New thread, Same Story...Gun Control....What now?
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America is getting tired , but of the tired old arguments of more regulation means less killing, I see there were several deaths due to people's inability to drive in the snow, should we ban them from driving, how about a certain designation on their license saying that they are only qualified to drive in clear dry weather, BTW, DUI is a crime and depending on the circumstance's could be a felony, but that hasn't stop that carnage one little bit ,battering your mate to death is still another crime that has been regulated to be almost meaningless, hasn't stop that killing either, every crime on the books has had more regulations applied to them but the crime goes on, as I said before, these crimes are social issues not law enforcement ,if the police were allowed to be more proactive in preventing crime how long before the first Law-Suit about police abuse comes up? Stop already with the endless studies and theories, the issue is jobs and how to get one, and like also said before ,one (1) less fighter /bomber, just one, could inject billions of dollars into our failing social system.
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L.A. Citizen Wrote: The problem with any control the government authors is that there's always more control on the horizon. It won't be just guns, there will be a footnote somewhere in that legislation taking away, restricting or taxing something else. This is why I don't trust our government.
Patriot Act opened up NSA practices. And as you can see people aren't as mad as they should be. They eased us into it because of our open knowledge of the Patriot Act. To even accept that our government allowed the NSA to commit numerous felonies and then blame Snowden for leaking it is outrageous. The NSA had and has no legal authority whatsoever to spy on Americans. After being made aware of this, the blame should have focused on the NSA. PERIOD.
To even excuse the government is outrageous. We have warrants for wire-taps to which are granted almost 100% of the time by judges to law enforcement. GET A WARRANT
In an open society that allows for ownership of weapons...we will never be able to prevent gun violence, so we shouldn't full ourselves into this fantasy that background checks are the answer. It isn't.
It's a goddamn shame that innocent people have to die on this planet, but they do.......part of life. I never could understand when people say " He was at the wrong place at the wrong time" NO! victims are usually where they should be......doing there thing
L.A. I fully agree on what you said; yes we live in a dangerous society; these are facts of life, you can not avoid it. In relation to any government action; forget it; they are unable to do anything, because it is way too late and try to reign in the nutheads; this is impossible in a country of more than 350 million people with 350 million guns or more, so like you said your luck is either with you or not. Related to the NSA, I fully agree this has gone way too far. At a given time however the government will do something as a face saving gesture,which probably will only be a "paper regulation" which may be gets them some fees/tax money, but absolutely does not change anything.
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shad Wrote: L.A. Citizen Wrote: The problem with any control the government authors is that there's always more control on the horizon. It won't be just guns, there will be a footnote somewhere in that legislation taking away, restricting or taxing something else. This is why I don't trust our government.
Patriot Act opened up NSA practices. And as you can see people aren't as mad as they should be. They eased us into it because of our open knowledge of the Patriot Act. To even accept that our government allowed the NSA to commit numerous felonies and then blame Snowden for leaking it is outrageous. The NSA had and has no legal authority whatsoever to spy on Americans. After being made aware of this, the blame should have focused on the NSA. PERIOD.
To even excuse the government is outrageous. We have warrants for wire-taps to which are granted almost 100% of the time by judges to law enforcement. GET A WARRANT
In an open society that allows for ownership of weapons...we will never be able to prevent gun violence, so we shouldn't full ourselves into this fantasy that background checks are the answer. It isn't.
It's a goddamn shame that innocent people have to die on this planet, but they do.......part of life. I never could understand when people say " He was at the wrong place at the wrong time" NO! victims are usually where they should be......doing there thing
I, disagree on the outing of the NSA. If we every would have anything close to another 911 or a Boston Marathon bombing. I, can hear it now we had the technology way did't we use it! You have this guy looked upon as some type of hero! To me he is a TRAITOR.
As to the gun law: BAN the concealed weapon law and pass: ALL WEAPONS much be carried openly like in Old West!!!!! Just disclosed by Snowden; the NSA also spies on all economic/financial data. But yeah, a bombing or a mall shooting is not so bad as all the traffic deaths, cancer, or heartattacks. Like the statistic say these killings are peanuts compared to all our own other murders in this country by guns.
I consider the above reply pure nonsense of a person who refuses to see the whole picture of what is happening inthis country.
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