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The Bridge Scandal That Just Won't Go Away

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is in full on crisis management mode after the bombshell revelation that one of his top aides was directly involved in the "traffic study" that brought commuters to a standstill on one of the busiest bridges in America. The Governor long denied that his administration had any involvement in the controversy, but that was all thrown out the window yesterday when emails showing Governor Christie's Deputy Chief of Staff Bridget Anne Kelly colluding with David Wildstein, one of Christie's top aide at the Port Authority, to wreak havoc on the highway because a Democratic mayor refused to endorse Christie in his reelection bid.

    While I understand that politics is a dirty business, the fact that a Governor or his top staff are willing to seek out retribution of that magnitude out of spite is absolutely shameful. Governor Christie has long been known as a bully since his days as a United States Attorney and he has gleefully carried that mantra into the Governors mansion with a vengeance. That all may be coming back to haunt him as this controversy unfolds and more information comes to light.

    What does everyone think of this controversy? Is this something that has the potential to sabotage the Governor's Presidential aspirations or will this just be a blip on the radar when and if he decides to run for higher office?
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Governor Christie just finished up a two hour long press-conference. You can read the full transcript HERE.
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    No. it won't sabotage any of his plans for higher office, mainly because he acted like a leader, he held people accountable, fired them I believe, so no matter how much the Christie haters want him gone, both Democrats and Republicans, he won't be gone, there is more coverage over this than the IRS scandal, the NSA scandal and lets not forget about Benghazi killing ground combined, although the Governor did what no one in this Presidential Administration has done so far, and that was to hold people accountable for their misdeeds, the GOP and the Democrats both, need to make this man go away, because he is a real threat to both parties. So allow these hypocrites in the press and the political pundits chose the way you should view this mess, and ask your self where were they in all of the previous scandals.
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    Johnnycee --

    If you think Christie has acted like a leader then your idea of a leader is different than mine. He is a class one bully that runs his organization with a iron hand.

    And if you believe all the debunked stories promoted by the Issa Kangaroo courts on Benghazi, IRS and NSA and just about everywhere Issa goes fishing, then you are putting your faith in a liar fisherman.
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    Johnny is right, he DID act like a leader. Have we heard the last of this affair, probably not, more details will come out. But if, and I repeat IF Christie was telling the truth this morning, he came out looking good.

    Point #1 This is not over.

    Point #2 His press conference was the opposite of an Obama press conference. He actually held people accountable and fired a person responsible, something which President Obama does NOT do. He holds NO ONE accountable at least as far as we can see. He also apologized, and said he'd go and apologize in person.

    Point #3 The media is going wild right now digging and snooping and trying desperately to find anything more negative about CC.

    Point #4 Even if this story is over and nothing else comes out and Christie had nothing to do with it some in the media will hammer him with this "crisis" until he is no longer a presidential threat.

    Point #5 the only reason that the media gives a rats behind about this is that Christie is seen as a threat to HRC. If not, no one outside of NY/NJ would care.

    Point #6 See Point #1.

    Neither side chould celebrate victory in this matter just yet, but of course some will. Premature celebration is what our media does.
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    Oh come on now! Christy telling the truth? He is nothing more than a lying, vicious con man. He knew he had to something to save his butt and that's all. He would/will say or do anything. He represents the worst of the worst of politicians and he has so much baggage that will start to come out in the next few months he will end up sinking in the NJ flats with the rest of the Mafia types. Even Mittens didn't want him!

    i would take the Clinton's or Obama over this classless sleaseball in a second and so will the rest of the country.
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    ..."a lying, vicious con man"... WOW! Sounds like the perfect description of a politician to me. Yes, I would say that just about all professional politicians in America are ..."lying and vicious and con men/women"...

    MSNBC has already been attacking Christie for some time and I'm sure this will only increase the intensity of those attacks. Just like Fox has been attacking Hillary for some time.

    Both sides attack their biggest threat. That always tells you who they are most scared of.
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    johnnycee Wrote: No. it won't sabotage any of his plans for higher office, mainly because he acted like a leader, he held people accountable, fired them I believe, so no matter how much the Christie haters want him gone, both Democrats and Republicans, he won't be gone, there is more coverage over this than the IRS scandal, the NSA scandal and lets not forget about Benghazi killing ground combined, although the Governor did what no one in this Presidential Administration has done so far, and that was to hold people accountable for their misdeeds, the GOP and the Democrats both, need to make this man go away, because he is a real threat to both parties. So allow these hypocrites in the press and the political pundits chose the way you should view this mess, and ask your self where were they in all of the previous scandals.
    Did you just claim that the media has spent more time on this one day old scandal than the IRS, NSA, and Benghazi "scandal's" combined? My goodness--Fox News has had 24/7 coverage of these "scandal's" for months and that is just one channel.

    Your claim that no one in the Administration was fired for these so called scandals is also incorrect. Lois Lerner, the acting IRS director at the time of their scandal was fired on 6/24/2013. The NSA "scandal" is a lot more complicated than anyone is willing to admit. Not just that, but who exactly are you calling on the President to fire at the NSA? There is a long chain of command that intertwines between multiple governmental agencies. And regarding the Benghazi "scandal"--what exact scandal is there? Are you claiming that the President willfully lied to the American people and purposefully allowed the American consulate to be over run?

    Regardless of all of these outlandish claims, I do agree that American's have terribly short memories and will likely forget about this long before the first ballot is cast in any Presidential primary.
  • Center Left
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    I was excited to hear about scandal for Christy but the whole damned story is just boring. It was traffic on a bridge.
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    jamesn Wrote: Johnny is right, he DID act like a leader. Have we heard the last of this affair, probably not, more details will come out. But if, and I repeat IF Christie was telling the truth this morning, he came out looking good.

    Point #1 This is not over.

    Point #2 His press conference was the opposite of an Obama press conference. He actually held people accountable and fired a person responsible, something which President Obama does NOT do. He holds NO ONE accountable at least as far as we can see. He also apologized, and said he'd go and apologize in person.

    Point #3 The media is going wild right now digging and snooping and trying desperately to find anything more negative about CC.

    Point #4 Even if this story is over and nothing else comes out and Christie had nothing to do with it some in the media will hammer him with this "crisis" until he is no longer a presidential threat.

    Point #5 the only reason that the media gives a rats behind about this is that Christie is seen as a threat to HRC. If not, no one outside of NY/NJ would care.

    Point #6 See Point #1.

    Neither side chould celebrate victory in this matter just yet, but of course some will. Premature celebration is what our media does.
    Point 1- I agree
    Point 2- I don't know if I totally agree. Who exactly should President Obama be firing and for what offense? Firing someone for the sake of firing is somewhat pointless.
    Point 3- That's what the 24/7 "media" does. They chase scandal and then talk about them endlessly for days or weeks at a time. Do you expect anything less?!
    Point 4- That's also what the "media" does. They thrive to take anyone down that they can. Politics is a blood sport and the media has just as much skin in it as politicians do.
    Point 5- I agree
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    Traffic on the bridge............stopping school buses and delaying ambulance services, where 91 year old died as a result of not getting help soon enough. I'm sure more will be told about this and the lawyers are lining up to take New Jersey to court. I am also in the belief that Christy has more knowledge than what he has told the public on this issue. Let the investigations begin, because we will see how fast Christy can run. That will be funny to watch.
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    jared glad that you agree with me on at least some of my thoughts.

    #2 Do you not think that someone should be held accountable/fired for Benghazi, NSA, IRS scandal, the Justice Dept investigating journalists, the Obamacare web site not working, and other issues? Not one firing? Even on the web site which has hurt his presidency more than anything so far? Not one? Sebilious should have been gone for incompetence and/or lying to her boss and the American people. Was she that stupid or did she not know, or did she not care? I think she did not care because she knew she worked for a boss who would not hold her accountable.

    #3/4 glad we share the same view.

    amc glad you agree with me that the investigations should be allowed to proceed and actions will and should be based on what they reveal.

    Maybe, just maybe, Christie believes in accountability. I wish our president did.
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    Schmidt Wrote: Johnnycee --

    If you think Christie has acted like a leader then your idea of a leader is different than mine. He is a class one bully that runs his organization with a iron hand.

    And if you believe all the debunked stories promoted by the Issa Kangaroo courts on Benghazi, IRS and NSA and just about everywhere Issa goes fishing, then you are putting your faith in a liar fisherman.
    If you think he didn't act like leader because he didn't blame the prior office holder, or have a spokesperson come out to explain his actions, or because he actually held someone accountable, then your right I don't know what leadership is, and as for being a bully, why do you think they call the presidential lectern the "Bully Pulpit", and concerning the IRS, if it's debunked why did Ms. Lerner need to invoke her Fifth Amendment Rights in a non-criminal matter and secure a Lawyer, where's there's smoke ETC., the same as the NSA, we are not looking we are just gathering information just in case we need it. sure, believe that, then I got a slighty used bridge to sell you, and of course there is Benghazi, nothing happened there other than one American Consulate destroyed along with the American Ambassador and I worker and 2 CIA operatives murdered, this was an attack that took anywhere from 4 hours to 24 hours to end, reams of classified documents lost, and over 18 hours after the attack ended that we the US of A had any kind of response, and according to one of the presidential candidates " what does it matter now", oh right, she was the Former Sec. of State showing off her leadership skills. Fact finding boards are not kangaroo courts as you called them, only the answers given or in some cases not given show any hopping around the truth.
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    pr Wrote: Oh come on now! Christy telling the truth? He is nothing more than a lying, vicious con man. He knew he had to something to save his butt and that's all. He would/will say or do anything. He represents the worst of the worst of politicians and he has so much baggage that will start to come out in the next few months he will end up sinking in the NJ flats with the rest of the Mafia types. Even Mittens didn't want him!

    i would take the Clinton's or Obama over this classless sleaseball in a second and so will the rest of the country.
    I never said that Christie was telling the truth or not, merely saying that he acted like a leader by holding people in his charge accountable, all politicians are experienced con men, some more vicious then others and they all learn the first rule of office holding the day before taking office, Cover Your Ass. Now show me an honest politician and I'll point out to you a world class con man.
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: No. it won't sabotage any of his plans for higher office, mainly because he acted like a leader, he held people accountable, fired them I believe, so no matter how much the Christie haters want him gone, both Democrats and Republicans, he won't be gone, there is more coverage over this than the IRS scandal, the NSA scandal and lets not forget about Benghazi killing ground combined, although the Governor did what no one in this Presidential Administration has done so far, and that was to hold people accountable for their misdeeds, the GOP and the Democrats both, need to make this man go away, because he is a real threat to both parties. So allow these hypocrites in the press and the political pundits chose the way you should view this mess, and ask your self where were they in all of the previous scandals.
    Did you just claim that the media has spent more time on this one day old scandal than the IRS, NSA, and Benghazi "scandal's" combined? My goodness--Fox News has had 24/7 coverage of these "scandal's" for months and that is just one channel.

    Your claim that no one in the Administration was fired for these so called scandals is also incorrect. Lois Lerner, the acting IRS director at the time of their scandal was fired on 6/24/2013. The NSA "scandal" is a lot more complicated than anyone is willing to admit. Not just that, but who exactly are you calling on the President to fire at the NSA? There is a long chain of command that intertwines between multiple governmental agencies. And regarding the Benghazi "scandal"--what exact scandal is there? Are you claiming that the President willfully lied to the American people and purposefully allowed the American consulate to be over run?

    Regardless of all of these outlandish claims, I do agree that American's have terribly short memories and will likely forget about this long before the first ballot is cast in any Presidential primary.
    Lois Lerner was not fired but reassigned with no loss in pay and she retired with the needed time to maximize her pension when the time was up, , and a similar thing with the IRS supervisor, but she got promoted instead, not enough pension time for her yet, who should the President fire? well to start with ,the NSA Director, unless of course he really didn't know what was going on, and if you look at the intensity of this bridge- gate scandal, then yes the main stream media has prosecuted this story more than the IRS and NSA, and also Benghazi stories, and correct if I am wrong but Fox News was more concerned about the lies (Video) and the withholding of information about the event and the Blasé attitude from the White House than the scandals themselves. If the President had acted like a leader and held people responsible and accountable for their actions ,then we wouldn't be having this chat.