jamesn
    04-09-2014 10:15:08 PM
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    jared I think we agree on lots of things, just not so much on what we post on this forum.

    What kind of world would it be if everyone agreed on everything?

    Yes, the talking heads are already predicting the results of the 2016 election, such as Chris Matthews, who made his final prediction a while ago. Until he changes it perhaps several times. His prediction means just as much, and is just as worthless as yours or mine.

    At least he's occasionally funny, though not intentionally.
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