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    The last perfect man was Jesus Christ, and look what they did to him, not exactly a good incentive to being perfect.
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    Schmidt,
    Good article, much info. Thanks for posting it. The drug war costs us zillions of dollars and never came close to putting a dent in overall usage. I would expect the tax revenues will cause more states to think about it. But only if CO, WA, can get started without big problems. I believe Portugal has legalized and their society hasn't crumbled yet.
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    johnnycee Wrote: The last perfect man was Jesus Christ, and look what they did to him, not exactly a good incentive to being perfect.
    Wow, did you know the guy? So every "rebel" is perfect? I guess the Romans did not think so, neither do I.
    Since "it"was a normal human being born and created like any baby on this planet, it certainly did have all the human characteristics including the bad and the good; since this person never wrote anything himself, it is difficult to judge if he had a bad character or not; mistreating donkey's perhaps?
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    Tony you say ..."The drug war costs us zillions of dollars and never came close to putting a dent in overall usage."...

    Same thing can be said for the "War on Poverty". After "zillions" have been spent/wasted, the poverty rate is higher now than when started 50 years ago.

    Both are shining examples of huge out-of-control government programs.
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    Dutch Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: The last perfect man was Jesus Christ, and look what they did to him, not exactly a good incentive to being perfect.
    Wow, did you know the guy? So every "rebel" is perfect? I guess the Romans did not think so, neither do I.
    Since "it"was a normal human being born and created like any baby on this planet, it certainly did have all the human characteristics including the bad and the good; since this person never wrote anything himself, it is difficult to judge if he had a bad character or not; mistreating donkey's perhaps?
    I am speaking from a Christian viewpoint, not a disbeliever's reference, Jesus Christ, in the eyes of Christians was perfect and without sin, and according to Hebrew prophets was the Messiah that became man, tangible proof, other than my Faith and belief in the Bible ,I have none.
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    jamesn Wrote: Tony you say ..."The drug war costs us zillions of dollars and never came close to putting a dent in overall usage."...

    Same thing can be said for the "War on Poverty". After "zillions" have been spent/wasted, the poverty rate is higher now than when started 50 years ago.

    Both are shining examples of huge out-of-control government programs.
    Difference is nobody wants to be in Poverty. So, sadly that may have been wasted money. Much of the drug war was wasted money because of what we see in CO and WA today. Not to mention the use (which I equate to drinking beer) around the country. I do agree with the efforts to stop more serious drugs.
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    jamesn Wrote: Tony you say ..."The drug war costs us zillions of dollars and never came close to putting a dent in overall usage."...

    Same thing can be said for the "War on Poverty". After "zillions" have been spent/wasted, the poverty rate is higher now than when started 50 years ago.

    Both are shining examples of huge out-of-control government programs.
    Here's an article of interest from the Center for American Progress regarding the War on Poverty.

    The War on Poverty: Then and Now

    I'll extract a few lines that speak for themselves:

    "Soon after President Johnson declared his commitment to end poverty, Congress passed the bipartisan Economic Opportunity Act of 1964 and critical civil rights legislation, which created the legislative framework to expand economic opportunity through anti-poverty, health, education, and employment policies. Throughout the Johnson and Nixon administrations, the War on Poverty—and the Great Society more broadly—laid the foundation for our modern-day safety net, including the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, formerly known as food stamps; Medicare; Medicaid; Head Start; and expanded Social Security.

    "These and other programs with roots in the War on Poverty have kept millions of families out of poverty, made college education more accessible, and put the American Dream within reach for those living on society’s margins. Our national poverty rate fell 42 percent during the War on Poverty, from 1964 to 1973. And that trend continues today: The poverty rate fell from 26 percent in 1967 to 16 percent in 2012 when safety net programs are taken into account."

    "The War on Poverty has not failed us, but our economy has."
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    ..."The war on poverty has not failed us, but our economy has"...

    Wrong! The war on poverty HAS failed us, and our economy is a failure, too. Sad but true.

    Question: Which state had the highest poverty rate in 2012? Alabama, South Carolina, or New York (See answer below)

    Since President Obama took office 13 million (13 million!) Americans have become dependent on food stamps (SNAP). When he is called "The Food Stamp President" unfortunately he deserves the title.

    The "War on Poverty" has been called Americas longest war, as well as one of its most unsuccessful.

    New Hampshire has the lowest poverty rate at under 8% while Mississippi has the highest at over 21%.

    There's no doubt that all the public assistance hand out programs help many people and it's just as true that they hurt many people by making them reliant on the government instead of themselves. Some people can't provide for themselves, and some refuse to provide for themselves. The more that government hands out to some people get the more unlikely they are to try to become self reliant.

    Answer: New York according to yahoo.com Surprised?
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    One would think that employers should treat marijuana use like they do alcohol, don't come to work under the influence. I agree with you that Colorado and Washington could've been the forbearers for common sense gun control. I believe strongly that people kill people not guns. So I think they should have background checks for all gun purchases as well as yearly mental evaluations. If you want to own a gun than you should have to go through training first and foremost and be held accountable for each every weapon that is purchased. There are too many stories out there about children who get a hold of their parents guns and we know the end result.

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    President Obama was given the name "Food Stamp President" by the right to fool those less informed. The fact is that the previous administration left our country in peril for those of you who forgot. The problem is that the right has been nothing but a stumbling block for this administration. They say no and filibuster everything to stymie the economy and then blame the slow recovery on our president. Doesn't that click with you? Despite all that the economy is much better now than it was under Bush. Whether you agree or not the truth of the matter is the states with the highest percentage of poverty happen to be controlled by a republican governor and republican assembly that are more focused on restricting votes and attacking women's right to choose. I'm sure your right about some people taking advantage of welfare like big corporations that get away with paying no taxes, while recording record profits and counting on government subsidies to "create so called jobs". These are jobs that don't pay much for that matter. Why is it that most low wage earners have to look to welfare to make ends meet? Could it be that their bosses don't pay livable wage. I know, these people should've went to school and it's their own fault , right? So what does that say about all those college grads who can't find a job right now? For thirty years we have seen the price of living going up but stagnant wages. The war on poverty is just that. Keep the poor and reap the benefits of their suffering in terms of profits.

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    Welcome, Good insights. I look forward to your contributions.
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    Schmidt Wrote:
    jamesn Wrote: Tony you say ..."The drug war costs us zillions of dollars and never came close to putting a dent in overall usage."...

    Same thing can be said for the "War on Poverty". After "zillions" have been spent/wasted, the poverty rate is higher now than when started 50 years ago.

    Both are shining examples of huge out-of-control government programs.
    Here's an article of interest from the Center for American Progress regarding the War on Poverty.

    The War on Poverty: Then and Now

    I'll extract a few lines that speak for themselves:

    "Soon after President Johnson declared his commitment to end poverty, Congress passed the bipartisan Economic Opportunity Act of 1964 and critical civil rights legislation, which created the legislative framework to expand economic opportunity through anti-poverty, health, education, and employment policies. Throughout the Johnson and Nixon administrations, the War on Poverty—and the Great Society more broadly—laid the foundation for our modern-day safety net, including the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, formerly known as food stamps; Medicare; Medicaid; Head Start; and expanded Social Security.

    "These and other programs with roots in the War on Poverty have kept millions of families out of poverty, made college education more accessible, and put the American Dream within reach for those living on society’s margins. Our national poverty rate fell 42 percent during the War on Poverty, from 1964 to 1973. And that trend continues today: The poverty rate fell from 26 percent in 1967 to 16 percent in 2012 when safety net programs are taken into account."

    "The War on Poverty has not failed us, but our economy has."
    I find it interesting that the GOP started all the entitlement programs that they bitch about today, how ironic the GOP really is.
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    http://www.today.com/money/pot-buyers-add-more-1m-colorado-tax-coffers-2D12035047?ocid=msnhp&pos=7

    P O T Marijuana

    1st months tax revenues are being calculated. It's estimated that additional tax revenue could total 100 million this year. I hope that
    goes to pay for a lot of important programs. To me it sounds like a win/win situation. Some sellers are suggesting that they could sell
    much more if they could get the product.
    The first 40 million is said to be for building new schools.
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    jamesn Wrote: Zach and amc just for the sake of argument/discussion let's say that an employee, lets call him Mr Stoner lives in a city in Colorado where marijuana is legal but works in a city in Colorado or another neighboring state where marijuana is still illegal. Marijuana use is forbidden by his employer but he tests positive after an "incident" or "accident" on his job?

    What then?

    I can envision it happening, and also the lawsuits that ensue. A lawyer for the "guilty" employee, let's call him Mr Scumbag, could argue that it was totally legal for him to partake of the "product" in his home, and during his off work hours.
    Any employer can restrict marijuana use in the terms of employment