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War and Morality

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  • Democrat
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    War is Crime. I have no respect for Soldiers that Kill people. Every Soldier that comes back from war should be put in Jail for Crimes against Humanity. Killing is Wrong. these Soldiers think they are heros because they kill men, women, and children in the name of their country or in the name of war.



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  • Democrat
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    Than you have no problem with an opposing force coming to your house, family, church, business, and friends expressing their ambition and desire to take your freedom, finances, property and life. It's simple to believe that freedom must be defended with a strong force, a military and a soldier that is willing to give his/her life to protect your country, life and destroy the evil that preys on the ignorant, weak and less fortunate people in our world. Our world history is full of examples of the wars that are long in the past that exhibit the traits of plundering weak countries. The people who do not desire to fight for freedom than they must truly believe they are the peacemakers. Standing for peace without a strong military does nothing but experience loss of freedom and their life.
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    Uncle Sammy Wrote: War is Crime. I have no respect for Soldiers that Kill people. Every Soldier that comes back from war should be put in Jail for Crimes against Humanity. Killing is Wrong. these Soldiers think they are heros because they kill men, women, and children in the name of their country or in the name of war.



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  • Independent
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    Uncle Sammy Wrote: War is Crime. I have no respect for Soldiers that Kill people. Every Soldier that comes back from war should be put in Jail for Crimes against Humanity. Killing is Wrong. these Soldiers think they are heros because they kill men, women, and children in the name of their country or in the name of war.



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    Yes you are right; since WWII most of the wars fought by the US did not result in any safer world nor benefitted the US. The deplorable fact that during wars a huge number of people get killed who never did do any harm to anyone gets no attention. Sure only a few people benefit from wars, mostly the war industry and their buddies. Then we have also the hypocrites in this country who praise the war institution, because "This keeps us safe" and " God bless the USA" as well "It is "God's will" etc. Sorry to say people decide wars, not God's. Then we have certain people who believe the US should eradicate any country which we do not like and play Rambo. I'm still amazed that these same people object that there is lack of decent infrastructure in this country, let alone high speed trains or no slums in our cities; protection against storms etc. No we are broke because of our wars; which did cost thousands of innocent human lives but some made fortunes on war junk and got our kids on dope. In the meantime there are more guns than people in this country and still we are affraid someone will invade us; what a joke. No country in this world will ever attack us; we've got 100 times more weapons (as well atomic bombs) than Hitler ever had. Only terrorists (created solely because of our worldwide attitude) will attack us. Do we need $220 million planes a piece to wart them off? or a Navy ship of also $220 million? Are we nuts?
    Staying on this path will indeed bankrupt the US and turn all our cities into "Detroits" or worse. But love the warmachine?


























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  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    It's a losing battle I'm afraid Dutch! We live in one of the most violent uncivilized countries of the world. But, at least, God loves us.
  • Democrat
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    I don't know Dutch, our participation in the WWII certainly benefitted those Asians who fell under the rule of the Empire of the Setting Sun, as well those countries whose people were slaughtered by the Nazi regime as well those in Italy who were under the Fascist rule, I think they benefitted very much indeed. War is not good because it reflects the failure of the human creature to understand and respect one another, so often because of that and pride ,war is often inevitable.
  • Democrat
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    Three months ago, I was in Estonia visiting a small country few know anything about it's history. This little country has been ruled by several countries from Sweden, Russia, and Germany and this in the past century. Estonia now knows a peaceful existence, but it has been ravaged by war and because Estonians did not want to fight for anybody, they suffered. Their countryman and families were executed and forced into harsh labor and of course the current war front at the time. Europe has transitioned itself into a several countries that are through with war. However, each even Estonia has some form of military to prevent the past from reoccurring. The European block of countries have a good relationship with few travel restrictions between them.

    Today in the world we have China flexing it's power into Japan's waters, North Korea has a large army ready for exercise, Al Quida and rebel forces are all over Africa, Asia and throughout the world ready to strike an evil agenda at anytime, and Russia with United States stand ready armed to the teeth to repel any attack. Canada, Britain, France, Japan, and Australia have equal time in building an arsenal of weapons as partners with America. Don't know where Russia would be, but I would think they would most likely join with America and it's partners to stop aggressive agenda's by evil forces. NATO was created for this joining of political, peaceful and greater force of opposition to war agendas. There are several South American countries that stay the course by staying out, however, a few would cry foul to anything America supports. Iran is a powder keg ready to blow up and maybe sooner if Israel bombs Iran's nuclear power plants. Iraq, Afganistan, and Pakistan are in transition. India has a strong military to historically boast against Pakistan, but they are too busy with making new business in the world. The new deal with Iran is a caution at best.

    If the war comes close to home, I definitely will not side with Dutch, PGR and Uncle Sammy. Your three and your clans are most likely going to be the ones hiding under the rocks when the enemy comes. Than it's too late.
  • Liberal
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    Obviously, you have missed the whole point of this post. I suggest you go back and rethink what we are actually saying rather than what your preconceived perceptions of what we are trying to tell you.
  • Liberal
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    pr Wrote: Obviously, you have missed the whole point of this post. I suggest you go back and rethink what we are actually saying rather than what your preconceived perceptions of what we are trying to tell you.
    God loves,,,,then he doesn't...then he does....then he doesn't


    PGR,

    God changes his mind like most of the "fakers' in this forum do........no they don't...yes they do.
  • Liberal
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    I don't believe they are all "fakers" or even change their minds. I prefer to believe they are only misinformed and speak what they feel is the truth (sort of like most everyone in this world except for the ones that God speaks to regularly, of course)
  • Independent
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Than you have no problem with an opposing force coming to your house, family, church, business, and friends expressing their ambition and desire to take your freedom, finances, property and life. It's simple to believe that freedom must be defended with a strong force, a military and a soldier that is willing to give his/her life to protect your country, life and destroy the evil that preys on the ignorant, weak and less fortunate people in our world. Our world history is full of examples of the wars that are long in the past that exhibit the traits of plundering weak countries. The people who do not desire to fight for freedom than they must truly believe they are the peacemakers. Standing for peace without a strong military does nothing but experience loss of freedom and their life.
    I guess you are totally indoctrinated; no one here takes your freedom; except the government, armed forces, the Pentagon; all people here are armed to the teeth, so why worry about other countries wanting to attack us? Who attacked us since WWII? Only terrorists!! Not countries!! Why the terrorist?

    Because we "meddle" in their world and steal their resourses or occupy their country or tell them on how to run their lives.

    Then you have indoctrinated fanatics either Christian or Muslim; which are in general only (compared to whole countries) only small groups.
    Fanatism is purely created by wanting full control over people, so you can manipulate them and brainwash them so far that they are willing to kill for the "cause" . Lately this fanatism has increased because of our attitude around the world as well as locally. (christian fanatics)
    Like in the past there were also certain groups like the ones who all got poisoned by their priest in Guyana; however they stuck to their own and did not try to enforce their beliefs on others like they do today.

    It seems that people right now can not think for themselves anymore; their I-Pad and other media does that for them. Like A.F (who is taking your freedom, finances ( yes our government), property and life????? Wake up America!!!
  • Independent
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    johnnycee Wrote: I don't know Dutch, our participation in the WWII certainly benefitted those Asians who fell under the rule of the Empire of the Setting Sun, as well those countries whose people were slaughtered by the Nazi regime as well those in Italy who were under the Fascist rule, I think they benefitted very much indeed. War is not good because it reflects the failure of the human creature to understand and respect one another, so often because of that and pride ,war is often inevitable.
    Read my 'piece" again; I said since WWII !!
  • Independent
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Three months ago, I was in Estonia visiting a small country few know anything about it's history. This little country has been ruled by several countries from Sweden, Russia, and Germany and this in the past century. Estonia now knows a peaceful existence, but it has been ravaged by war and because Estonians did not want to fight for anybody, they suffered. Their countryman and families were executed and forced into harsh labor and of course the current war front at the time. Europe has transitioned itself into a several countries that are through with war. However, each even Estonia has some form of military to prevent the past from reoccurring. The European block of countries have a good relationship with few travel restrictions between them.

    Today in the world we have China flexing it's power into Japan's waters, North Korea has a large army ready for exercise, Al Quida and rebel forces are all over Africa, Asia and throughout the world ready to strike an evil agenda at anytime, and Russia with United States stand ready armed to the teeth to repel any attack. Canada, Britain, France, Japan, and Australia have equal time in building an arsenal of weapons as partners with America. Don't know where Russia would be, but I would think they would most likely join with America and it's partners to stop aggressive agenda's by evil forces. NATO was created for this joining of political, peaceful and greater force of opposition to war agendas. There are several South American countries that stay the course by staying out, however, a few would cry foul to anything America supports. Iran is a powder keg ready to blow up and maybe sooner if Israel bombs Iran's nuclear power plants. Iraq, Afganistan, and Pakistan are in transition. India has a strong military to historically boast against Pakistan, but they are too busy with making new business in the world. The new deal with Iran is a caution at best.

    If the war comes close to home, I definitely will not side with Dutch, PGR and Uncle Sammy. Your three and your clans are most likely going to be the ones hiding under the rocks when the enemy comes. Than it's too late.
    I guess you keep forgetting that the US has a total overkill capacity, which litterally can wipe out the whole world as we know it. ( Ever seen what is parked out in the desert etc.?)
    On top of that the Pentagon is investing even trillions more on "killing" junk So what do we want? Enough stuff to blow up the Moon and Mars as well?
    Where are your brains? This investment which the Pentagon is doing only benefits certain "takers" who already have billions in their bank accounts.
    These "criminals" keep the "arms" race going, so other countries who refuse to be "bullied" by the US, try to defend themselves accordingly, like China, Russia. This suits the "takers" extreemly well. Until armagedon. Therefore it does not protect you but will destroy you instead.
    I do not believe in "human" written Bibbles, however one statement is correct: " Turn your "swords" into "plowshares"
  • Liberal
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    HEY softy's

    Not one of you think about the world when your at Wal Mart buying your DVD, cruising down the aisles with you plastic shopping cart, sucking down that 32oz big gulp from 7-11.......All of these items are petroleum based products. Think about the poor African kid as u sit on your vinyl recliner with that huge universal remote flipping thru the channels looking for the Kardashians.

    You claim empathy while you take 1/2 your plate and shove it down the garbage disposal because you've had a liitle too much to eat.... then head for the medicine cabinet looking for that pink plastic bottle that relieves your gluttonous secretions....... In order for you to do this people around the globe have to suffer while we take their resources so that you can maintain your "pig status"..... while you sit in church in judgment of others.......Please stop.

    FAKERS
  • Liberal
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    MATH LESSON:

    America + the worlds resources = gluttonous pigs, obesity, and self rightsousness


    The rest of world - their resources= those beautiful missionaries offering a plate of food and foolishness