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FSU Quarterback Jameis Winston Avoids Rape Charges

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Jameis Winston, the star quarterback for the Florida State Seminoles football team that has been under investigation after a female accused him of rape, will not face any charges after the state attorney found insufficient evidence to move forward with the case. Winston's attorney's insisted that the sex between the two was consensual, while the woman has said it was not.

    This case has conflicted me for a variety of reasons. On one hand, I am a firm believer in the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Our judicial system is built upon this simple yet critical concept and I am loathe to suggest that needs to be changed. If someone has been accused of a crime, they should have every right to defend themselves against the accusations and deserve to be given the presumption of innocence until a jury of their peers renders their judgement.

    On the other hand, I am well aware of our countries abysmal record when it comes to successfully prosecuting sexual offenders. Multiple studies suggest that over sixty percent of sexual assaults are not reported to police and over 97 percent of alleged perpetrators never spend one day in jail. Women give a variety of reasons as to why they don't report their trauma to the authorities, but it almost always boils down to them coming to the conclusion that it just isn't worth it. Today's decision may reinforce that opinion in many women.

    The other variable that can not be ignored here is the fact that Winston is a star quarterback for the number one college football team in the nation. Star athletes are prime targets for these kind of scandals and they should always be aware of that fact. That in no way means that I believe that these individuals are without fault and every accusation against them should be met with a wary eye. Star quarterbacks, point guards, and pitchers are no different than anyone else and can commit crimes just like the rest of us.

    What does everyone think about this case? Before you give a comment about your views on women and rape, I would suggest reading up on some of these sad statistics. We have to start a discussion about the culture of rape and male sexual dominance in this country. While the Winston case is what our media is sensationalizing, there are countless other victims in this country that have to make the decision of going after an individual they feel sexually abused them or determining that it just isn't worth it. I, for one, think that is just terrible.
  • Other Party
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    Glad this got done now, before this weekends game and then the Heisman vote. The Heisman, which he is probably now going to win is worth big bucks, how many I don't know, but certainly hundreds of thousands if not millions. If these potential charges were still hanging over him, his chances of winning the Heisman would have been greatly reduced.

    Whether he is guilty or not he needs to learn from this experience. If innocent, he needs to learn that there are people who he may think he can trust, but who will try to take advantage of him. He will soon be wealthy and that makes him a target. If guilty, he should learn that he's lucky to get away with it and to be careful going forward. O J Simpson never learned, maybe this young man will.

    Let's remember a case from a few years ago when a young woman falsely accused some members of the Duke Lacrosse team of rape and it ruined their lives for quite a long time. The Duke players were tried and convicted by the media, as is so often the case, before they were cleared. Maybe it is KARMA, but the same young woman accuser was recently convicted of murdering her boyfriend.

    More recently the George Zimmerman case showed us how difficult it is to adhere to the ..."presumption of innocence until proven guilty."...
  • Center Left
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    I think this case was the current reminder of our duplicitous legal system. That for the wealthy and that for the common man. While Jameis isn't yet wealthy, the financial supporters of FSU certainly are, and they couldn't let a supposed rape upset their football glory. There was a woman who claimed to be raped but she doesn't bring as much fun as the football team rolling over cupcake opponents. Yes he'll win the Heisman. And will be the flavor of the month. The future will tell more about his character.........
    Sadly, the biggest problem is that victims will remain hesitant to come out of the shadows - because of cases like this.
  • Liberal
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    Sports hero that can make big money for the school or team. They won't kill the "Golden Pigs" unless forced to. The law is meaningless when the system is fixed as it is. Need I say the words Penn State?
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    You guys are both right. Money nearly always wins, and Winston equals big money for FSU and Tallahassee. Never, ever dismiss the money factor. To many FSU fans, the guilt or innocence of the star quarterback is a secondary consideration to keeping him on the playing field. The girl means nothing to them.

    Yes, this makes it even harder for rape victims to come forward.

    I have heard reports that the police report shows very compelling reasons to believe that a rape actually did occur. She filed a police report promptly. She was bruised. The detectives allegedly told her that she may want to reconsider filing charges against a high profile football player in a football town. Lots of the police have their criminology degrees from Florida State.

    Still, the authorities should not have waited this long to decide to press charges or not. For them to wait a year, until the end of his season playing football, when he is up for the Heisman Trophy is just plain wrong.

    The bottom line: He said, she said. No one here knows if there was a rape or not.


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    Since Winston has previous run-ins with the law prior to the rape accusation, I believe it will not be long that he will be in the media again. There will be many future accusations and one will stick. Winston does not know how to deal with responsible behavior and it will catch up with him. You can't runaway forever from your criminal behavior. The bad thing is that the police in Florida probably have a nasty taste in their mouth from allowing the evidence and law slip to Winston's favor. I feel sorry for the young lady, consensual or not. She was robbed of her legal day in court to face her so called rapist. The Prosecutor and Winston's lawyer didn't want it to go into court. It's all about the money. I hope they all choke on that money.

    This behavior acceptance makes the Heisman Trophy a lot cheaper than it should be if awarded to Winston.
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    Amc you say ..."This behavior acceptance makes the Heisman Trophy a lot cheaper"...

    If he's guilty, then I agree with you. But you seem to be assuming he's guilty and none of us knows his guilt or innocence.

    If he's like OJ Simpson or George Zimmerman, he'll continue to break the law and, yes, it'll catch up to him. If he's smarter than OJ and GZ, then maybe he can live a good life and make big bucks in the NFL. Only time will tell.

    Innocent until proven guilty.
  • Center Left
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    Well the sex happened. His semen was in her underwear. He said it was consensual. She said it was not. Thus she filed charges. But, ESPN doesn't give a damn about her. Neither does the Tallahassee police, The district attorney, or Jimbo Fisher (coach). The police and DA were laughable. They should be investigated.
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    Tony ..."the sex happened"... Yes it did, by all accounts, that's not the issue. College students have sex. "He said, she said" is the problem. His word against hers, and he's a celebrity and she's nobody. She never had a chance.

    ..."They should be investigated"...

    Sure, but what would it accomplish? It wouldn't affect Winston, he's free to rape and pillage again. Would it really change anything about the way the Tallahassee police conducts their business? Probably not.

    Would it expose corruption by the police? If it did, who would be surprised? No one. And what would change? Nothing.

    Winston equals money and so he gets a pass. That's not a new concept, because he's one of the priviliged few. If he were a regular student, he may have been in jail for this rape (allegedly) long ago. It's like the one percenters compared to the ninety nine percent. The rules do not apply equally.
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    jamesn Wrote: Tony ..."the sex happened"... Yes it did, by all accounts, that's not the issue. College students have sex. "He said, she said" is the problem. His word against hers, and he's a celebrity and she's nobody. She never had a chance.

    ..."They should be investigated"...

    Sure, but what would it accomplish? It wouldn't affect Winston, he's free to rape and pillage again. Would it really change anything about the way the Tallahassee police conducts their business? Probably not.

    Would it expose corruption by the police? If it did, who would be surprised? No one. And what would change? Nothing.

    Winston equals money and so he gets a pass. That's not a new concept, because he's one of the priviliged few. If he were a regular student, he may have been in jail for this rape (allegedly) long ago. It's like the one percenters compared to the ninety nine percent. The rules do not apply equally.
    Celebrities shouldn't be allowed to rape nobodies. No matter how well or who they play football for.
  • Other Party
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    ..."Celebrities shouldn't be allowed to rape nobodies"...

    Nobody will argue that, but life is not fair, never has been and never will be.
  • Liberal
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    As JC would say "PTL"
  • Liberal
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    As JC would say "PTL"
  • Democrat
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    pr Wrote: As JC would say "PTL"


    PTL ???
  • Other Party
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    Praise The Lord?

    Part time Lover?

    Pass the Lettuce?

    Piss on the Legislature?

    The possibilities are endless.