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payback for higher min. wage.

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  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    Has anyone seen the story about the sub shop owner, Snarfs Sub Shop whose employee's (20) shut down his shop for 4 days protesting for a higher minimum wage, who now has terminated everyone of employee's so that he can remodel and reconstruct his Sub Shop, he advised them all that if eligible for Unemployment ,they should do so, and he wished them all good luck in their future endevours, the effective date of the termination 12/23/13, the group that was supporting the strike has filed an appeal of his actions. What do you guys think of this??
  • Liberal
    Independent
    Durham, NH
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    It's been proven over and over when you treat your employees with respect and pay them fairly for their labor it comes back to you in the form of higher productivity and efficiency and thus profits. Many employers are to greedy and stupid to understand this. I know a few pizza & sandwich shop owners personally and I can assure you that they are rolling in the bucks and live very well, in large part, thanks to the way the treat and pay their help.

    As someone who ran his own business for over 40 years I can assure you I always made more profit by hiring people who felt as if they were being paid fairly for their labor than some of my competitors who felt they had to hire the cheapest and pay the least to get ahead make a profit.

    Feel free to come to your own conclusions concerning this particular guy. I suspect he is his own worst enemy, however, not his underpaid help!
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    pgr yes agree we again and this has got to stop!

    Treat your employees with respect and pay a fair wage and the employer will usually come out far ahead.

    In this case I don't know how he treated his employees or how well he paid them. He may have been more than fair with them or he may have treated them like dog crap. They may have been ..."underpaid help"... or maybe not. Either way they went out and protested and he terminated them. So it does seem that they chose to inflict this upon themselves. If the employer broke they law they can take legal action, otherwise they should shut up and look for another job.

    Hopefully someone in this equation learned a lesson.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I imagine that this guy is not a franchise operator and maybe this is his only store/shop, which gives me mixed emotions about this, is the shop owner responsible for the employee's standard of living? Would the high school student employee be paid the same as other employee's who have more responsibility such as rent and children, considering that this guy is well under the ACA mandate for enrollment (20 employees) so medical care doesn't seem to be the issue, is there a some sort of tacit agreement that the shop owner is only allowed to make xx amount of profit, after which the profits go to the employee's benefit? Some small business owners do work close to the vest, and other's exploit their workers to make a profit, so how can you make broad mandate that would ruin some and on the hand other help others. If the employment picture wasn't so bleak as it is now, would this even be an issue
  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    Typically Johnny is the key word. How many sandwich/pizza shops gave you ever seen close down? Not many where I live (the exception being poor location to begin with). The reality is, no matter how dull and boring a sandwich shop may be as compared to a real restaurant , they are typically gold mines for the owners. Of course the owners put in long hours typically but if they have even a semi-high traffic location, they are licenses to steal! My son is in the business, I know.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    pr Wrote: Typically Johnny is the key word. How many sandwich/pizza shops gave you ever seen close down? Not many where I live (the exception being poor location to begin with). The reality is, no matter how dull and boring a sandwich shop may be as compared to a real restaurant , they are typically gold mines for the owners. Of course the owners put in long hours typically but if they have even a semi-high traffic location, they are licenses to steal! My son is in the business, I know.
    I will concede to your experience in this type of business, although I do not think that any employer is responsible for his employee's standard of living, unless the Nation changes from Capitalism to some type of a communal society then this owner is under no obligation to ensure his worker a livable wage, so if for no other reason than being just a decent human being ,this employer is off the hook as far as him closing his business for whatever pretense .
  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    Hey JC, I'm not arguing with you. I just have no sympathy for the guy either. I suspect if and when he re-opens with a new staff and if he treats them as he did the old one he won't really have solved any of his problems.