Forum Thread

Guns -Too much or not too much

Reply to ThreadDisplaying 14 Posts
  • Center Left
    Independent
    Central, FL
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    Today I was watching CNN Headline News. They had a story about a young boy in Columbus, Ohio. He appeared to be about 10 years old. He was
    in school when he lifted his thumb and extended his index finger and pretended that he shot a classmate. He was suspended from school for 3 days.
    The father thought it was ridiculous. He said "There are children who get into fights that are not suspended".

    My wife said that children are exposed to so much violence in video games and television. This is excessive. I'm not sure what is right or wrong. I'm for more gun control but that involves real guns. I remember when our kids were young, we didn't buy toy guns. One day they were outside holding sticks pretending that they were guns.

    What is your opinion on what should have been done with the boy in school - if anything.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    TJ Wrote: Today I was watching CNN Headline News. They had a story about a young boy in Columbus, Ohio. He appeared to be about 10 years old. He was
    in school when he lifted his thumb and extended his index finger and pretended that he shot a classmate. He was suspended from school for 3 days.
    The father thought it was ridiculous. He said "There are children who get into fights that are not suspended".

    My wife said that children are exposed to so much violence in video games and television. This is excessive. I'm not sure what is right or wrong. I'm for more gun control but that involves real guns. I remember when our kids were young, we didn't buy toy guns. One day they were outside holding sticks pretending that they were guns.

    What is your opinion on what should have been done with the boy in school - if anything.
    Nothing, absolutely nothing !!
  • Center Left
    Independent
    Denton, TX
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    Agreed, absolutely nothing. Dangerous road to go down, if they do anything. What's next, detention/suspension for even saying 'gun' in school?
  • Independent
    Florence, OR
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    to me I think the gun B.S is just the new thing to get people to view or buy and read there stories. its all about headlines and money and take peoples minds off other things that are important. this crap is nothing more than the pit bull dogs headlines of a few years ago and the Doberman headlines be for that. Im am not trying to say guns and dogs are the same same.. what I am saying is the stories from news and papers and so on are the same same.
  • Center Left
    Independent
    Charlotte, NC
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    This is what schools are coming to unfortunately. Nothing should of been done to the child. He is a child... Children do these things... If he was just playing when he did this then it shouldn't of even been paid attention too. If he did it in a spit of anger, it should have been handled different.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    Ok, I dare you to make a hand gesture of a gun and aim that at a police officer. We will not be seeing you for awhile, fact!

    If you are of the strong belief that it is the person that uses a gun to kill and it's not the gun in the argument for/against gun control, than, what is the kid learning by doing that act in school? If you are defending the act and against the school policy than what are you saying? Your saying, it's ok to pretend that the child is shooting another child. Since guns are not a problem, than put the gun in the child's hand, now what do you have? The perfect scenario that it is the person and not the gun. You just approved it is ok to act out the kill, and graduate into bigger things with the real thing, a gun.

    I believe the school did right. We need to teach our children humanity and not promote death squads of children roaming the school yards with guns at the ready. It is a sick word. Mankind has a long way to go to evolve into acts of humane treatment of each other. We are still Neanderthals.
  • Center Left
    Independent
    Charlotte, NC
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Ok, I dare you to make a hand gesture of a gun and aim that at a police officer. We will not be seeing you for awhile, fact!

    If you are of the strong belief that it is the person that uses a gun to kill and it's not the gun in the argument for/against gun control, than, what is the kid learning by doing that act in school? If you are defending the act and against the school policy than what are you saying? Your saying, it's ok to pretend that the child is shooting another child. Since guns are not a problem, than put the gun in the child's hand, now what do you have? The perfect scenario that it is the person and not the gun. You just approved it is ok to act out the kill, and graduate into bigger things with the real thing, a gun.

    I believe the school did right. We need to teach our children humanity and not promote death squads of children roaming the school yards with guns at the ready. It is a sick word. Mankind has a long way to go to evolve into acts of humane treatment of each other. We are still Neanderthals.
    "than put the gun in the child's hand, now what do you have? You just approved it is ok to act out the kill, and graduate into bigger things with the real thing, a gun. not promote death squads of children roaming the school yards with guns at the ready."

    Wow... You took what I said and turned it into that? Just a few of your problems:
    1. We're not talking about adults. We are talking about children
    2. We're not talking about cops
    3. No one said anything about "strong beliefs"
    4. No one is "defending the act"
    5. No one is "approving the act to kill"
    6. "death squads of children roaming yards with guns".... wow

    That's what you gathered from us saying the punishment was too far? If I gestured a gun at a cop it would be different, you'r right. That's also a different scenario. There's allot of things that are acceptable as children, and NOT as adults.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    So, do you allow the child to learn how to act irresponsible and learn to how to do similar as they grow older? No, the parents and the teachers have the responsibility to STOP these acts of aggressive threats. If responsible people do not stand up to acts and remedy the situation than, yes you'll get those roaming bands of children walking around their parents weapons looking for their prey. Yes, you'll continue to advocate for guns instead of the values for our children. When you start placing more value on the child instead of the gun than maybe you'll recognize YOUR error. It's not about guns, it's about raising our children in a threat free environment.

    Support strict Gun Control and Mental Health Initiatives.............help our children by not advocating the value of guns and lessening the problems of mimicking a gun with a hand gesture. That's just plain stupid and the child should be taught that's stupid. The school did right by all means.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: So, do you allow the child to learn how to act irresponsible and learn to how to do similar as they grow older? No, the parents and the teachers have the responsibility to STOP these acts of aggressive threats. If responsible people do not stand up to acts and remedy the situation than, yes you'll get those roaming bands of children walking around their parents weapons looking for their prey. Yes, you'll continue to advocate for guns instead of the values for our children. When you start placing more value on the child instead of the gun than maybe you'll recognize YOUR error. It's not about guns, it's about raising our children in a threat free environment.

    Support strict Gun Control and Mental Health Initiatives.............help our children by not advocating the value of guns and lessening the problems of mimicking a gun with a hand gesture. That's just plain stupid and the child should be taught that's stupid. The school did right by all means.
    You seem to be drifting into an area of governmental control of raising our children rather gun control, children have been dying from home accidents since there were children, when children die because of an unattended and unlocked weapons there are penalties for it, criminal penalties that is, increasing more restrictive laws will not reduce the effect of gun violence ,either by accident or criminal behavior , so what's your point, mandatory parenting classes to teach responsibility ?
  • Liberal
    Independent
    Durham, NH
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    I had much the same feelings about this as most others - a bit ridiculous until I discovered this wasn't an isolated incident from this kid and he had been warned in the past to keep his finders to himself. Unfortunately this kid is only mimicking his parents behavior (father, most likely) and while his parents and many others obviously don't see anything wrong with it that doesn't mean there isn't and the parents deserve some "awareness training"! Unfortunately, ignorance begets ignorance and we have a new young thug in the making because this kids parents don't understand how a civilized society works (sorta like all the gun nuts that feel they have a need to be armed whenever they are out in public).
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    I would think that the School would have first contacted the parents and explained their position on this incident prior to the suspension and that if there were further incidents then the school should have explained the consequences of his continued misbehaving, but to just go ahead with the suspension with no parental involvement seems a little heavy handed.
  • Liberal
    Independent
    Durham, NH
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    I read they had and the parents didn't respond
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    Having not read the article I can only surmise that the parents did not take the comments made by the school administrator serious, I don't know if the consequence was not fully understood by the parents, if not, the Administrator should have made it more clearer and that the incident should be taken with lot more interest than what is now being exhibited by the parents.
  • Center Left
    Independent
    Central, FL
    Are you sure you want to delete this post?
        
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ohio-student-points-finger-gun-suspended-22763446

    I just read a few articles on the internet related to this story. The escalated attention to gun issues is related to last years school - gun violence.
    Sounds like an instance of paying a price for the sins of others. The articles mentioned that this kid had not previously been in trouble at school.
    They even mention a seven year old who got in trouble at school in Maryland for eating a pop tart into the shape of a gun..... SERIOUSLY ? I would think that 25% of pop tarts are eaten into the shape of a gun - just randomly. Another kid got in trouble for shooting a Nerf dart gun at school. My God
    there is chaos going on. Next thing that you know, we'll have bands of armed students roaming the yards with guns.