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Jimmy Carter, the GREATEST president EVER

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  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    At least he was, until the GOP destroyed his legacy with Reagan, our WORST president EVER. How do I figure, allow me to explain.

    I latterly have to cry and hate when I think about Jimmy Carter's presidency, over everything America and the world would be right now but is not since Jimmy Carter's legacy was burned in oil.

    Ask most people what they think of Jimmy, and most will say he didn't do much, but that is so very far from the truth!!! He was the best president ever as far as the world is concerned, but most of us don't know this, thanks to the media we see, and thanks to the GOP for destroying his legacy.
    What legacy you are wondering, crazy you have to ask, but this is America, land of the lobbyist, and since you really don't know, I shall tell.

    Jimmy Carter's legacy that did not happen; "to make America a solar power nation by the 90's." How? Jimmy put solar on the white house and gave oil energy credits to solar, with these new energy credits for solar, solar business were popping up like pop corn, until the GOP stepped in with the worst president ever for the world. Reagans first order of business, remove the solar panels from the White House and take the energy credits away from solar and give them to oil again. Taking these credits away from solar put 90% of the new jobs Jimmy created out of business because the banks would not back these new businesses without the energy credits, just what Reagan and the oil loving GOP wanted! Reagan also took all chances away from the world to have no air and water pollution, Jimmy had insured no air or water pollution, at least nothing close to what we have now for pollution. Thanks to the oil owned GOP and Reagan, people are dropping like flies from second hand oil smoke now, but would not be if Jimmy's legacy wouldn't of been burned in oil. Sure we hear about second hand cigarette smoke on our Hitler media but no or little talk of all the deaths being caused from second hand oil smoke. Thanks a lot GOP and our Hitler media, you both suck for sure!


    To Jimmy Carter;

    It is crazy what we let our media and country become since You. Yes some of us know the truth about your legacy, way sad the majority does not, thanks to our oil owned GOP and their Hitler media.
    This is why I now get my news from Comedy Central, my comedy from Fox News and my political views from God(good for the majority), I believe you always did. Thank you President Jimmy Carter, for all you tried to do for the world's majority.

    Sincerely,
    unitedmajority
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    unitedmajority Wrote: At least he was, until the GOP destroyed his legacy with Reagan, our WORST president EVER. How do I figure, allow me to explain.

    I latterly have to cry and hate when I think about Jimmy Carter's presidency, over everything America and the world would be right now but is not since Jimmy Carter's legacy was burned in oil.

    Ask most people what they think of Jimmy, and most will say he didn't do much, but that is so very far from the truth!!! He was the best president ever as far as the world is concerned, but most of us don't know this, thanks to the media we see, and thanks to the GOP for destroying his legacy.
    What legacy you are wondering, crazy you have to ask, but this is America, land of the lobbyist, and since you really don't know, I shall tell.

    Jimmy Carter's legacy that did not happen; "to make America a solar power nation by the 90's." How? Jimmy put solar on the white house and gave oil energy credits to solar, with these new energy credits for solar, solar business were popping up like pop corn, until the GOP stepped in with the worst president ever for the world. Reagans first order of business, remove the solar panels from the White House and take the energy credits away from solar and give them to oil again. Taking these credits away from solar put 90% of the new jobs Jimmy created out of business because the banks would not back these new businesses without the energy credits, just what Reagan and the oil loving GOP wanted! Reagan also took all chances away from the world to have no air and water pollution, Jimmy had insured no air or water pollution, at least nothing close to what we have now for pollution. Thanks to the oil owned GOP and Reagan, people are dropping like flies from second hand oil smoke now, but would not be if Jimmy's legacy wouldn't of been burned in oil. Sure we hear about second hand cigarette smoke on our Hitler media but no or little talk of all the deaths being caused from second hand oil smoke. Thanks a lot GOP and our Hitler media, you both suck for sure!


    To Jimmy Carter;

    It is crazy what we let our media and country become since You. Yes some of us know the truth about your legacy, way sad the majority does not, thanks to our oil owned GOP and their Hitler media.
    This is why I now get my news from Comedy Central, my comedy from Fox News and my political views from God(good for the majority), I believe you always did. Thank you President Jimmy Carter, for all you tried to do for the world's majority.

    Sincerely,
    unitedmajority
    Sorry, As long as any President (whoever) gets elected via the "money" and serves the "money" while in office and has little or no foreign exposure or knowledge (because the person has to be born here) it never can be a good President. Nowadays you need a "world vision" President, who is aware of the world structure and culrures. Not as done right now; bully your way around the world; we will dictate others or invade them if we do not like them. Carter was President at the time the computers and cell phones were still being developed; the world has drastically changed because of the internet etc., so you need a President who adapts to that (not NSA style) but a broad minded person with world/international vision.
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    Dutch

    Jimmy Carter aged more in four years than any president ever, why, because he was working for the majority, the system didn't like that one bit and it shows in Jimmy's face. If you search "Jimmy Carter and solar" on the internet, you will see what I mean about President Jimmy Carter being the best president ever for sure.
  • Center Left
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    United, I would think that less than 1% of the people will agree with you. The economy was horrible during that time. The inflation rate was around 18%, unemployment was very bad, and the Hostage situation was a black eye also. I believe he was a good man, a very smart man as well.
  • Liberal
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    Good man, wrong time, wrong job!
  • Democrat
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    I agree with you tony, former President Carter was a victim of circumstance and events, I think his PR people made mistake portraying the President as a simple peanut farmer, as if he was in the fields himself picking the peanuts, his brother Billy did not help the family image much either, what him urinating on the tarmack, doing business with the Arabs and of course Billy's Beer, the accident in the desert was because of a flaw in the logistics and the inability to shield the engines from a sand storm, President Carter was and is a good man, but his critical decision making process was not up to the job.
  • Other Party
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    You guys are right, Carter was a very good person who was a terrible president. I also believe that he was probably the last president who did not sell out to the big money lobbyists. He just wasn't enough of a crook to be a good president. That is sad, but true.

    Other than putting solar panels on the White House, and getting very old while in office, I don't know what Unitedmajority thinks he did that was so great. I know that united is a big fan of solar power, and I think he lets that keep him from seeing the entire picture. Actually unitedmajority seems to be OBSESSED with solar power.

    President Carter's legacy will always be the hostage crises, but also the lousy economy, unemployment, skyrocketing gas prices, interest rates which kept many from being able to buy homes, and I will always remember his energy policy: turn your termostat down and put on 2 or 3 more sweaters and pray for warmer weather.

    Billy Beer! I used to own a can or a six pack...don't know what ever happened to it. I was never brave enough to drink it.
  • Libertarian
    garden city, NY
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    Poor President Carter. Sandbagged by his own party, reviled because he embarrased those who do not want peace in Middle East to do a deal with Egypt and make peace, and hated by big money who could not buy him. Also, do not discount that our own military also sandbagged him. They knew there are dust storms in the desert. Inadequate equipment (dust filters? hello!) purposely allowed? Our meticulous military who see every contingency? Who are they kidding. They didn't want a success. They were already shilling for Reagen. A couple of dead grunts? Small potatoes in their scheme of things.

    Remember the Maine? A few dead sailers (the officers were conveniently attending the Ambassador's party in Havana) is a small price to pay for a Pacific empire and control of Puerto Rico. We have a long history of this stuff.
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    edgie Wrote: Poor President Carter. Sandbagged by his own party, reviled because he embarrased those who do not want peace in Middle East to do a deal with Egypt and make peace, and hated by big money who could not buy him. Also, do not discount that our own military also sandbagged him. They knew there are dust storms in the desert. Inadequate equipment (dust filters? hello!) purposely allowed? Our meticulous military who see every contingency? Who are they kidding. They didn't want a success. They were already shilling for Reagen. A couple of dead grunts? Small potatoes in their scheme of things.

    Remember the Maine? A few dead sailers (the officers were conveniently attending the Ambassador's party in Havana) is a small price to pay for a Pacific empire and control of Puerto Rico. We have a long history of this stuff.
    Pretty sad when ones own party turns against them, it is one reason I haven't called my self a Democrat in many years, but trust me, I don't call my self a Republican, never did. Now, I see only one cause or party to fight for, the majority, since neither party works for us.
  • Democrat
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    Has any president leaving office accomplished more to society than Jimmy Carter? I think some do come close, but not the amount of activity Jimmy has done around the world. I assume whenever a sitting President who asks Jimmy to negotiate with another country, that he is paid. His peanut business and farming is not making him rich, but does bring a good income. Of course he gets his Presidential retirement. He is a smart engineer, which may have complicated his being a smarter president. Being an engineer myself, I was always told engineers make bad managers and could not hold their own in a normal business meeting. Oh well! Engineers are paid well and retirement is great, so making anymore money through management and business is not necessary.

    I believe Jimmy was the most trusting president and I can see how poor Jimmy stayed up nights worrying about how to act like a liar, cheat, and someone less trusting. I know Jimmy is a Christian and he has a heart of gold for helping the poor. Jimmy is an example for all of us to follow in helping mankind. I did have some concern on his outspoken beliefs on the middle east and how Obama is handling the issues. Jimmy is welcome to his opinions and he may know full well better on the middle east than our current and past presidents. The Middle East was a knowledgeable area of the world Jimmy played in and he is recognized well by many leaders.

    I can't think of anybody lined up for a future presidency that meets or comes close to being Jimmy Carter. Jimmy stands alone. I guess America wants a President that has less trusting favorability and more negotiator between Republican and Democrat issues. I think we are giving away too much of humanity for a President less trusting.
  • Other Party
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    Amc you are right in what you say about former President Carter. He has certainly had a great career since leaving the White House. He's been a great role model.

    The problem is that he will be judged by his time in the White House, not afterward. His time in office was a disaster, and no matter what he has done since cannot change that.

    The race for worst president since WWII is between Carter and GW Bush.

    Neither was anything to brag about.
  • Center Left Democrat
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    I don't disagree with any of the comments posted above. For what it's worth, though, a compilation of political surveys gong back more than 30 years puts Jimmy Carter in 27th place out of our 43 Presidents. For a lot of reasons, George W Bush comes in even lower, at 34th.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

    Nixon did a good job of turning America against the Republican Party (he is ranked as #32) , which helped Jimmy get elected. Unfortunately, Carter became ineffective because of (1) the 2nd oil embargo (2) the Iranian hostage and (3) hyperinflation in the American economy.


    Harry Truman left office with a 22% approval rating, the lowest on record, but his reputation over time has improved to the point that he is now ranked #7. As a result, it's possible Jimmy will be looked on more favorably in the future, but it's going to be an uphill climb.
  • Liberal
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    unitedmajority Wrote: At least he was, until the GOP destroyed his legacy with Reagan, our WORST president EVER. How do I figure, allow me to explain.

    I latterly have to cry and hate when I think about Jimmy Carter's presidency, over everything America and the world would be right now but is not since Jimmy Carter's legacy was burned in oil.

    Ask most people what they think of Jimmy, and most will say he didn't do much, but that is so very far from the truth!!! He was the best president ever as far as the world is concerned, but most of us don't know this, thanks to the media we see, and thanks to the GOP for destroying his legacy.
    What legacy you are wondering, crazy you have to ask, but this is America, land of the lobbyist, and since you really don't know, I shall tell.

    Jimmy Carter's legacy that did not happen; "to make America a solar power nation by the 90's." How? Jimmy put solar on the white house and gave oil energy credits to solar, with these new energy credits for solar, solar business were popping up like pop corn, until the GOP stepped in with the worst president ever for the world. Reagans first order of business, remove the solar panels from the White House and take the energy credits away from solar and give them to oil again. Taking these credits away from solar put 90% of the new jobs Jimmy created out of business because the banks would not back these new businesses without the energy credits, just what Reagan and the oil loving GOP wanted! Reagan also took all chances away from the world to have no air and water pollution, Jimmy had insured no air or water pollution, at least nothing close to what we have now for pollution. Thanks to the oil owned GOP and Reagan, people are dropping like flies from second hand oil smoke now, but would not be if Jimmy's legacy wouldn't of been burned in oil. Sure we hear about second hand cigarette smoke on our Hitler media but no or little talk of all the deaths being caused from second hand oil smoke. Thanks a lot GOP and our Hitler media, you both suck for sure!


    To Jimmy Carter;

    It is crazy what we let our media and country become since You. Yes some of us know the truth about your legacy, way sad the majority does not, thanks to our oil owned GOP and their Hitler media.
    This is why I now get my news from Comedy Central, my comedy from Fox News and my political views from God(good for the majority), I believe you always did. Thank you President Jimmy Carter, for all you tried to do for the world's majority.

    Sincerely,
    unitedmajority
    You are correct......understand that most people in this forum have years of indoctrination to overcome....truth requires objectivity
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    that guy in Arizona Wrote: I don't disagree with any of the comments posted above. For what it's worth, though, a compilation of political surveys gong back more than 30 years puts Jimmy Carter in 27th place out of our 43 Presidents. For a lot of reasons, George W Bush comes in even lower, at 34th.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

    Nixon did a good job of turning America against the Republican Party (he is ranked as #32) , which helped Jimmy get elected. Unfortunately, Carter became ineffective because of (1) the 2nd oil embargo (2) the Iranian hostage and (3) hyperinflation in the American economy.


    Harry Truman left office with a 22% approval rating, the lowest on record, but his reputation over time has improved to the point that he is now ranked #7. As a result, it's possible Jimmy will be looked on more favorably in the future, but it's going to be an uphill climb.
    I like your info, I for one look at Jimmy Carter more favorably the more I learn about him. An up hill climb you are right as far as the majority is concerned. Had Jimmy Carter been elected for a 2nd term, most likely he would of been shot, solar had to be killed in America one way or another. Maybe I am to harsh on Reagan, in a way he saved Jimmy Carter's life by beating him. Sad the outcome of Jimmy's legacy, still he will always be number 1 in my eyes for what he tried to do, keep the world pollution free.