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Coke ad draws bad reviews

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  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    http://www.yardbarker.com/all_sports/articles/msn/twitter_got_crazy_and_ugly_in_response_to_coca_colas_its_beautiful_super_bowl_commercial/15695198?cmpid=msn%3Afoxsports%3Aansfox11

    Coke had a simple ad during the super bowl. It looked just fine to me. It showed the many faces of America. It had a singing of America The Beautiful. The crap hit the fan when it was sang - Not in English - That upset many viewers. Many tweeted negative remarks. What is wrong with this country ? The above link contains the 1 minute commercial and a brief story about the ad.

    Read the comments at the bottom of the web page. This is one screwed up country.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I saw nothing wrong with the ad.
  • Independent
    Widefield, CO
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    Wow, some of the comments were downright outrageous under the video... I am a supporter of making English the official language of the United States, but I saw absolutely nothing wrong with that ad. The Budweiser ads were much worse in my opinion. (Who really calls ping pong 'tiny tennis?!?) If anything they were using Arnold Schwarzenegger (His last name means Black Forest, just a bit of useless trivia) to make fun of Austrians...

    RanmaMOJ
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    I wonder if all the haters out there were aware of, or approve of, the America the Beautiful author, Katherine Lee Bate's relationship with her longtime friend, Katharine Coman:

    Katherine Lee Bates

    She was also described as a life long Republican, but left the party when they rejected the League of Nations: "Though born and bred in the Republican camp, I cannot bear their betrayal of Mr. Wilson and their rejection of the League of Nations, our one hope of peace on earth."

    How many of those right wingers are saying the same thing about the United Nations?
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Sorry to get back on topic, but no one should be surprised that people objected to the Coke ad.

    People look for a reason to be offended by anything.

    If you say the sky is blue, someone in twitterland will be offended. Or water is wet, or fire is hot. People will be offended and object.

    They just want to get their name on a tweet or a blog that causes controversy.

    It's not about the Coke ad, it's about getting their own names out there.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    I think Brenda Woods speaks for the majority of Americans and not these pinheads. Listen to her segment on the news last night. Now they'll start hating her as well....a boycott perhaps?

    Watch A Local Anchorwoman Destroy Conservative Misinformation About Multilingual Super Bowl Ad

    Way to go Brenda Woods. I have become a fan of yours.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    So what has all the angst and hand wringing accomplished?

    Some people will boycott Coke.

    Some people will buy more Coke.

    Life will go on.

    If this Coke ad gets some people upset, they need to get a life.

    If the criticism of this Coke ad gets some people upset, they need to get a life, too.

    It seems that lots of people don't have anything better to do.
  • Center Left
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    Well one thing is for sure. I don't think that I will ever use twitter. Seems like an unhappy group. I personally like the Coke ad and I love the diversity of this fine country.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Tony ..."I don't think that I will ever use twitter"... Good policy. But most Americans DO use it.

    The ad was fine, it's just that there is a group of people who are looking for a reason to be offended, and found this ad, and that was good enough to offend them.

    Then, there is another group who are looking for a reason to be offended, and found this group who were saying how they were offended by the ad, and they were offended that the first group of people were offended.

    And it just goes on from there...

    People are just a wee bit sensitive, don't you agree? It was just a commercial on TV and if they don't like it mute it or change the channel, but NOOOOOOO they have to make a big deal about it.

    They ALL offend me.
  • Independent
    Widefield, CO
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    I find this controversy to be kind of ironic. The conservatives are up in arms about the coke ad, while the liberals are up in arms about Sherman being called a thug claiming its racist (when the definition of thug has nothing to due with race). Sounds to me like both sides have found something to be offended by, and both sides need to get a clue. The word thug is not racist. America the Beautiful has changed a number of times throughout the years, and we translate other countries National Anthems to English. America the Beautiful isn't even a National Anthem. I agree, the entire outrage about the coke ad is down right idiotic, just as the outrage about thug being a racist comment. This is why I claim independent, I find both sides idiotic most of the time.

    RanmaMOJ
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    RanmaMOJ Wrote: I find this controversy to be kind of ironic. The conservatives are up in arms about the coke ad, while the liberals are up in arms about Sherman being called a thug claiming its racist (when the definition of thug has nothing to due with race). Sounds to me like both sides have found something to be offended by, and both sides need to get a clue. The word thug is not racist. America the Beautiful has changed a number of times throughout the years, and we translate other countries National Anthems to English. America the Beautiful isn't even a National Anthem. I agree, the entire outrage about the coke ad is down right idiotic, just as the outrage about thug being a racist comment. This is why I claim independent, I find both sides idiotic most of the time.

    RanmaMOJ
    These two things have absolutely nothing to do with the other. Comparing the two is just another way to try to refute an opinion that you disagree with. That is your right, but resorting to calling people that disagree with you idiots without actually taking the time to think about how they have formed an opinion only shows your close mindedness.

    Sherman was not accused of being unpatriotic nor did he sing a song in espanol. He gave an animated interview. I have formed my opinions about race in America well before Richard Sherman ever gave an animated 20 second interview. I have worked in the inner cities and seen racism up close first hand. I've seen white people use code words to show their disdain for people that don't look like them first hand. So to question the way I form opinions without actually taking the time to ask me how I have formed them is sad and shows your inability to debate people without being debatable.

    With regards to the Coke commercial--I think it's sad that it's 2014 and we are still having a discussion like this.
  • Independent
    Widefield, CO
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    Both sides manufactured the stories. The conservatives by getting outraged over what was an ad meant to show the diversity of America, the liberals by making the word thug a racist word. So yes, there is a link between the two. I would like to point out that it is considered hate speech to call an African American the 'N' word (a word I don't use, ever) while it is legal to call a white guy a cracker or honky. Yes, some people do use 'code words' to show disdain for other races, but I don't believe the reporter meant thug as such a code word. Also, you may want to look into my other posts on this site. By and large I post links for things I can provide proof of. When I use opinions I generally present it as such. That last comment of mine was an opinion, as it should have been clear.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    RanmaMOJ Wrote: I would like to point out that it is considered hate speech to call an African American the 'N' word (a word I don't use, ever) while it is legal to call a white guy a cracker or honky.
    Hate speech is perfectly legal, as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the Constitution. Just because it is considered hate speech does not make it illegal to say. Nearly every time an individual sues another individual or organization in court for the use of hate speech, the suit is thrown out.

    Terminiello v. Chicago ruled that Free Speech is "protected against censorship or punishment, unless shown likely to produce a clear and present danger of a serious substantive evil that rises far above public inconvenience, annoyance, or unrest"

    Brandenburg v. Ohio ruled that radical speech of all persuasions are guaranteed under the First Amendment. The court ruled that ""the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action."

    These are just two of many cases the US Supreme Court has ruled on that set the precedent for free speech, no matter how hateful, to be Constitutional.

    So, calling a black person the "N" word may be considered hate speech by the NAACP, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and countless other organizations, but it is perfectly legal for an individual or group to say the hateful speech. You are also correct that it is perfectly legal to call a white guy a cracker or honky.
  • Independent
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    As near as I can tell, you are right, but I would site the 'Fighting Words Doctrine'... The words utterance aren't criminally illegal, but they are basis for a civil case. I should have said that its not publicly acceptable to call an African American the 'N' word to his face, but its considered just fine for an African American to call a white guy a cracker or honky to his face.

    RanmaMOJ