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    ClayTaylorNC Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote: AMC I agree with you that all substances like weed, alcohol, heroin, pills, etc. impair your brain. Like most traffic accidents are from D.U.I cases. as well often from prescription drugs. Sorry to say we are number one in the world where that happens, as well number one on gun killings. So I suggest that we wave some more flags that will help.

    I really don't want to muddy this thread up with gun talk. But I have to say; Are you saying the U.S. is number one in the world for gun killings? Because that is very inaccurate.

    Here is a few random links I've provided to shed light on your opinion.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries...

    Honduras has way higher homicide by firearm than the U.S.

    washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2...

    Quote from article. "The dubious distinction of having the most gun violence goes to Honduras, at 68.43 homicides by firearm per 100,000 people, even though it only has 6.2 firearms per 100 people." This to me is 100% proof that even with a lower firearm per person rate, it is still a problem. In other words, no matter how many guns are out there, if someone wants to use one, they will get their hands on one.

    Norway is ranked number one for firearm fatalities. I do understand the population difference. It has been accounted for in the chart.

    ijreview.com/2015/06/348197-obama-said-...

    Now, for good measure, here is a chart that says U.S. is number one. But also notice the disclaimer at the bottom of the article.

    washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2...

    "The rate in several developing countries, particularly in Latin America, is significantly higher. Honduras, which has been called the murder capital of the world, has an average firearm murder rate that's about 20 times America's. But make no mistake: For a rich, developed country, the U.S. gun-related homicide rate is very, very high."

    The U.S. hits number one on their chart because they are not accounting for population like all the other charts.

    I know you have a locked steel case around America being a backyard barbecue, filled with guns, murders, rebel flags, and beer. But in these cases, facts need to be presented and not just opinions.

    Also, to get back to the thread topic. I am completely for medical marijuana. It does an incredibly more amount of good than anything else.

    So in other words you are happy with the number of killings here? Don't forget in this country (proven in Lee county) that the police reports lie; they do not count if someone dies/injured in the hospital after a gun shot etc. just to make sure the police gets good numbers for their performance. You should know by now how this country works? At least Honduras does not claim they are number one in the world, I guess. Just for the record, this is the number one country for traffic related accident caused by the substances I mentioned. Unless you know better. just shut your eyes. Sorry, again "gun nuts" are kind of mental anyway Also this country is over "drugged" because there is no discipline because doctors just push drugs to make money. Sure "medical" marijuana is fine with me if indeed it is used for this purpose; which {may be) be a trick to use it for other purposes. In this country you never know, if money is involved.
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    Gun nuts and wanting to criminalize gun owners is not the way to treat a very large number of voters, a group that votes and can sway elections. They took congress from Clinton and the Whitehouse from Gore.
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Gun nuts and wanting to criminalize gun owners is not the way to treat a very large number of voters, a group that votes and can sway elections. They took congress from Clinton and the Whitehouse from Gore.
    Chet, I do not criminalize gun owners; I only said they may be mental; why have a gun anyway; thus there must be an "mental' something which makes you buy or hoard guns. Sorry, you don't need such to do your job or run a family. Unless you are in the police, army, security service. We pay the police and army to protect the population so why pay them if you take their jobs in your own hand. "Fear" if that is the reason; then it is a "mental" issue. However if someone buys it for hunting; then I still think it is "mental" why kill something just for fun? The poor animal can't even defend itself. It would only serve a purpose if it is for shortage of food, which is not the case in this country. Thus shooting lions is absolutely a "mental" anomaly.
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    I searched on "medical marijuana problems", and "habitual marijuana issues", and located an astounding number and variety of concerns. I am glad that some states are taking the initiatives to pursue marijuana as a legitimate drug for use in people who suffer an ailment. However, as much as I like seeing the new drug initiative, some significant cases are developing. Where states are being regulated, it is not without lack of regulation in that many forms of medical marijuana being distributed is without any oversight. Of medical concern is the again the potency factor and the adulteration of mixed additives that make the medical marijuana more toxic than what should be consumed. The states oversight is being overlooked and undermanned for a purpose I believe is "Profits". The states legalizing marijuana is seeing huge tax profits, thus encouraging the lack of oversight. Such is business and politics.

    Many web links shown on the search revealed a problem with liquid marijuana form and has emerged a problem with youth usage. There is more facts arising to increased health concern and accidents occurring from the medical marijuana. Again this is lack of oversight and holding back regulation. I did not find any references as to an government agency (State or Federal), such FDA and EPA, monitoring the intrusion of medical marijuana into our society. Where are these groups? Is nobody testing the products for safety in consumption? Habitual users continue to show up in cases and are increasing as a result of medical marijuana. When the body becomes comfortable with a drug and is aware of the nonuse, it revolts. Marijuana has been proven medically as a habitual drug, although lesser problems than more toxic drugs. Again, I ask, Where is the significant oversight in using medical marijuana?". A variety of web links indicate the medical marijuana debate and usuage is a "wait and see" trial period. It could many years before we can actually agree that maybe marijuana should be more regulated than what is currently being done.

    America may be raising a generation of handicapped people that if we only could have regulated medical marijuana better, we could have stopped the destroyed lives of many. Apparently, kids are seeking more edible marijuana products that are being distributed and sold in stores. This is where the liquid forms of marijuana is contaminating the food sources and where "NO" control is being used on potency.

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    Dutch Wrote:
    So in other words you are happy with the number of killings here? Don't forget in this country (proven in Lee county) that the police reports lie; they do not count if someone dies/injured in the hospital after a gun shot etc. just to make sure the police gets good numbers for their performance. You should know by now how this country works? At least Honduras does not claim they are number one in the world, I guess. Just for the record, this is the number one country for traffic related accident caused by the substances I mentioned. Unless you know better. just shut your eyes. Sorry, again "gun nuts" are kind of mental anyway Also this country is over "drugged" because there is no discipline because doctors just push drugs to make money. Sure "medical" marijuana is fine with me if indeed it is used for this purpose; which {may be) be a trick to use it for other purposes. In this country you never know, if money is involved.
    Really, Dutch? You throw out a comment that is not correct at all. Then I completely correct you and back it up with statistics. So your only rebutle is to say that I am happy with people getting murdered? Alrighty.
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Where states are being regulated, it is not without lack of regulation in that many forms of medical marijuana being distributed is without any oversight.

    What on gods green earth does this sentence even mean?

    States that have medical marijuana laws have strict oversight of that law. That's the whole point of having a law in the first place! What state would vote to have marijuana law--medical or recreational--and then say "You know what? We're not going to regulate this. Let's just have a free for all." That makes absolutely zero sense.

    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote:Of medical concern is the again the potency factor and the adulteration of mixed additives that make the medical marijuana more toxic than what should be consumed. The states oversight is being overlooked and undermanned for a purpose I believe is "Profits". The states legalizing marijuana is seeing huge tax profits, thus encouraging the lack of oversight. Such is business and politics.

    Once again, you prove to be woefully ignorant when it comes to this issue. Marijuana is not toxic. It is not carcinogenic. It is not addictive. And it has not, on a single occasion, been proven to be the cause of death due to overdose or any other reason.

    These states, once again, have specific regulatory authorities that conduct oversight of both medical and recreational marijuana dispensaries.

    A tax is not a profit. A tax is a tax. Do you understand the difference between tax and profit? If a state makes more money then they thought there were going to in a given year then that is called a surplus. That surplus then benefits schools, hospitals, social service agencies, and countless other state departments that are dependent on the state to meet their yearly budgets.

    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote:Many web links shown on the search revealed a problem with liquid marijuana form and has emerged a problem with youth usage.

    Once again, you prove to be woefully ignorant when it comes to this issue. I feel like I'm starting to repeat myself...

    States that have legalized marijuana strictly regulate who can and can't buy marijuana and what types of THC and CBD an individual can buy. And those states that only have medical marijuana laws make an individual get a doctors prescription before they can obtain marijuana.

    The problem with youth usage is in the states that still wage war on marijuana and have a zero tolerance policy. The underground market is an easy way for individuals of any age to get their hands on marijuana. Ask any teenager in a state that has a zero tolerance policy on marijuana which drug is easier to get their hands on--marijuana or alcohol. I guarantee you it's marijuana (unless they have an older sibling because then it is both).

    You know what stops that whole underground market? Regulating marijuana and pushing the black market out of business.

    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote:There is more facts arising to increased health concern and accidents occurring from the medical marijuana.

    This isn't true. I have spent countless hours researching this subject and this isn't remotely close to being true.

    The number of deaths caused by DUI of alcohol are about 30 per day, or one death every 51 minutes. The number of deaths caused by driving while high? Zero. Maybe you should start calling for a banning of alcohol and not marijuana.

    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Again this is lack of oversight and holding back regulation. I did not find any references as to an government agency (State or Federal), such FDA and EPA, monitoring the intrusion of medical marijuana into our society. Where are these groups?

    That's because our oh so competent Federal government lists marijuana as a Schedule I narcotic with zero health benefits. That means the CDC, FDA, (I don't know why you put the EPA in there) can't actually conduct any research into the benefits of marijuana medical or otherwise. If you want the research done then call your congressperson and tell them to take marijuana off of Schedule I.

    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Is nobody testing the products for safety in consumption? Habitual users continue to show up in cases and are increasing as a result of medical marijuana. When the body becomes comfortable with a drug and is aware of the nonuse, it revolts. Marijuana has been proven medically as a habitual drug, although lesser problems than more toxic drugs.

    Colleges and Universities have been testing marijuana for ages and the results are abundantly clear--marijuana is safe for human consumption. It has been safe for human consumption for thousands and thousands of years. It's a plant that has naturally grown for thousands of years and no amount of legislation will ever stop it from growing and no amount of legislation will stop humans from ingesting it.

    What do you mean about habitual users continue to show up? The entire point of having a prescription is that you take it on a daily, weekly, or however many damn times your prescription calls for basis. Do you question a doctor who prescribes cancer drugs to a cancer patient? Why would you question a doctor who prescribes marijuana to someone with an ailment that could be treated with marijuana?

    Marijuana is proven to help people with who experience chronic pain, PTSD, seizure disorders, glaucoma, depression, anxiety, the side effects of cancer treatment, etc. etc. etc. etc. and etc. It has, not once, been the cause of death by overdose. All the while, 44 Americans die every single day due to overdosing a pill they were prescribed.

    In the end though, the real question here is why the hell do you care what someone else puts in their own body? It's none of your business.

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    Woe................but we are our brothers keeper and for that reason........................science is continuing on marijuana studies. It is very ignorant of indicating that marijuana is completely safe, like any drug is safe. A drug is safe if it is dispensed accordingly under a physicians control, which is why "smart" people use prescriptions and not some dealer in a store selling you something without oversight. On the oversight issue, it is very ignorant to believe that states that are legalizing marijuana have complete control and oversight of the product. That's like saying the FDA is always right when they approve a drug. Nobody is never always right.....that's a life history.

    Even other countries like Israel's research on marijuana is coming up with astounding discoveries, but they acknowledge that consistent monitoring and controlled dispensing prevents problems with dosage and doing harm to someone with a mental condition that should not have the drug.

    I realize there are "no" qualified physicians here on this thread, which I would be thrilled to hear a licensed physician discuss the apparently wonder drug marijuana as a cure all for society's problems. Marijuana is a drug and is being treated as such. The current marketing of marijuana appears promising, however, a criminal element has taken hold of this business and is attempting to market to children as well as people that under a doctors monitoring would be not prescribed the drug.

    Hate to burst your bubble, but you are wrong on all counts. Not all of us need the drug, especially when we see life more challenging than trying to escape. I do agree that people in pain and medical issues complicating their lives, medicine has found these people can be helped with marijuana. Remember this thought.......a drug is a drug and not a cure. I understand that using marijuana for an ailment does not cure you from that ailment and it more than likely will return if you stop using the drug (marijuana in this example). Don't give up on the body, because it has miraculous healing power. So giving into a drug may mean your on that drug for the rest of your life. Habitual users are documented in marijuana use and a fact is that their body revolts with a vengeance on stopping the use of marijuana, such as severe headaches and stomach problems.

    From your response to my post, you apparently haven't been reading the right material and only read what supports your stand on the subject. That is pretty narrow minded.

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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: From your response to my post, you apparently haven't been reading the right material and only read what supports your stand on the subject. That is pretty narrow minded.

    I read peer reviewed studies. Peer reviewed studies that are signed by dozens of qualified individuals who actually know what they are talking about and aren't prone to fear mongering. I wouldn't call that narrow minded. I would call that being someone who actually takes the time to research something and not be gullible to talking points by our politicians and big Pharma who wants to keep marijuana illegal at all costs so they can continue to make billions of dollars off of every prescription drug they come up with.

    Do you want a real thing to be upset about? How about you start railing against the thousands of Americans who are dying each year because of prescription opioid overdose. Thousands of Americans are dying each year because they are prescribed legal heroin and either intentionally or unintentionally overdosing and dyring. Where is your compassion for them? Because you know what? Not one person has ever died because of marijuana. Tens of thousands of Americans die each year due to an opioid overdose that they had a prescription for. Maybe you should start a thread on your heartbreak for that...

    I ask you again...why do you care what someone else puts in their own body? Are you calling for the prohibition of alcohol? A drug that kills thousands of Americans each year. Or prescription opiates? A legalized heroin that also kills thousands of Americans each year.

    Why do you care so much about a plant? It's none of your business what an individual puts in their own body, especially if that thing helps them with their PTSD, depression, glaucoma, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. and etc.

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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote:

    A drug is safe if it is dispensed accordingly under a physicians control, which is why "smart" people use prescriptions and not some dealer in a store selling you something without oversight.

    Even other countries like Israel's research on marijuana is coming up with astounding discoveries, but they acknowledge that consistent monitoring and controlled dispensing prevents problems with dosage and doing harm to someone with a mental condition that should not have the drug.

    I realize there are "no" qualified physicians here on this thread, which I would be thrilled to hear a licensed physician discuss the apparently wonder drug marijuana as a cure all for society's problems. Marijuana is a drug and is being treated as such. The current marketing of marijuana appears promising, however, a criminal element has taken hold of this business and is attempting to market to children as well as people that under a doctors monitoring would be not prescribed the drug.

    Hate to burst your bubble, but you are wrong on all counts. Not all of us need the drug, especially when we see life more challenging than trying to escape. I do agree that people in pain and medical issues complicating their lives, medicine has found these people can be helped with marijuana. Remember this thought.......a drug is a drug and not a cure. I understand that using marijuana for an ailment does not cure you from that ailment and it more than likely will return if you stop using the drug (marijuana in this example). Don't give up on the body, because it has miraculous healing power. So giving into a drug may mean your on that drug for the rest of your life. Habitual users are documented in marijuana use and a fact is that their body revolts with a vengeance on stopping the use of marijuana, such as severe headaches and stomach problems.

    From your response to my post, you apparently haven't been reading the right material and only read what supports your stand on the subject. That is pretty narrow minded.

    Did I just read you correctly in saying that you know a drug is, "safe" when dispensed under a physician? I hope you are being sarcastic. If not, I urge you to search for a medication. Absolutely any medication at all. And just read the symptoms that come along with those drugs doctors are "safely" dispensing. Be warned though, just one drug should take you a long while.

    After you look at the undeniable facts of the symptoms and real, scientificly proven risks of OTC medications, do some research on the symptoms and risks of Marijuana. Both recreational and pharmaceutical.

    Do you realize how long marijuana has been used both recreational and medicinal? Quite some time. To be more specific as to my point here, think of it this way. Recreational and other types of drugs have been found harmful throughout time. Especially drugs as high profile as marijuana. But yet, there are still no actual, scientifically proven risks of its use.

    You cannot say that you would rather take something like Hydrocodone, xanex, morphine, etc, etc, that has been proven to destroy your liver and other aspects of your body. Rather than consume marijuana. A clean plant that has been around incredibly longer than any of those pharma drugs and has yet to have one death caused by its use.

    If (clean) weed was harmful in some way or the other, we would know it by now. There are way too many scientific studies and naysayers to not be. Unless you have some groundbreaking new study that you have been working on, you should probably have your mind so close minded about something that has helped so many people. Including people I have introduced to it. Someone very close to me could not eat for weeks due to aggressive chemo. I introduced them to their first ever joint. Immediately after, they had a healthy appetite and wondered why it wasn't available to them legally and all the time. Just imagine that. Not being able to consume whole foods without vomiting. For weeks. I bet you can't. I can't even imagine that, and I was there the whole time. It was too late for them to enjoy the benefits of marijuana and live their last few weeks with some relief. Due to a needless law and people who swear up and down that it's BAD. Even though they have no proof it's harmful at all. Quite the contrary.

    And no, AMC. Jared is 100% correct. He doesn't have to cherry pick for studies. The amount of time and studies that have already gone in to marijuana is all there. Although, you would have to cherry pick (quite hard) to find negative "studies" pertaining to weed. You may have to go back a few decades. Just look for the black and white filmed feature on "The Marijuana Monster!".

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    Go ahead and smoke, I cannot help your irrational behavior. I get my highs on life and not some smoke like marijuana. Don't need it and don't want it...........period. So, quit attempting to persuade someone like me that has opposition with those that feel very little about themselves and rely on some drug like marijuana to give them quality. Just like opening Pandora's box, which will be revealed in the future as something society should not have wholesale accepted. Like lemmings running off the cliff, just follow them.

    Again, I believe marijuana should not be used by everyone and should only be used under prescription by a licensed physician. I'm through with this thread, because it is clear to me that you have no clue as to what the drug does to you other than, "it feels good". If you have a medical condition that marijuana soothes the pain or helps you cope with the health disorder, I have no problem with using it under direction of a licensed physician.

    Have a good day!

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    AmcmurryFreedom it is clear to me that you have no clue as to what the drug does to you other than, "it feels good".

    I actually know quite a good amount about marijuana. A lot more than the average user, I assure you of that. Although, I don't use it anymore for my own personal reasons, but that's besides the point. I would like to also say I had absolutely zero "withdraw" side effects you had mentioned so many people had. I have never heard of anyone having withdraws from stopping.

    I have to point out your hypocrisy. You say you're completely fine with a Dr prescribing it, but not fine with it being used. And your fine with it being prescribed by a Dr, but using it will open Pandoras box. Pick a side.

    Also, please provide proof of what marijuana, "does to me". Anything scientific will do just fine. Nothing opinionated, please.

    And thank you! You have a good day as well.

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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: I'm through with this thread, because it is clear to me that you have no clue as to what the drug does to you other than, "it feels good".

    Actually, it's you who has no clue as to what the plant does.

    Marijuana is sometimes the only thing that will stop epileptic seizures. Those epilepsy patients are not using marijuana because "it feels good"; they are using marijuana because it saves their life.

    Marijuana is sometimes the only thing that will help someone cope with PTSD. Those patients are not using marijuana because "it feels good"; they are using marijuana because it saves their life.

    Marijuana is sometimes the only thing that will help someone who has chronic pain. Those patients are not using marijuana because "it feels good"; they are using marijuana because it saves their life.

    Marijuana is sometimes the only thing that will help someone who is experiencing severe nausea from their chemotherapy treatments. Those patients are not using marijuana because "it feels good"; they are using marijuana because it saves their life.

    And marijuana is sometimes the thing of choice used by an individual who doesn't necessarily have an ailment at all and uses it precisely because it makes them "feel good." Maybe they use marijuana because they don't like to drink alcohol or maybe they just don't give a shit what people like you think about them. People use all sorts of things to make them feel good--caffeine, alcohol, prescription drugs, hard drugs, junk food, and yes, marijuana...to name only a few. Because when it all comes down to it, it's none of your damn business what someone does with their own body in order to help them "feel good."

    As much as you may want to be, you are not your brothers keeper. We are our own keeper and have the free will to choose what we put in our own bodies. We aren't governed by biblical law in this country. The First Amendment specifically prohibits that. You do understand that, right?? If someone wants to ingest something in their own bodies then they will do it. That's why the war on drugs has been a complete and utter failure for the past three decades.

    You can't legislate morality. The federal government should have learned that by now after spending hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars on this so called "war on drugs." The only thing we got of this war was a prison industrial complex that keeps nonviolent drug "offenders" behind bars for decades at a time on the taxpayer dime. Sounds like a great use of taxpayer dollars to me...

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    It's obvious that Amc has no knowledge on this topic. It's also quite likely that it won't stop him from talking about it. It's because he know's what is best for everyone.

    Everybody finds their own drug. Caffeine and alcohol are most common. At least he didn't bring up that damned horse.

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    hi guys, Alternative medicine is more accepted nowadays due to its promising results unlike pharmaceutical medicine, alternative medicine doesn’t give a negative effect such as kidney and liver problems when it comes to long term use. As for my alternative medicine usage, I use medical marijuana. The different strain has a variety of uses and effects depending on your needs. Like this marijuana strain blimburnseeds.com/news/marijuana/legali... This strain has a very potent effect on chronic pains like back pain and joint pain and a lot more. The benefits of marijuana, specifically the CBD cannabinoid, are undeniable. Let's take a look at all of the ways CBD is helping patients every day.