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Electric cars by 2015 ?

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  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    http://news.msn.com/science-technology/toyotas-new-hydrogen-car-to-emit-only-water-vapor

    Here's an interesting story about Toyota selling an Electric car by 2015. 2 other auto companies are on pace to release their versions the same year.
    Sounds like progress is being made and no pollution either. WOW.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    And how would these cars be re-charged, by carbon fueled turbines?, the only pollution would be so many sitting idle by the side of the road, waiting on a re-charge. Also if there is global warming and the cold intensifies how would we keep the batteries from losing their charge, if you don't have a garage and of course your own re-charging station.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    johnnycee Wrote: And how would these cars be re-charged, by carbon fueled turbines?, the only pollution would be so many sitting idle by the side of the road, waiting on a re-charge. Also if there is global warming and the cold intensifies how would we keep the batteries from losing their charge, if you don't have a garage and of course your own re-charging station.
    Sorry to say but batteries remain a problem; it is quite simple a battery is a not self producing form of energy unless you put energy into it; since it is interaction of either chemicals and metals or other substances, it will just like your phone or watch battery eventually deteriorate. Batteries for the Tesla are about as expensive as a small Toyota; also these batteries can not be repaired as any piston/gas powered vehicle. For instance it is easy to restore a 1950 car anytime, while the electric one will be way too costly to do that with simple hand tools. So I wonder what will be the life span of a Tesla?
  • Liberal
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    Many people were fearful of having electric lights in their homes at one time but they seem to be quite pleased to utilize them today!
  • Democrat
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    Batteries are indeed a toxic issue in our landfills around America. How long do you think it takes for a "AAA", "AA", "C", "D" cell and all those Lithium batteries take to recombine into the environment? As I understand they do not, but disrupt the balance of nature due to toxic chemicals, lead, and heavy metals. Although many car batteries can be recycled, you still see these batteries (chemicals & Lead) in landfills. I assume that newer batteries in place for electric cars are recycled, but what happens when an electric car wreck occurs and the car in totally smashed and sits in a scrap yard for decades? All those batteries leaking toxic waste into the ground.

    I like the idea of Tesla ancient designs for harnessing power. I don't think he had any batteries. So what happen to Tesla? He has a mysterious history and I would like to think that maybe one day Tesla drops by in our time period.
  • Liberal
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    Tesla had all his discovers stolen from him by Edison.

    Hydrogen power is most likely what the future holds. How do you think all those aliens got to Earth ?
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    pr Wrote: Tesla had all his discovers stolen from him by Edison.

    Hydrogen power is most likely what the future holds. How do you think all those aliens got to Earth ?
    Are all gifted inventors like Nick Tesla seriously insane, I remember reading about him awhile ago, he died broke.
  • Other Party
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    Tony good information from Toyota about the future. The DISTANT future for most of us.

    I'm all for hydrogen cars like I'm all for electric cars but they aren't going to be feasible for most of us for decades. Only 20 hydrogen refueling stations by next year and 100 by 2024? All or most of them in central and southern California by the sound of it and that's not going to help about 99 percent of us. Plus cars to cost 50-100K so that's a little pricey and no mention of how much it will cost to fuel up on Hydrogen.

    I'm for them, but they're so far in the future that it is irrelevant to most of us.

    Same with electric cars, which are a good idea but very limited by their range. Limited range and LONG charging times mean they aren't practical for most of us either.

    Hybrid cars are the only real choice now and for the near future.

    In other automotive news for 2015: Chinese cars are almost here. You think Wal Mart sells us lots of Chinese made junk? Wait until you hear this:


    CHINESE CARS IN RACE TO U.S. DEBUT
    Buffet-backed BYD plans to launch four models in '15
    The story is by Tian Ying and Chua Kong Ho of Bloomberg News

    "Chinese cars are poised to begin hitting U.S. showrooms by as soon as next year. BYD Co., the Chinese automaker backed by Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway Inc., plans to introduce about four models for its U.S debut at the end of 2015..."

    I've never heard of BYD cars but I have heard of Warren Buffet so it sounds like they're coming and soon.
  • Center Left
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    Sure, we need the infrastructure to build refueling stations for this to work. But, unlike a typical Tesla, Toyota says refueling will take 3 - 5 minutes. Honda and Hyundai are also expected to release this type of car in 2015. I would expect they all have spent money researching the feasibility of these working. We'll see but I'm hopeful because it would clean up the air quite a bit.
  • Other Party
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    Any idea how much it would cost to refuel? I'm all for non polluting vehicles, but where's the gas station and how much to fill up and what mileage would I get?

    I have no idea how far from my town to the nearest place to get hydrogen.

    Interesting concept but there are lots of questions.

    Natural gas powered vehicles and fueling stations are a new thing that I have heard about in my area, but not hydrogen.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    We need the "flux capacitor". The movie Back to the Future shows a car that eats garbage. We can service the world by feeding crap from Congress.
  • Democrat
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: We need the "flux capacitor". The movie Back to the Future shows a car that eats garbage. We can service the world by feeding crap from Congress.


    You mean some type of methane gas?
  • Independent
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    johnnycee Wrote: And how would these cars be re-charged, by carbon fueled turbines?, the only pollution would be so many sitting idle by the side of the road, waiting on a re-charge. Also if there is global warming and the cold intensifies how would we keep the batteries from losing their charge, if you don't have a garage and of course your own re-charging station.
    Only the GOP would use turbines to power these cars, the rest of the majority will be using silver free air and water pollution free solar power., get informed please, these same old same old old GOP arguments against electric cars is getting very very very old and upsetting to the majority that is informed.
  • Liberal
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    Not much incentive to try and sell "almost free fuel" that I know of by, esprcially by the "job creators".

    The American way is to buy (create) low and sell high. That's one reason the government, i.e. Congress doesn't really care about illegal immigration. Low paid, uneducated, undocumented workers provide high profits for capitalist who in turn can afford to buy the best politicians money can buy so they may become even more wealthy. I think the term is called "Trickle UP economics".
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: We need the "flux capacitor". The movie Back to the Future shows a car that eats garbage. We can service the world by feeding crap from Congress.
    May be we can use the military and Pentagon waste as fuel; then we can drive our cars for free for centuries!!!