Bill Nye debates Ken Ham on evolution vs creationism
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Yes you are right, and I won't demonize anyone for their beliefs argued within the borders of their religion or religions. I just don't see a place for them in a science forum or science class in school. A religion class, yes.
For example, just browsing the website Christian Chat, I note that there is a lively discussion going on about Noah's Ark. Actually I read many of their posts...good questions raised by many believers amongst themselves...but few answers.
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Schmidt Wrote: L.A. Citizen --
Yes you are right, and I won't demonize anyone for their beliefs argued within the borders of their religion or religions. I just don't see a place for them in a science forum or science class in school. A religion class, yes.
For example, just browsing the website Christian Chat, I note that there is a lively discussion going on about Noah's Ark. Actually I read many of their posts...good questions raised by many believers amongst themselves...but few answers. I became an atheist at a very young age...on my own. At ten years old I found it to be fiction then. It's hard understanding how functioning, intelligent people actually buy-in to this nonsense. I demonize any person that has the potential to affect my life.....and these maniacs are sure making a run at it in our politics....I don't respect lies being told to me from anyone,,,,even if you believe the lies yourself. That person is a threat by the poison that can be spread to another confused individual.
Any time religion is brought up around me I tell that individual to shut-the- $^%#- up. These weak, fearful people not accepting that death is final. Fear is the origin of religion.....this is why it won't go away
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Hi Schmidt: Really good topic. I got the link to "Bill Nye the Science Guy" -- & tried to listen to the whole debate. It was interesting, but did not even approach the detail & intensity it could have generated. I think they were both trying to be too "polite" & so they wouldn't say all the things they could have. -- No hair pulling, or shouting like at the Scopes Trial (about teaching Evolution in the schools). That was a REAL TRIAL, & they even made a movie about that, starring Spencer Tracey. In that old movie, you can hear the very same ideas & arguments about teaching kids evolution, that they were arguing about (in court) 88 yrs ago,-- & that right-wing GOP are still arguing about today.
**UPDATE: This famous **REAL TRIAL** was in 1925, -- called the " Scopes Monkey Trial"
The defendant was John T. Scopes, (a science & math teacher) who was sued for daring
to teach "evolution" in a TN high school, (since they said it's an unproven hypothesis).
The (prosecutor) lawyer was Wm Jennings Bryan, 3 times candidate for US President.
The (defense) lawyer was Clarence Darrow (ACLU), very famous for his intellect & wit.
This (1925) trial was "radio" broadcast all over the USA, to a very enthusiastic audience.
All newsprint media avidly covered every angle, every participant, & every word spoken.
**There was a subsequent " movie" about that historical episode in American History, which
was called " Inherit the Wind" -- (1960) -- starring Spencer Tracey.
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I finally got back to "update" my previous post & add the real facts of the "Scopes Monkey Trial" (1925) that tried to stop the teaching of Evolution in the high schools in TN. (The trial took place 88 yrs ago, but has never convinced the GOP yet: ) I think that article is located about 5 articles back before this one. So you can go back THERE to get the details. (That movie is a real treasure).
Other than that, RELIGION is always, & always will be Controversial, because there are at least 20 world religions now, & they are always competing against each other. But MANY of them seem to TRY to promote Peace & Love, & Forgiveness. Some demand complete Austerity, in order to be in compliance. Others, like modern GOP "fundamentalist" churches, actually teach that if you are godly, you will be extremely prosperous, & you will achieve great wealth. However, their Ayn Rand philosophy promotes selfish greed, & contempt for the poor. IS IT ANY WONDER we can never all simply agree? Let's just hope that the "good" religions will outnumber the "bad" ones, & that you can still tell the difference. --- AMEN.
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L.A. Citizen Wrote: Schmidt Wrote: L.A. Citizen --
Yes you are right, and I won't demonize anyone for their beliefs argued within the borders of their religion or religions. I just don't see a place for them in a science forum or science class in school. A religion class, yes.
For example, just browsing the website Christian Chat, I note that there is a lively discussion going on about Noah's Ark. Actually I read many of their posts...good questions raised by many believers amongst themselves...but few answers. I became an atheist at a very young age...on my own. At ten years old I found it to be fiction then. It's hard understanding how functioning, intelligent people actually buy-in to this nonsense. I demonize any person that has the potential to affect my life.....and these maniacs are sure making a run at it in our politics....I don't respect lies being told to me from anyone,,,,even if you believe the lies yourself. That person is a threat by the poison that can be spread to another confused individual.
Any time religion is brought up around me I tell that individual to shut-the- $^%#- up. These weak, fearful people not accepting that death is final. Fear is the origin of religion.....this is why it won't go away
Very well said; the absolute thruth.
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