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Jameis Winston Wins Heisman

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  • Center Left
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    Denton, TX
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    Aggie's Johnny Manziel won it last year. The year before, it was Baylor's RGIII. And before that, it was Auburn's Cam Newton. Clearly, talent does translate well with the winners; many go on to lead very successful careers in the NFL. Six were nominated for the 2013-2014 Heisman Trophy. And this year's winner was #1 ranked Florida State's QB Jameis Winston. He is the second freshman ever to be awarded (Manziel was the first). He's also the youngest player to ever win; he'll turn 20 in January.

    Jameis Winston was a clear favorite to win, getting roughly 45% of the initial nomination votes. Voters reportedly said they struggled coming up with a solid 2nd or even 3rd candidate. There were a handful of good runner-up options, but no obvious choices. Some are saying that's actually why they nominated so many guys this year; there hasn't been 6 nominees since 1994.

    While Winston was the stand-out choice on paper with his stats, his sexual assault investigation (rape charges that he was just recently acquitted of) certainly looked like it could derail him. And, not just for a Heisman. But for any future in the NFL (or much of one for life in general), assuming that criminal charges and jail time were to befall him. What a crazy turn of events for Jameis. He went from considering a potential reality of being labeled a rapist behind bars to being awarded college football's highest honor, within weeks.

    I wish I could say congrats on the Heisman without any asterisk or hesitation. I mean, Winston had an extremely dominant season. For that, he does deserve the Heisman. But, when any girl accuses a guy of rape, true or not, it sticks with them forever. Two others immediately come to mind: Kobe Bryant and Ben Roethlisberger. I think of their controversy every time I hear their name and wonder. So damn unfortunate and unfair, if untrue. But, disgusting if they got away with it because of who they are. Either way, branded/tarnished for life.
  • Liberal
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    Typical low intelligence, ignoramus, misogynist who is more deserving of 10 years in prison than any trophy. But, he's a football hero, so let's all get down and worship him, after all, that's the "'merican way"!
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    sb says he's ..."branded/tarnished for life"... and that's true but what will it matter? Many sponsors and NFL teams don't care even a little bit. He'll have millions in the bank and be surrounded by his "boys" who will worship him as long as he keeps spending on them. NFL teams only care if he can help them win. Some sponsors may care, but certainly not all of them, there'll be some willing to shell out the big bucks for his endorsement.

    But he won't be rich for a while, because he can't legally be paid until after his last game as a college player. Of course there's always the under the table payoffs, and back room sacks of cash that he may be already collecting...just like many of our politicians do.

    pgr he may be all those things you say, but maybe, possibly he learns from this close call and will be more careful from now on. Maybe not, and if not he may be dead or in jail, or at least a broke deadbeat in a short time. It's happend to plenty of them.
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    I would not have voted for him (J. Winston). 50 years ago - Freshmen didn't even play on the varsity. Now two years in a row a Freshman has won the award......... What ever happened to paying your dues. I would have voted for AJ McCarron (spelling ?) QB from Alabama. He came in second. I saw 2 stories on ESPN this week that spoke of work he's done to help sick and disabled children. Seems like a class act to me.
    Don't forget there have been Heisman winners such as Geno Torretta who failed in the pros. Charlie Ward who played pro basketball, plus others who did not go onto success in sports.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    What a jerk of a character to be honored with being a Heisman winner, a trophy bestowed to college football's greatest. I guess that playing college sports and behaving in public are two separate issues. Jameis Winston had questionable public issues prior to the Heisman, something I remember about a rape. Apparently, that charge and police action was wiped clean by questionable acts by Florida law enforcement and Florida State working behind the scenes to discredit the rape charge. Now we have another incident by Jameis Winston for shoplifting. Is America ready to run him out of the public sports? He may play football well, but he apparently is a jerk in society. I realize Jameis Winston has his right to court to judge him on his crime. Any bets that Jameis Winston will have his crime dismissed on some technicality?

    The Heisman should be a treasured trophy and honor to receive. Corrupt and questionable players should not be allowed consideration for the Heisman. America treats the players as bad children and do not honor collegiate sports. There should be punishment and I hope Jameis Winston is kicked off Florida State Sports. We all know that is not going to happen.
  • Center Left
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    He's known for taking what isn't his. Current: Crab legs and craw fish worth 32.00. Court fined him 30.00 So I guess he got the FB player discount,
    (last fall) police were called when he was stealing soda from a fast food restaurant, Oh yeah the rape thing..... taking what wasn't his....after all he plays football really well. That's why the court on this shoplifting case suspended him from the Baseball team. Hell, they probably get 300 paid admissions for baseball versus 95,000 for Football..... I have said before that even though he wasn't convicted for the rape, his character flaws will show through the cover up. He got 20 hrs of community service too. That's probably things like turning on the automatic sprinklers on athletic fields.
  • Other Party
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    It looks like you can take the boy out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the boy.

    I thought that maybe, just maybe he learned his lesson from getting away with the rape incident. It seems like maybe not. He said "He forgot to pay". Of course he did. Happens all the time, right?

    I noticed that he was suspended from the baseball team but I haven't heard anything about his status with the football team. I wonder why? He's a good baseball player but a great football player, and maybe that has something to do with it. Or maybe everything to do with it.

    Anyone want to guess how long till he has his next run-in with law enforcement?

    Four months until football season...
  • Center Left
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    jamesn,
    Like I said, FB gets approx. 95,000 visitors. Tickets (for OSU) cost between 80.00 - +100.00 per ticket. So 8 - 10 million in revenue for admission before the first 6.00 Coke is bought or the first 5.00 Hot dog....not to mention 10.00+ per car to park. FB is the cash cow so he's safe. This isn't even factoring the big money from advertising and TV contracts. Even children know that stealing is wrong. I will cheer this year for FSU to fail. Justice in any form is appreciated.
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    Tony you are right, it all comes back to MONEY as most things do. His value to the University is as a football player, not a baseball player.

    Of course Winston knows that stealing is wrong, but he doesn't care. Because of his athletic ability, he has been exempt from many rules of society for so long that he thinks he's got a free pass to do just about anything, and maybe he's right about that.

    I shall be with you wishing for FSU to fail if Winston is on the team. He could screw up bad enough to get thrown in jail even in Florida.

    "He just forgot to pay".
  • Other Party
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    Winston was reinstated to the baseball team after serving 20 hours of "community service". Wonder what kind of service he provided to the community?

    That was FAST. The suspension didn't even last a week and he's back on the team already.

    Anyone think he learned his lesson?

    Or did he just learn, again, that he is above the law?
  • Center Left
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    Very bad..... Duplicitous justice. We'll have to watch to see where this leads. Hopefully no more innocent people are hurt by this fool. I'll be laughing when he falls on his face. I'll forever be against Florida State. Hell, he probably didn't miss more than one game for the BB team. This is his fourth incident of breaking the rules. Regular people would have been arrested. At Ohio State (last season) the star running back - Carlos Hyde had an incident where he had an altercation with a female in a bar. No violence at all. Because he should have known better, he was suspended for 3 games. That's how you teach a kid a lesson.