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Congress Passes First Federal Buget in Years

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    For the first time since 2009, the United States Congress has done its job and passed a Federal Budget. The agreement attracted nine Republicans in the Senate, but the low number was expected. Democrats easily had the 51 votes to pass the budget, which gave Republicans the ability to vote against it without being accused of thwarting the passage of the first compromise budget in a half decade.

    Republicans have hammered Democrats for not passing a budget for multiple years, and some of their arguments did have validity to them. The left couldn't agree on a multitude of things when they were in the majority in both houses and the Republicans weren't about to help them at all. With most of the conservative Democrats long gone, they are finally beginning to speak in a unified voice.

    I will be the first to admit that I do not like this budget compromise very much, but it is something that had to be done if we were to begin to move on from the seemingly endless fiscal battles that have hamstrung Obama's presidency. I feel it gives far too much to the right without getting many Democratic priorities in return. The military is getting more money and an unemployment benefit extension was not included. It upsets me that we continue to shell out billions upon billions to our military while cutting funding that will help average citizens survive. On the other hand, the sequestration cuts have already wreaked a heavy toll on the poor and not passing a budget would have kept those devastating cuts ad infinitum.

    What does everyone think of today's vote? Is it a good thing that we have finally passed a Federal Budget or would it have been better to have no agreement at all?
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    Congress is still way behind passing legislation as compared to previous Congressional years. I believe it is directly related to the average hours our representatives are spending "working", and "earning their Pay" to the number of bills being voted on. I'll hold any praise on this Congress for passing a budget. It may be a start, but lets see, immigration reform, voter ID legislation and voter rights legislation, minimum wage increases, continued improvement to Affordable Care Act and bringing our troops home and changes to foreign policy. Let's see some real work this year. I'll add strong restriction in political candidate campaign funds which, also makes a requirement that all campaign funds be provided for public knowledge.

    It will always be a do-nothing Congress until they start working for the public and not just the 1%.

    Just the other day I got an email from a representative named Joe Heck, R-Nev. What the hell, I'm in Missouri. He wanted me to give my two cents on what's wrong with America's values. I'm still thinking about that subject and why his staff sent me a request for information. I even did a Wikipedia on Joe Heck to find out who this person is. Maybe he sent me this request knowing whatever I say I can't damage him for a non vote. Congress is ??????????
  • Center Left Democrat
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    Flagstaff, AZ
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    Jared:


    Compromise has been sadly lacking in recent years in Congress, so it's encouraging that SOMETHING finally got passed. The fact that neither side is completely happy means that it was a good compromise.

    What's very encouraging to me is that John Boehner finally stood up to the Tea Party. As a result, there should be enough dissension in the Republican Party for the next few years to enable the Democratic Party to make gains where it counts, specifically in the House of Representatives and in some gubernatorial races.

    http://news.yahoo.com/boehner-tea-party-rant-182952968.html

    The reaction of the ultra conservatives to Boehner's new position is predictable, and somewhat comical:

    http://personalliberty.com/2013/12/19/john-boehner-must-go-heres-why/


    As far as Joe Heck goes, I have no idea why his staff is contacting people who don't live in his district. A quick review of his bio tells me that he would be too conservative to get my vote.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Heck
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    jaredsxtn Wrote: For the first time since 2009, the United States Congress has done its job and passed a Federal Budget. The agreement attracted nine Republicans in the Senate, but the low number was expected. Democrats easily had the 51 votes to pass the budget, which gave Republicans the ability to vote against it without being accused of thwarting the passage of the first compromise budget in a half decade.

    Republicans have hammered Democrats for not passing a budget for multiple years, and some of their arguments did have validity to them. The left couldn't agree on a multitude of things when they were in the majority in both houses and the Republicans weren't about to help them at all. With most of the conservative Democrats long gone, they are finally beginning to speak in a unified voice.

    I will be the first to admit that I do not like this budget compromise very much, but it is something that had to be done if we were to begin to move on from the seemingly endless fiscal battles that have hamstrung Obama's presidency. I feel it gives far too much to the right without getting many Democratic priorities in return. The military is getting more money and an unemployment benefit extension was not included. It upsets me that we continue to shell out billions upon billions to our military while cutting funding that will help average citizens survive. On the other hand, the sequestration cuts have already wreaked a heavy toll on the poor and not passing a budget would have kept those devastating cuts ad infinitum.

    What does everyone think of today's vote? Is it a good thing that we have finally passed a Federal Budget or would it have been better to have no agreement at all?
    Sorry to say it is totally pathetic!!! I guess they are totally bowing for the Pentagon; they are the real bullies who always get their way.
    A very sick country for sure.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    A Continuing Resolution is a budget.

    They haven't passed an omnibus budget bill.

    If there were no budget, how could federal agencies spend anything?

    A budget is a self-imposed constraint. It's a way of organizing spending.

    The way we organize the budget assumes other self-imposed constraints. Such as budget deficits are bad, the government is like a household, etc.

    So the CBO scores the budget based on how it impacts the gov't fiscal balance.

    What they should be doing is measuring the impact on unemployment and inflation, and letting the deficit float as is appropriate to achieve the goals of full employment AND price stability.

    Gov't deficit=non-government surplus.

    The currency issuer is like a scorekeeper. It cannot run out of numbers to put on the scorecard. For the issuer, the problem is never solvency. For users, the problem is very much solvency. That's what makes them users, so to speak. They don't have the printing press.

    And what gets the currency accepted is tax enforcement, enabling the gov't to be a scorekeeper and administrator for the public sector.

    It's a simple point of logic that the issuer must spend the currency first before it can collect revenue from the users.
  • Democrat
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    Considering that this so-called Budget Plan does nothing to reduce the national Debt, or slow down the growth of entitlement programs such as Medicare and Social Security that drives up the budget deficits plus other programs ,it doesn't even prevent another Government shut-down next year, but what it really does is ease up on the sequestration cuts and allows the GOP to gain a small foothold in the upcoming mid terms by not getting blamed for another shut-down, and it also gives the Government an additional $ 63 Billion for discretionary spending, half of which will go to, guess where , that's right ,the Defense Department, this is a joke another Dog and Pony Show from this kick the can down the road crowd in D.C. I am so disgusted with group ,I hope they all get canned, they cut the disability pensions for the veterans and others to assist in paying for this, they also increased the fee's for flying. and this is what the media calls progress because this was bi-partisan effort, what a laugh, more like a bi-partisan effort to cover their asses.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The problem is not running out of numbers. It's the spending for no public purpose. Always important to 'narrow' government to public purpose.

    The price level is always a function of the prices paid by the government, which is the price-setter at the margin, whether it knows it or not.

    So if government is doing a whole bunch of dumb shit, it can set up some very bad incentives in the economy, with implications for price stability.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Carlitos Wrote: A Continuing Resolution is a budget.

    They haven't passed an omnibus budget bill.

    If there were no budget, how could federal agencies spend anything?
    I understand that, but now we will not have to go back and have this fight every three months.
  • Democrat
    Julian, CA
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    This budget guarantees that the rich will get richer and the poor poorer and proves America is no longer a Republic but a lawless, corrupt, fascist, warmongering oligarchic plutocracy.
  • Liberal
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    Where's Ayn Rand when we need her? ;)
  • Independent
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    progressiveconnie Wrote: This budget guarantees that the rich will get richer and the poor poorer and proves America is no longer a Republic but a lawless, corrupt, fascist, warmongering oligarchic plutocracy.
    Yes the US is moving in the wrong direction. Do we ever learn of history? Napoleon tried to rule the world, Hitler tried it, the USSR tried it; the results are known. Now we are trying it; the results will be the same. In any society where the "gap" between rich and poor becomes too much; things will happen for sure. Also in any society where the war and weapon expenditure becomes a "dictatorship" in any society, then that militarism will be the noose around our own necks.
    Keep going on this track America; it is doomed as all other dreamers who thought they could rule the world.
  • Democrat
    Julian, CA
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    The U.S. Government earned the "We Love Our Robber Barons and to Hell With the Honest Hard Working People of America Award of the Year" and that $7.25 minimum wage proves it.
    "The Most Successful Use of Bribe Money Award of the Year" goes to the Robber Barons who got billions in subsidies, tax breaks and tax havens.
    The Republican State Legislatures receives, "The We Hate Women Award of the Year" for closing down hundreds of Women's Health Clinics across the country.
    The let them die for lack of Health Care crowd earned "The Most Heartless Award of the Year."
    And to all those brave, honest, courageous eternally optimistic American citizens who are fighting against these Robber Barons and their Stooges and the evil empire they have created goes, "The Patriots of the Year Award."
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    A shrinking pie benefits nobody's rising share in real terms. Everybody ends up getting less if it goes on long enough.