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Cartoon Shoots Obama in the Head

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  • Democrat
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    Animated Cartoon depicts Obama's death in a fictional assassination plot.

    http://youtu.be/4-Qt30SOwTM?t=3m32s

    I think they've crossed the line here. I'm hoping someone will do a story on this. The president's death should not be a laughing matter.

    Thank you!

    -Jase
  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    This definitely crosses the line. I've not watched it yet but the FBI should hunt this person down and arrest them.
    Just watched it. The "constitution" character kills Obama, There's several cartons of this character with Ron Paul. Unreal.
  • Liberal
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    What can you expect from Fox Studios? I hope the FBI does investigate these fools.
  • Independent
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    Please note that the maker of the video is Foxbrosstudios, NOT Fox Studios. I did a check and there does not appear to be any link between the two. FoxBrosstudios claims on their facebook page to be located in Washington DC. Fox Studios headquarters is in New York City with an office in LA. Anyone can create a name to make there appear to be a link. Also if it was made by Fox Studios they most likely wouldn't blur the names of the people involved. PGR, to be clear I'm not saying that there 100% for sure isn't a link, just that after over an hour of searching, including doing a 'whois' search I can't find any link between the two. I do agree that it crossed the line though and the FBI should investigate whoever made the 'cartoon'.

    In fact I flagged it in hopes Youtube will remove it and posted a comment saying it should be removed on the messages at the bottom.

  • Center Left
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    RanmaMOJ Wrote:

    Please note that the maker of the video is Foxbrosstudios, NOT Fox Studios. I did a check and there does not appear to be any link between the two. FoxBrosstudios claims on their facebook page to be located in Washington DC. Fox Studios headquarters is in New York City with an office in LA. Anyone can create a name to make there appear to be a link. Also if it was made by Fox Studios they most likely wouldn't blur the names of the people involved. PGR, to be clear I'm not saying that there 100% for sure isn't a link, just that after over an hour of searching, including doing a 'whois' search I can't find any link between the two. I do agree that it crossed the line though and the FBI should investigate whoever made the 'cartoon'.

    In fact I flagged it in hopes Youtube will remove it and posted a comment saying it should be removed on the messages at the bottom.

    I have to agree. Also did a search. Doesn't seem like Fox Studios was actually the maker of this youtube video. Makes for a juicier story. But, just looks like a fake account made by someone that shouldn't be allowed to upload anything else to youtube. But, that does pose a greater question here, to what extent does freedom of speech play into this video?
  • Democrat
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    The question of the First Amendment as it pertains to communication, it is being addressed now as the FCC as been given the task to monitor the news both in TV and radio, to me this is a gross intrusion into the area of free speech, and as for me , if I don't like a particular program or I find it offensive, I turn it off. It may seem like a novel concept but it works.
  • Center Left
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    johnnycee Wrote: The question of the First Amendment as it pertains to communication, it is being addressed now as the FCC as been given the task to monitor the news both in TV and radio, to me this is a gross intrusion into the area of free speech, and as for me , if I don't like a particular program or I find it offensive, I turn it off. It may seem like a novel concept but it works.
    I agree 100%. In today's world, freedom of speech is only applicable if everyone in entire world agrees with what you are saying. If not, it does not apply.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    johnnycee Wrote: The question of the First Amendment as it pertains to communication, it is being addressed now as the FCC as been given the task to monitor the news both in TV and radio, to me this is a gross intrusion into the area of free speech, and as for me , if I don't like a particular program or I find it offensive, I turn it off. It may seem like a novel concept but it works.
    Unfortunately, this is exactly what happens when people don't take the time to research. For starters--no one was ever going to be assigned to monitor anyone. The FCC was tasked, by Congress nonetheless, to "submit to Congress periodically about its efforts to encourage greater ownership diversity among media companies." When Fox News picked up an opinion piece by Ajit Pai, one of the Republican appointees on the FCC that disagreed with this study, this became a "scandal."

    FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler wrote a letter to Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.), chairman of the House committee that oversees the FCC, that the organization had “no intention of regulating political or other speech.” Not only that, but the FCC doesn't have the legal authority to do what so many on the right are claiming they are trying to do. The only thing this "scandal" shows is how one conservative media company can create scandals out of thin air.

    I am a firm proponent of free speech and the First Amendment. Fox News, Rush, Sean Hannity, and countless other conservatives can say whatever their hearts desire. As can any liberal, socialist, communist, fascist, atheist, and any other ist you can think of. We all have the freedom to say whatever our hearts desire. What the FCC was tasked with doing would not have hampered any of that.

    The FCC has rarely rejected a license-­renewal application, even by radio and TV stations that don’t broadcast any news whatsoever. So to listen to the fear mongers out there who say that the government is trying to dictate what news you receive is exactly what the crazies on the right want you to believe. The First Amendment prohibits the infringement of free speech and a study that Congress mandated isn't going to change any of that. So once again, this is another non-story that the right blew up because that's what they love to do.

    In case you didn't have the chance to read the updates, the FCC has already said that it will amend the questions--that Congress mandated they come up with in the first place--to ensure no questions are asked that critics think are "invasive."

    As for the cartoon--I think it was done by an ignorant a**hole that had nothing better to do with their time. The wonderful thing about this country is that he (or she) had every right under the First Amendment to do so. Hell--South Park has done far worse skits than that.
  • Democrat
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    The FCC has since put a stop to this program, but one of their tasks was to question journalist's whether or not any of their stories was ever rejected for publication or airing over their objections, or if ever any of their Editors/ Producer told them not to investigate or write about any subject, and if so ,whom? Sounds kind of like intrusion to me, not to mention Big Brother but it sure sounds like it. I am glad they stopped it.
  • Center Left
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    I too firmly support the first amendment. However, it's not legal to threaten the POTUS..... isn't suggesting such an action akin to a threat ? I don't know. I think it was wrong and in very bad taste. Even if it was done towards a POTUS that I didn't like, I would still have thought it was wrong.
  • Democrat
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    I believe it's a felony at the federal level to threaten or cause harm to any member of Congress, the Executive Branch or the Judicial branches of government, I was also told that the mere suggestion without any overt action towards committing the act is grounds for prosecution. As it should be.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Freedom of speech can only be infringed if and only if the speech represents a "clear and present danger." There are many time when speech can be deemed to cause a clear and present danger, but every one of the cases that have made it to the courts dealt with wartime activities of dissidents. This video clearly doesn't reach that level of scrutiny. As I said--it was created by an ignorant a**hole and nothing more. Our Federal Government shouldn't waste their time on an idiot like that. They have far greater pressing issues to deal with.

    United States Code Title 18, Section 871 states that it is illegal to make "any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States." This statue was passed during WWI, one of the most tumultuous periods of American history. The number of cases tried under this statue follow the curve of heightened national tension in our country, which is not surprising. However, this law is rarely enforced and the Courts have tried to strike a balance between what an active and legitimate threat is and when an individual is just venting their hatred towards the President. This video seems to be the latter of the two and I don't see how it would pass the scrutiny that the Courts would hold it to.

    Don't confuse my sticking up for this person's right to release the video as a tacit endorsement of it. That couldn't be further from the truth. What I will always do is stick up for someone's individual right to say what they want, regardless of how vehemently I disagree with them. Freedom of speech does not guarantee that you will only get to hear what you want to hear or see what you want to see.
  • Independent
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    Foxbrosstudios is NOT made by Fox Studios. Here are the names of the creators, from their own account on youtube... Written by - Tim and Jay Fox Animated by - Tim Fox Conrad - Tim Fox Ron Paul - Bob Fox They stand by what they put on youtube and claim it is not advocating assassinating the president and that it is protected under 1st Amendment.... In fact, using Brandenburg v. Ohio it is not protected under the 1st Amendment. Here's their decision... "[Our] decisions have fashioned the principle that the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not allow a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or cause such action" Using the conservatives own standards (in their effort to censor lyrics because they say the music is likely to cause the kids to act out what they hear) it would fall under that ruling... (Bold by me)
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    I think that anyone who judges that cartoon "humorous" or "not offensive" is definitely heavily prejudiced against Obama, & would cheerfully stand by & watch him get assassinated without any sense of sadness or outrage. This would require such a person to be mostly heartless, hateful, and without conscience --- which translates to "psychotic." While I can mildly understand why some people could think that it is "just a cartoon", & not real, it is impossible to not understand the message being sent.

    And to go along with the filthy language being used, along with these threats to our President & Diane Feinstein, (et al) is a real sign of the Decay of our Civilization, where we are being hijacked by the culture of red-neck illiterate buffoons, to a fall-back to Neanderthal times. Such ignorance by the Tea Party is almost unbelievable in a nation which has FREE education for all, up to age 17. Also, educational PBS programs & fantastic libraries, & useful info available on the internet, (usually accessible to all).

    What can account for this enormous ignorance? Is it genetic? Did they all drink too much pesticide in their baby formula? Were they all dropped on their heads in infancy? If this keeps up, we will have to take drastic measures. We will have to make a literacy requirement for Voting. (Too severe, you say?) Just remember, that when the Founders set up our democracy, they DID NOT LET JUST ANYBODY & EVERYBODY VOTE. (1) slaves could not vote. (2) Indians could not vote. (3) no white man could vote unless he was a property owner. (4) WOMEN could not vote. -- Women were not allowed to vote for another 144 years, -- until 1920.

    SO, if we have uncivilized semi-literate buffoons trying to take over our govt to undermine our Constitution & set us BACK to Neanderthal civilization, then it is time to reassert that Voting is a "privilege" you must earn. [One thing for sure, is that people who make cartoons suggesting the virtual assassination of a US President, should not be allowed to vote.] It borders on "sedition" at least. (used to be federal offense, 20 yrs prison).
  • Center Left
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    Calling for the people behind this cartoon is be arrested is a crazy. This is protected under the First Amendment. It's clearly some satire. If it shocks you or offends you then the cartoon had the desired effect. If this cartoon makes you happy or makes you feel patriotic, then that is also the desired effect. It's shock value to one audience and a rally for another. The cartoon does not command anyone to assassinate the President and has not broken any laws. Like all stuff like this, I'm sure the FBI and Secret Service will do their due diligence and investigate to see if the threat is real and then move on if no real threat exists.