Chet Ruminski Wrote: What does this have to do with lots of good paying jobs. Nothing to do with free college.
My post has everything to do with "good paying jobs" and "free college." A solid minority of Democrats have fallen for politicians who promise them everything in the world..."for free!!!" without ever once thinking critically about how all this "free" stuff will be paid for. Their mantra is "low taxes and free everything!" Or I should say "low taxes [for me] and free everything!"
How do you suppose "free college" for tens of millions of people will be provided? How do you suppose universities will be able to attract competent professors if they are paid sub par salaries? And how do you suppose we fight the inevitable Constitutional challenge concerning "free college!" when it comes to state versus Federal rights in the courts? I would be very hard pressed to see any Appeals Court other than the 9th say that there's a Constitutional right to a post-secondary education, but even if the 9th ruled it Constitutional, I would be SHOCKED if the Supreme Court didn't overrule them.
Now, I'm all for community colleges offering deeply discounted (paid for by the local taxpayers!) education and trade program certificates, but most community colleges are already doing that. Students can get an associates degree or enroll in a trade program for little to zero money at all already. What we haven't figured out as a society is how to make it affordable for the lower and middle classes to take the next step into an affordable bachelors program at a state or private university.
This is what I'm trying to get across. Promises of free! this and free! that undoubtedly fire up the base, but they are terrible in the long run because it only pisses off the base when they find out that there's no such thing as a free lunch.
Chet Ruminski Wrote: This supports my belief that you have no clue that the Democratic Party drifted away from taking care of the working class. Every Democrat should start every sentence with we have to rectify everything Phil Gramm did.
"Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it."
I'm well aware of the history of the Democratic Party, Chet. I'm aware of the good, bad, and downright ugly history of the Democratic Party.
We were the party of slavery, Jim Crow, and segregation which also happened to be the party that helped out the "working [WHITE] man" (and only men).
We're now the party of inclusiveness, gay rights, women's rights, civil rights, and still care about the working people, but unfortunately some of those people decided that following demagogues who promise them everything in the world for free! is easier than ever thinking critically about stubbornly complex problems facing our country.
jaredsxtn said: "Then disillusioned people will again fall for the fanciful promises that demagogues like Donald and Bernie promise them and the cycle will repeat itself."
Trump never had any intention of helping anybody . Bernie was honest and absolutely could pay for everything . He was going to tax derivatives. That alone would put money back into the economy by enticing billions upon billions of dollars to go back into investing in jobs producing investments . That would put money back into the hands of people that would spend it and prosperity would prevail.