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New thread, Same Story...Gun Control....What now?

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  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    The killing continues. The reporting the same, but receiving more people on location who witnessed the killing saying", Where's Gun Control?". This time a mall where are kids, family and friends enjoy the shopping experience. It's just another mall shooting, Gun Control is not to blame, just some dumb person with a vendetta against society, that's what the NRA supporters are claiming. When is enough......enough? Even in my city we had a local shooting the past hour. I know that's normal....you say.

    I see stricter gun control coming and the NRA better get their pocket books out to fund a defense. You all know it's going to happen. When is the NRA building complex going to get attacked by a depressed parent because their kid was killed by a gun. The NRA has a war brewing on their doorstep and I bet they know this and are fully armed to the teeth with a mini-militia protecting their folks.

    America is getting tired of hearing of these shootings. Thanks to the media and technology of distributing the news, we are going to see more. The public is going to get organized and the politicians will be singing a different tune and not support the NRA's agenda. I see this in our future. Enough is enough!


    Support Strict Gun Control and Mental Health Initiatives. Let law enforcement do their job and conduct free search and seizure.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    America is getting tired , but of the tired old arguments of more regulation means less killing, I see there were several deaths due to people's inability to drive in the snow, should we ban them from driving, how about a certain designation on their license saying that they are only qualified to drive in clear dry weather, BTW, DUI is a crime and depending on the circumstance's could be a felony, but that hasn't stop that carnage one little bit ,battering your mate to death is still another crime that has been regulated to be almost meaningless, hasn't stop that killing either, every crime on the books has had more regulations applied to them but the crime goes on, as I said before, these crimes are social issues not law enforcement ,if the police were allowed to be more proactive in preventing crime how long before the first Law-Suit about police abuse comes up? Stop already with the endless studies and theories, the issue is jobs and how to get one, and like also said before ,one (1) less fighter /bomber, just one, could inject billions of dollars into our failing social system.
  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    I too am for greater gun control. It's too late though. Even if they passed new laws on Monday..... they'll never collect the 360+ million guns out there.
    Of course I'm not for that. But am for reducing the numbers, Automatic weapons, and massive clips. And of course the background checks and a review of mental health. I think that ship has sailed. But this has been discussed many many times.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Amc did you hear what the shooter at the mall used today? Reportedly a shotgun was used just like one of the recent school shootings.

    Reminds me of what Joe 'Open mouth insert foot' Biden said when he was talking about the gun issue: "BUY A SHOTGUN! BUY A SHOTGUN!"

    A shotgun will be the LAST type gun to be affected by any new gun laws/restrictions.

    And some people think Good Ole Joe will run for president!

    The Republicans are HOPING he will run for president!
  • Liberal
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    Llos Angeles, CA
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    The problem with any control the government authors is that there's always more control on the horizon. It won't be just guns, there will be a footnote somewhere in that legislation taking away, restricting or taxing something else. This is why I don't trust our government.

    Patriot Act opened up NSA practices. And as you can see people aren't as mad as they should be. They eased us into it because of our open knowledge of the Patriot Act. To even accept that our government allowed the NSA to commit numerous felonies and then blame Snowden for leaking it is outrageous. The NSA had and has no legal authority whatsoever to spy on Americans. After being made aware of this, the blame should have focused on the NSA. PERIOD.
    To even excuse the government is outrageous. We have warrants for wire-taps to which are granted almost 100% of the time by judges to law enforcement. GET A WARRANT

    In an open society that allows for ownership of weapons...we will never be able to prevent gun violence, so we shouldn't full ourselves into this fantasy that background checks are the answer. It isn't.

    It's a goddamn shame that innocent people have to die on this planet, but they do.......part of life. I never could understand when people say " He was at the wrong place at the wrong time" NO! victims are usually where they should be......doing there thing
  • Liberal
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    Llos Angeles, CA
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    Many South American countries dealt with violent criminals by unleashing death squads in the late 70's/early 80's. Arm citizens to the hilt, grant them a killing permit to deal with maybe a violent street gang, rapists, habitual offenders. Empower the people with self governance of local communities. Change would occur overnight
  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    We have them today, they are known as religious zealots in the land of the free, however!
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    There really is only one way to curve the gun killings in America, "give the majority what it disserves," but that is the last thing the system is going to do. If you want to change the reality of gun violence in America, change the system that created the current gun violence we now are dealing with. The majority isn't packing guns because they are living the good life, they are packing guns because only the system rulers live good here now a days. Good like good paying jobs brings more good, bad like the fact all our jobs are being sent to China by the rich(China job creators) brings bad, to China workers jumping from their dorm windows into nets made to catch them when they can't take their living hell our jobs created, and the bad people shooting other people here more and more because too many of us are out of work. Gun control is a real concept, once we control the system that keeps bringing the bad into America and the world.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote: The problem with any control the government authors is that there's always more control on the horizon. It won't be just guns, there will be a footnote somewhere in that legislation taking away, restricting or taxing something else. This is why I don't trust our government.

    Patriot Act opened up NSA practices. And as you can see people aren't as mad as they should be. They eased us into it because of our open knowledge of the Patriot Act. To even accept that our government allowed the NSA to commit numerous felonies and then blame Snowden for leaking it is outrageous. The NSA had and has no legal authority whatsoever to spy on Americans. After being made aware of this, the blame should have focused on the NSA. PERIOD.
    To even excuse the government is outrageous. We have warrants for wire-taps to which are granted almost 100% of the time by judges to law enforcement. GET A WARRANT

    In an open society that allows for ownership of weapons...we will never be able to prevent gun violence, so we shouldn't full ourselves into this fantasy that background checks are the answer. It isn't.

    It's a goddamn shame that innocent people have to die on this planet, but they do.......part of life. I never could understand when people say " He was at the wrong place at the wrong time" NO! victims are usually where they should be......doing there thing
    L.A. I fully agree on what you said; yes we live in a dangerous society; these are facts of life, you can not avoid it. In relation to any government action; forget it; they are unable to do anything, because it is way too late and try to reign in the nutheads; this is impossible in a country of more than 350 million people with 350 million guns or more, so like you said your luck is either with you or not. Related to the NSA, I fully agree this has gone way too far. At a given time however the government will do something as a face saving gesture,which probably will only be a "paper regulation" which may be gets them some fees/tax money, but absolutely does not change anything.
  • Democrat
    Kirkwood, MO
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote: The problem with any control the government authors is that there's always more control on the horizon. It won't be just guns, there will be a footnote somewhere in that legislation taking away, restricting or taxing something else. This is why I don't trust our government.

    Patriot Act opened up NSA practices. And as you can see people aren't as mad as they should be. They eased us into it because of our open knowledge of the Patriot Act. To even accept that our government allowed the NSA to commit numerous felonies and then blame Snowden for leaking it is outrageous. The NSA had and has no legal authority whatsoever to spy on Americans. After being made aware of this, the blame should have focused on the NSA. PERIOD.
    To even excuse the government is outrageous. We have warrants for wire-taps to which are granted almost 100% of the time by judges to law enforcement. GET A WARRANT

    In an open society that allows for ownership of weapons...we will never be able to prevent gun violence, so we shouldn't full ourselves into this fantasy that background checks are the answer. It isn't.

    It's a goddamn shame that innocent people have to die on this planet, but they do.......part of life. I never could understand when people say " He was at the wrong place at the wrong time" NO! victims are usually where they should be......doing there thing
    I, disagree on the outing of the NSA. If we every would have anything close to another 911 or a Boston Marathon bombing. I, can hear it now we had the technology way did't we use it! You have this guy looked upon as some type of hero! To me he is a TRAITOR.
    As to the gun law: BAN the concealed weapon law and pass: ALL WEAPONS much be carried openly like in Old West!!!!!
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    shad Wrote:
    L.A. Citizen Wrote: The problem with any control the government authors is that there's always more control on the horizon. It won't be just guns, there will be a footnote somewhere in that legislation taking away, restricting or taxing something else. This is why I don't trust our government.

    Patriot Act opened up NSA practices. And as you can see people aren't as mad as they should be. They eased us into it because of our open knowledge of the Patriot Act. To even accept that our government allowed the NSA to commit numerous felonies and then blame Snowden for leaking it is outrageous. The NSA had and has no legal authority whatsoever to spy on Americans. After being made aware of this, the blame should have focused on the NSA. PERIOD.
    To even excuse the government is outrageous. We have warrants for wire-taps to which are granted almost 100% of the time by judges to law enforcement. GET A WARRANT

    In an open society that allows for ownership of weapons...we will never be able to prevent gun violence, so we shouldn't full ourselves into this fantasy that background checks are the answer. It isn't.

    It's a goddamn shame that innocent people have to die on this planet, but they do.......part of life. I never could understand when people say " He was at the wrong place at the wrong time" NO! victims are usually where they should be......doing there thing
    I, disagree on the outing of the NSA. If we every would have anything close to another 911 or a Boston Marathon bombing. I, can hear it now we had the technology way did't we use it! You have this guy looked upon as some type of hero! To me he is a TRAITOR.
    As to the gun law: BAN the concealed weapon law and pass: ALL WEAPONS much be carried openly like in Old West!!!!!
    Just disclosed by Snowden; the NSA also spies on all economic/financial data. But yeah, a bombing or a mall shooting is not so bad as all the traffic deaths, cancer, or heartattacks. Like the statistic say these killings are peanuts compared to all our own other murders in this country by guns.
    I consider the above reply pure nonsense of a person who refuses to see the whole picture of what is happening inthis country.
  • Democrat
    Kirkwood, MO
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    God forbid!! Sometimes it takes a tragedy like these to hit home before it sinks in and then a bombing or a mall shooting will have a more profound meaning to you!!
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    shad Wrote: God forbid!! Sometimes it takes a tragedy like these to hit home before it sinks in and then a bombing or a mall shooting will have a more profound meaning to you!!
    I hink you should start a new religeon; its called the "fear factor" church.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    There is no Xandau or Shangralai or even a Garden of Eden, it's just this place ,the here and now, live with it, there will always be poor people and even poorer countries, people will always kill one another regardless of the method or the reason, there is no 100% solution to any of these problems, so either adapt or become a statistic. Regulation is not the answer but a whole new perspective on our current social culture is what is needed.
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