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  • Independent
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    Bread and show, is how the Roman system controlled the masses. It is how our system controls us today, food stamps(along with Obama phones and other government hand outs) being the bread of today, the war(s) being our show. War has been entertaining America for over a decade now, keeping us from seeing the truth about the system. Just how the Roman system was setting their majority up for a fall for money, thus the end of the Romans, our system is leading America's majority down the exact foot prints with the exact same tactic as Rome.

    Look at the new scene in the show, Gates who happens to be old defense secretary, has America talking like gossiping girls about war, with more people than ever backing more war, crazy for sure. The world has many other important needs, war is something no one needs, except for show.
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    unitedmajority Wrote: Bread and show, is how the Roman system controlled the masses. It is how our system controls us today, food stamps(along with Obama phones and other government hand outs) being the bread of today, the war(s) being our show. War has been entertaining America for over a decade now, keeping us from seeing the truth about the system. Just how the Roman system was setting their majority up for a fall for money, thus the end of the Romans, our system is leading America's majority down the exact foot prints with the exact same tactic as Rome.

    Look at the new scene in the show, Gates who happens to be old defense secretary, has America talking like gossiping girls about war, with more people than ever backing more war, crazy for sure. The world has many other important needs, war is something no one needs, except for show.
    Yes you see the picture as it is; however as many of us already said; money and prestige is the real war maker. Sorry to say it is too late to change course, the damage has been done and keeps on going. Instead of reducing our forces and CIA personel, we are increasing such worldwide.
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    Gates is saying things that will sell his book. Plain and simple. They all do it.

    Is it true? Probably some of it, maybe most of it, possibly all of it, but make no mistake he's trying to sell the book.

    Obama will be able to name his price to "write" his book after office. He will probably set the record.
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    jamesn Wrote: Gates is saying things that will sell his book. Plain and simple. They all do it.

    Is it true? Probably some of it, maybe most of it, possibly all of it, but make no mistake he's trying to sell the book.

    Obama will be able to name his price to "write" his book after office. He will probably set the record.
    You are right for sure, and at the same time, he has provided hours of show for the system. Obama's book would be better I am sure, if the system was powerless, but history has proven what happens to the ones who buck the system too hard.
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    Dutch Wrote:
    unitedmajority Wrote: Bread and show, is how the Roman system controlled the masses. It is how our system controls us today, food stamps(along with Obama phones and other government hand outs) being the bread of today, the war(s) being our show. War has been entertaining America for over a decade now, keeping us from seeing the truth about the system. Just how the Roman system was setting their majority up for a fall for money, thus the end of the Romans, our system is leading America's majority down the exact foot prints with the exact same tactic as Rome.

    Look at the new scene in the show, Gates who happens to be old defense secretary, has America talking like gossiping girls about war, with more people than ever backing more war, crazy for sure. The world has many other important needs, war is something no one needs, except for show.
    Yes you see the picture as it is; however as many of us already said; money and prestige is the real war maker. Sorry to say it is too late to change course, the damage has been done and keeps on going. Instead of reducing our forces and CIA personel, we are increasing such worldwide.

    You are right, the Gates bomb keeps the show alive and kicking, I just heard someone saying the war in Afghanistan is winnable. Sure it is, if we wanted to take it over and make it a part of America, but that is not going to happen, so the war is just another Vietnam, a war the majority lost but the money system won, hmm, maybe that is what they meant when they said the war was winnable, winnable for the money system?
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    It is horrible that Gates decided NOW was a good time to write a book which basically attacked the President for his foreign policy and all of the successful things Obama has done for the last FIVE years. That book is obviously "politically motivated" so as to help the Republican nominee of the next election win, & to weaken the Democratic Party's chances of success. It should be considered slanderous and a betrayal of trust. I feel so sorry for Obama, because he should have NEVER trusted a Republican in ANY position of power in his administration, but Obama is a nice decent man, without any ruthless cunning in his soul, and a true Christian. As a true Christian, he would be more likely to think like a Pacifist, which means to AVOID WAR, and to STOP wars that already exist. (A Christian believes in Jesus, who was born the Prince of PEACE) & we are then duty bound to act against war. War is nothing but institutionalized murder. Obama got us OUT of IRAQ, & also went out to capture bin Laden, who was "accused to be" the huge Terrorist of 9/11, the one that George Bush insisted we fight a TWELVE YEAR WAR against. How many $billions did we waste on THAT war? And how many US soldiers died, & lost their limbs & their minds over? How many fortunes wasted, and lives destroyed over that stupid war? It was total abomination. Bush fans are fond of saying "God wanted "W" to be President" --- but I beg to differ. If God wanted Bush to be Prez, we would not have been wasting so much $$ & military lives, on such a stupid useless unwinnable war, because God would have helped WIN it much sooner. It obviously was not a big priority to God, since it immediately reverted to exactly the same way it was BEFORE 9/11, the way it had always been, the Sunnis & Shiites battling each other for centuries. Saddam Hussein (who our CIA put into power) knew how to keep order among them, & basically understood that whole conflict, & was trying to modernize Iraq. But we managed to KILL HIM easily enough, while the evil guys are still pretty much alive. Bush needed for Saddam to die, so the US could get by stealing the oil out of Iraq, & while doing that, to bomb & destroy the PEACE PALACE that Saddam had built out of white marble, with huge marble white doves flying on the inner walls. ALL of this was done for WMD (weapons) that never did exist over there, & were just a figment of Bush & Cheney's imagination. A deliberate misinformation device to lure the United States into a war, so neo-cons could benefit from all their investments in the Middle East oil cartel. Meanwhile the REAL "terrorists" of 9/11 went totally scott free.

    We United States citizens got robbed of our national treasure, thousands of soldiers maimed & crippled, or died, & our economy went bankrupt. And while Cheney & pals all got richer, I don't see them "sharing the wealth" with US citizens who "paid for" (with our taxes) & fought that war. NO. They OWE US, BIG TIME. But what did they do for us? After robbing us of trillions of dollars, & thousands of lives? The greedy bastards want to ROB us of our Social Security, & even our Health Care, and our Food Stamps, & anything they can get their filthy hands on. Oh, I forgot to mention that IRAQ, (which we have committed several War Crimes in bombing it), is specifically identified in the Bible [Genesis 2: 8-16] as the Garden of Eden. So the US has not only bombed an innocent nation which never attacked us at 9/11, but also never did have any WMD either. But just to make this even WORSE, we have bombed the Garden of Eden, the place where God created Adam & Eve, & was the birthplace of all humanity. All of this total disaster is thanks to Prez George W. Bush (#43). And all his glorious neo-con Republican loyalists. ---- And yet, many GOP still believe that "God wanted Geo W to be President?" Ha Ha Ha (Only a mindless neanderthal would believe that).

    So NOW a loyal Bush fan, (Robt Gates) dares to write a book slamming President Obama for ending the Iraq War (as a true follower of Jesus Christ would do) & for capturing "terrorist" bin Laden, & for seeking peaceful solutions to Syria & Iran, & for seeking a way to balance our US budget, (& protect us from idiot GOP trying to shut down our govt). Secretary Gates DARES to criticize a wonderful moral man with courage & brilliant ideas, and has done almost miracles to help America in the face of unprecedented obstruction by infiltrating Tea Partiers in our Govt, trying every day to undermine & destroy our Democracy. GOD BLESS PRESIDENT OBAMA.
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    eternal flame,
    The gates bomb is just that, a bomb, nothing good comes from a bomb. The proof is on American lips, spitting words of a winnable war lol, no ones majority wins ANYTHING good in war. Yes the system needed to even the odds a bit, the Democrats were getting to strong in the majority's eyes, so the system has to bring them down, Gates is just one of their many tools for this, of course all the system tools are brought to us by Hitler media, our media of today.

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    EF, I think you're giving God too much credit here. She's too busy fighting Lucifer to save our butts!

    i have to remind you Obama has brought an awful lot of his problems on himself. He, most certainly, was the best Candidate in the past two elections, but that's not saying much! Can you imagine ths country being run by warmonger McCain with psyco Sarah at his side or, god forgive McCain joining that big navy in the sky and Palin becoming POTHUS or Romney/Ryan rewarding their 1% owners by giving the 100% ownership of the country!

    Obama set the bar high but he hasn't been able to get over it yet. I think when candidate Obama was first running for office he really believed what he said but he was (and still is) poorly prepared to be a leader because of his aloofness and inability to deal with his peers on any kind of personal level. Your god hasn't blessed us or him yet - time will tell but I'm not holding my breath.
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    pr Wrote: EF, I think you're giving God too much credit here. She's too busy fighting Lucifer to save our butts!

    i have to remind you Obama has brought an awful lot of his problems on himself. He, most certainly, was the best Candidate in the past two elections, but that's not saying much! Can you imagine ths country being run by warmonger McCain with psyco Sarah at his side or, god forgive McCain joining that big navy in the sky and Palin becoming POTHUS or Romney/Ryan rewarding their 1% owners by giving the 100% ownership of the country!

    Obama set the bar high but he hasn't been able to get over it yet. I think when candidate Obama was first running for office he really believed what he said but he was (and still is) poorly prepared to be a leader because of his aloofness and inability to deal with his peers on any kind of personal level. Your god hasn't blessed us or him yet - time will tell but I'm not holding my breath.
    E.F. sorry to say "god's" do not start wars; christians do and muslims under themselves; no one from outerspace is producing war equipment either and selling it here. So stop your ignorance; again, "bibles, wars, money, greed" are all solely human created things; your imaginary "god" has no bankaccount here and did not shop at Target either or has an arsenal of AK 47's.
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    This what happens when voters vote with their hearts and emotions and allow the Media to sway votes, rather than be informed of any flaws in his character or his inexperience in governing, the media was more intent on the historical significance of electing the first black man to be President, forgetting also the fact that he was and is bi-racial, than allowing for the electors to chose for them selves the candidate most able to govern because in their minds (the Media), voters can't always be expected to do what they ,again the media, feel and know is the right thing.
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    We can only hope that experience, qualifications, and common sense count more than political correctness in the next presidential election, unlike 2008.
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    jamesn Wrote: We can only hope that experience, qualifications, and common sense count more than political correctness in the next presidential election, unlike 2008.
    "Hope?" I guess not sufficient; the cards are already shaken; the "money" will determine that, not the brains. I guarantee whatever person is elected is subject to the same culture and games as now; so the lobbyists and big money will rule, unless we drastically change our capitalistic structure.
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    johnnycee Wrote: This what happens when voters vote with their hearts and emotions and allow the Media to sway votes, rather than be informed of any flaws in his character or his inexperience in governing, the media was more intent on the historical significance of electing the first black man to be President, forgetting also the fact that he was and is bi-racial, than allowing for the electors to chose for them selves the candidate most able to govern because in their minds (the Media), voters can't always be expected to do what they ,again the media, feel and know is the right thing.
    What !!!!!! While that sounds mighty racist, let me remind you what the alternative was..... John (I never met a war that I didn't like) McCain. Can you imagine where we'd be if we had that loser in charge. Or, 2nd time - Mit Romney ! I'm not thrilled with Mr. Obama's presidency at this point but I am positive either of those losers would have been much worse. I don't disagree with you too often but I think you swung and missed with this post. Hell McCain didn't even know how many houses he has. I bet either of these wealthy men would not have given the poor a second thought except when cutting all programs that allow them to survive.
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    I wonder who bribed Robt Gates to work on this book, so it was ready to release NOW? So it would do maximum damage while we are trying to get Syria out of the soup, and keep IRAN from starting a major nuke project, and to keep the Russian Olympics from becoming World War III. All this while historically dramatic Weather patterns are battering all our major cities & their airports. WOW, Obama probably wishes he had never heard of the word POTUS. At least I want to say HAPPY NEW YEAR, Mr. President, since we all understand the pressures & problems you have to battle every day, with very little privacy or time for relaxation. Nothing could have truly prepared you (or anybody else) for the insanity going on in the US Congress the last 5 years. Very unConstitutional actions going on there, with open "bribery" by Grover Norquist, to rule the votes of the GOP officials who were elected specifically to "represent WE the People" and NOT to play dummy manequins (or mere puppets) ruled by & bribed by the old GOP officials from the last GOP "unelected" Administration. I just can't imagine WHY there is not a law in force that would enable WE the people to throw them out, & probably put them in prison, for violation of their "oath of office" -- which is to represent US, & not take bribes & orders from the corrupt old groupies from yester-year. Corruption on such a grand scale actually amounts to a "coup d'etat" against our true govt, (democracy) & this is actually real TREASON. But things are now so complicated that it is like trying to separate Siamese twins. To figure out who is friend or foe, who is sincere & who is a mimic and parasite, and who is a genuine Benedict Arnold, (traitor to our govt).

    It is fairly easy to assume that the Tea Party is a 2nd generation version of the John Birch Society, (JBS - began in 1958, with Fred C. Koch, on the National Council), and now his sons (Charles & David Koch) are financing the Tea Party with Dad's fortune from the oil & petroleum industry, in Wichita, KS). There is some wild history of that oil business which needs further exploration. Some say that "daddy" Fred Koch went to Communist Russia (under Joseph Stalin) to get some training or capital, to begin his petro business, & then when he came back to the US, his business flourished here, & he started getting immediately prominent in the John Birch Society's operations. Keep in mind he went to "communist" Russia (under Stalin) to get his training or money, & then came back here to get involved with the John Birch Society? (A right-wing GOP orgn run by Robt Welch, that taught all their members that America was "not a democracy" and that the Founders never intended for it to be a democracy. (Which I have proved, several times, is FALSE). The JBS operates on a covert level, (secret meetings, etc) & many of their methods were considered "subversive" by the FBI. If you study it well, over a long time, it is fairly obvious that the JBS is actually a subversive group, dedicated to destroying the US govt (democracy), & then installing a govt which will rob us of our freedoms, & become closer to a fascist or communist govt. (It is possible that many of their members are unaware of the true intent of their group, & think it is "really an anti-communist group"). But the JBS is a Trojan Horse & uses people to gain control over our electoral system, & put their corrupt fanatic leaders into office. Once they get into power, they can often be discovered to be more communist than democratic in outlook, with fascist & cruel tendencies, violating all ethical standards of decency. As one recent article here said, "many people seem to have psychopathic tendencies, & they become popular with voters who admire strength & bravado in their leaders." Luckily, this time we have a (democratic) President Obama, who is clearly over-qualified. He can make very powerful intellectual speeches, but also speak with folksy humor, to inform the public at all levels. He is basically a MIRACLE. I think he has very high morals, & epic courage to take on this job at this time. ---- The alternatives are just unspeakable.
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    I noticed you kept God out your last post, nice of you for the atheist readers, you know your words of God burn their eyes just like a cross burns a vampires eyes lol but I am pretty sure this is true. You said there should be a law in place to fire corrupt politicians, and there is, it is called our constitution. Why do you think politicians of today want to change the constitution? The system knows the power sitting right under the majority's hands, the internet and the constitution, with these two powers we the people can be the power. Yes the system knows this and has taken drastic measures to keep the majority from using this power. The young internet and computer wise majority is or was the systems greatest threat, and the system took measures to impair the young majority of today, the system took pot out of the American kids hands and handed them legal synthetic system provided heroin. Pot wasn't a huge problem, but synthetic heroin is a "huge" problem for America. Heroin addicts aren't much of a threat to the system now are they?