Post 07-28-2014, 04:21 PM
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jaredsxtn
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Thread: Ebola Outbreak Wreaking Havoc in West Africa; Is the Western World Next?

The worst Ebola outbreak in recorded history currently wreaking havoc in West Africa is sounding alarm bells throughout the world that it may only be a matter of time before it breaks out of the African continent and makes its way to the rest of the world. The outbreak, which was first detected in March of this year, has already killed 672 and has infected 1,201 individuals.

Two American doctors who have been working with Ebola patients have become infected and are receiving treatment in isolation. A Liberian doctor has also succumbed to the virus, passing away on Sunday. Dr. Samuel Brisbane, one of the health officials in Liberia, was the first physician to die of the virus since this current outbreak began.

Ebola is a difficult virus to detect and treat because patients typically don't show any immediate signs of illness after coming in contact with the virus. The symptoms take two days to three weeks to fully materialize, making it incredibly difficult to contain. There is no cure for Ebola virus and the mortality rate is anywhere between 50 and 90 percent.

The virus has spread to three West African countries, Sierra Leone, Liberia, and Guinea, and is certain to spread outward if doctors and health officials can not get a hold of the situation in the very near future. This outbreak has already far surpassed the most recent outbreaks dating back to the mid-1970's and has many health officials worried that they are on a race against time before it travels outside of Africa. The fact that an infected person can remain undetected for upwards of three weeks is a scary prospect for governments worldwide.

Has anyone been following this story closely? What do you think the United States should do to prepare for an outbreak on its own shores? Multiple African countries have already set up isolation centers in their international airports to try to pick up passengers suspected of having the disease, but that is only a band-aid considering many people may not be showing any symptoms whatsoever and may not for weeks to come. Do you think it is inevitable for American airports to start doing the same thing in the near future? What else should or could we do to prevent it from spreading on American shores?
Post 07-26-2014, 02:21 PM
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jaredsxtn
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Thread: Israel, Hamas and the Gaza Strip

The twelve hour truce that Israel and Hamas agreed to has been extended by three hours. However, you shouldn't get excited about any peace accord being signed soon. There have been no serious talks about any prolonged ceasefire and neither side seems likely to stop fighting anytime soon, especially after Gilad Erdan, a cabinet minister in Israels government, said that they are planning to expand their current incursion into Gaza, not pull back. It seems like Israel doesn't care what the rest of the world thinks anymore, but when has that ever stopped them before?

Over 1,000 Palestinians have been killed and over 5,700 have been wounded in the recent conflict. The vast majority of these casualties are civilians, including scores of innocent women and children. I truly wonder when Israel will wake up and realize they are shooting themselves in the foot. They may 'win' this current conflict by using overwhelming force, but they seem to be losing the greater war of winning the hearts and minds of the rest of the world. That may come back to haunt them down the road.
Post 07-24-2014, 10:56 AM
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jaredsxtn
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Thread: Israel, Hamas and the Gaza Strip

Update: The Gaza health ministry says that Israel bombed a known UN run shelter, killing at least 15 women and children who thought they were in one of the few safe places in that war torn land. Over 200 more people were wounded.
Post 07-23-2014, 01:31 AM
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jaredsxtn
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Thread: Jack Kingston Loses Georgia Senate Runoff

Representative Jack Kingston was defeated in the Georgia Senate runoff election this evening, ending the Congressman's twenty plus year career in the House. David Perdue was leading Mr. Kingston by 8,000 votes with 99 percent of precincts reporting.

Perdue is a businessman who was formerly CEO of both Reebok and Dollar General. This is his first run for office.

The general election will pit Perdue against Democrat Michelle Nunn, the daughter of former Georgia Senator Sam Nunn and first time candidate herself. While the Democrats are trying to bring Georgia into play, it is still a deeply conservative state and it will be quite difficult for Ms. Nunn to overcome that.

Do we have any Georgia residents on the site? What are your thoughts about Mr. Kingston's defeat?
Post 07-21-2014, 06:31 PM
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jaredsxtn
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Thread: Israel, Hamas and the Gaza Strip

AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: If you see the Israelites view and/or the Jewish plight of existing on this earth, you would think differently. Your ignorance of other peoples trying to exist as a nation and as a people deeply routed in their religious roots is disheartening and blind. I'm sorry, but for Israel, it is fight or be forever forced into struggling to survive. If you were Israel you would feel differently, but because you are not, it is apparent you do not care for the people of Israel and careless if that Jews and nation of Israel is destroyed.
I don't know if you are talking to me or Dutch here, but I will respond regardless. I do understand the Jewish point of view and fully appreciate the hell they have gone through throughout their history. However, that does not give them the green light to indiscriminately kill countless people and put an entire population under an apartheid so they get their way. That is a recipe for disaster and they know it.

To call me or anyone else who criticizes Israel killing hundreds of people someone who doesn't care if 'Jews and [the] nation of Israel is destroyed' is unfortunate and ill informed. We can disagree with actions the Israeli government makes without actively pushing for their destruction. They will bring that destruction on all by themselves if they keep behaving the way that they are.

AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: For that reason, you had better be forewarned of the foretold prophetic scripture of Armageddon. I believe it will come pass and the entire world will be impacted by this catastrophic event. We must protect the people of Israel and continue the support for Jews around the world.
This is a story written in AD 95, nearly 70 years after Jesus died. The Revelation of Saint John was written by an individual who was cast off to an island as a form of Roman persecution against him. Is it of any surprise that he wrote a 'end of days' propaganda piece meant to get the constantly persecuted Christian church supporters excited?

The end of days has been forecast countless times since this story was placed in the bible. Multiple events throughout human history have been thought to be the coming of the end times, but surprise surprise, they never actually came. From the Black Plague to World War's I and II, the end of times have always been used as a way to control a population of people into subversion.

It is a terrible idea for us to read this book literally and we will sorely regret the day we humans try to literally recreate a biblical story. That's all The Revelation of John is. It's a story written by an angry dissident. I'm not trying to bash your religion, but I think it is incredibly naive of the human race to try to force biblical stories to come true because we are convinced that's what is supposed to happen. The Bible is a collection of stories written by various individuals over a period of hundreds of years, not a book that was literally written by the hand of God.

AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Egyptian rulers, Hitler, KKK and Nazism around the world and inside America has a long history of threatened the lives of Jews and Israel. Your responses are no different than these groups and show a continued disregard of a people trying to defend themselves from terror.
Hate groups have long existed in America and all around the world. Not only in this day and age, but for millennia. You only refer to the hate groups that rail against the Jewish religion in your recent postings, but what about anti-black, anti-Muslim, anti-Immigrant, anti-LGBT, neo-confederate, and black separatists hate groups? The United States government doesn't arm the opposing side of each of these groups with heavy weaponry and an 'Iron Dome' protection shield. The United States government doesn't base their entire foreign policy on making sure that the people these hate groups target are able to 'defend themselves from terror.'

AmcmurryFreedom Wrote:
I support Israel. I am sorry for the innocent of Palestine, but they must rise up against Hamas and other groups that use their people as human shields for political gain. Palestine can control their destiny, but they must act against the terrorism in their homelands. Israel is not their enemy, it is rightfully Hamas and many Islamic factions.
The people of Gaza voted Hamas into power in independent and democratic elections. They have tried to control their destiny, but it's rather difficult to when there is a sea, land, and naval blockade that turns every resident into a prisoner on their own land.

Israel is their enemy. Israel is solely responsible to making their lives hell. Israel is solely responsible for the blockade. Israel is solely responsible for everything. Just because Israel doesn't like a democratically elected government doesn't give them the right to turn an entire population of people into prisoners.
Post 07-21-2014, 05:13 PM
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jaredsxtn
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Thread: ObamaCare Works!

The New England Journal of Medicine released a study last week that estimated over 20 million individuals obtained health insurance before the enrollment deadline back on March 31.

The study estimated that "1 million adults under age 26 enrolled in their parents' plan; 8 million enrolled in private coverage through the insurance marketplaces; 5 million enrolled in private coverage directly through their insurer; 6 million enrolled in Medicaid."

Not surprisingly, no Republican released a single statement about these recent numbers.

Click on the link below to read the entire piece by the NEJM

Health Care Coverage under the Affordable Care Act — A Progress Report
Post 07-21-2014, 01:17 PM
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jaredsxtn
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Thread: Israel, Hamas and the Gaza Strip

DavidXXX Wrote: I believe that the only answer is to realize that there is no answer without a born again paradigm shift. The United Nation needs to declare Israel a World Heritage site;and the present protagonists must relinquish the land for their own and for humanities greater good. The spiritual integrity of Israel' heritage is not compatible with a nation state and the continual intrusion of political expedience. As a Uniterd Nations protectorate the flag of peace could fly above the Holy Land. All Ther religious would be recognized and the Universal Golden rule be honored.
Welcome to the site, David.

The 'Holy Land' could be a demilitarized zone in a perfect world, but we do not live in a perfect world. There is zero chance of Israel ever willfully walking away from Jerusalem and allowing the United Nations to come in and raise its flag over that tract of land.

I don't think anyone, even Palestine's strongest supporters, are calling for a demilitarized zone in Jerusalem. I am firmly on the side against Israels apartheid, but I still don't believe that Israel should be 'wiped off the map.' To the contrary, I want Israel to realize that it will never have peace if the only thing it does is bully everyone around them.


Post 07-20-2014, 09:53 PM
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jaredsxtn
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Thread: Israel, Hamas and the Gaza Strip

Your response is pretty much exhibit A of the cognizant disconnect between fact and fiction when it comes to this conflict. To you it does not matter what Israel does and they are always justified in whatever killings they do. You put the entire blame on Hamas and Palestine without directing one ounce of blame towards Israel. The numbers speak for themselves.

Your bringing up Germany is one heck of a logical fallacy. Israel wasn't a state when Hitler was terrorizing the Jews. The newly created United Nations decided that the Palestinian people should be displaced and kicked off their homeland to create a new state of Israel in 1948. Those are indisputable facts and the reason why I tend to side more with the people who are living under apartheid as opposed to a people who will kill anyone and anything who dares cross them, as the Israelis so often do.
Post 07-20-2014, 08:17 PM
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Thread: Israel, Hamas and the Gaza Strip

It is an absolute shame that our media is entirely complicit in the way this conflict is portrayed and NBC's behavior has only exemplified that. It is commonplace to refer to each and every fighter in Gaza as a 'terrorist,' a loaded and catchall word that elicits fear of the Palestinian people in general. They can just as easily be called 'freedom fighters' since their land has been invaded by a foreign entity, but I guarantee that you will never catch an American media outlet use that term.

This is what happens when Israel has a choke hold on the American media. They will gladly put Netanyahu all over our television screens and fall over themselves applauding his indiscriminate killing of 'terrorists' in Gaza, but only the 'fringe' media outlets would ever consider giving equal time to the plight of the Palestinians and educate the American public from their point of view of the conflict. Netanyahu was on 'Face The Nation,' 'This Week,' today and on other Sunday talk shows last week. Our media is a joke when it comes to actually reporting this conflict in a thoughtful and intellectual manner.

The death and injured toll now stands at 434 and 2,600 wounded on the Palestinian side to 20 killed and zero wounded on the Israeli side. How in the world can anyone justify that? How in the world can anyone not say Israel is just indiscriminately killing countless civilians, including over 100 women and children? What is their end game in this mindless military adventure of theirs? They keep telling the Palestinians to run and hide, but they are prisoners in their own land. There is nowhere for them to run and hide from Israeli soldiers.
Post 07-19-2014, 05:34 AM
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Thread: Downing of Malaysia 777

I definitely agree, Schmidt. What exactly could our Seals accomplish if we sent them in there? We can't just send our soldiers into an active war zone with no plan to retract them. Russia has been supplying heavy weaponry to these separatists in Eastern Ukraine. Wouldn't it only be reasonable for these separatists to interpret that as an act of war? Our soldiers would be sitting ducks in a civil war we have nothing to do with. That could turn a localized civil war into World War III in a matter of minutes. While a downed plane full of hundreds of civilians is a terrible tragedy, it is not worth starting a nuclear war over.

Many people don't like the way President Obama conducts American diplomacy because we became so accustomed to trying to get our way through force. That failed miserably and we will be paying the price for those mindless adventures for years to come. Many hawks want nothing more than to fight as many wars as we possibly can without thinking about any of the consequences. I'm proud to have a President who actually thinks before he mindlessly enters America into yet another conflict without a plan of action.

Russia's economy was already heading into recession before Obama announced the most recent round of sanctions and it will undoubtedly get worse for them now. Foreign investors are fleeing Russia faster than Usain Bolt running the 100 meter dash. That is Obama's diplomacy and one I can say I whole heartedly stand behind. While the power of the purse is not as sexy as the power of force, one works and the other doesn't. Russia is finding that out the hard way right now.
Post 07-17-2014, 07:34 PM
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Dutch Wrote: "Jared" completely agree; sorry to say the Western World created this situation in1948; not much has changed since then, except the difference in wealth and the have and have not's; the oppression and expansion which Israel is pursuing wil lead to more of this for sure.
I definitely agree that the Western World created this situation in 1948, but much has changed since then. The original borders have been greatly expanded and Israel has created a de facto apartheid state in the West Bank/Judea, Samaria, and dozens of other illegal settlements. If Israel ever truly wants peace then they have to recognize that they over reached and that they will have to give some land that they took back. The Palestinians have already shown a great willingness to compromise about possible borders for a future state, but Israel has not reciprocated. They may think that's in their best interest for now, but it will only harden the Palestinians resolve in this dispute. It is impossible to defeat an ideology. America has found this out the hard way in her recent conflicts and Israel will undoubtedly find it out as well.
Post 07-17-2014, 01:41 PM
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Thread: Downing of Malaysia 777

AP Story:

Both sides are denying responsibility for the downing, but the missile was fired from inside a chunk of territory currently being held by separatists.

This tragedy comes one day after a much lesser reported story of a Russian fighter jet entering Ukrainian airspace and shooting down a Ukrainian fighter jet. While that in and of itself would be a dramatic escalation of the conflict, shooting down a commercial plane full of innocent civilians can open up a Pandora's box that we may not soon be able to shut.
Post 07-17-2014, 03:35 AM
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Thread: Israel, Hamas and the Gaza Strip

AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Inform Palestine to turn-in Hamas and those firing terrorism into Israel. It is just that simple. The rocket fire is coming from civilian residential areas. There is a limit to just how surgical you can respond with defense attempting to halt the rocket/missile firing. Those people in Palestine and Gaza that are firing rockets into Israel could care less about the children and private citizens that die from the retaliations of Israel. They know that Israel will retaliate, thus these evil people use the civilians, women and children as political baiting for world condemnation of Israel. It's a war tactic.

Turn-in and arrest those that are firing the rockets and the killing will stop. Palestinians do not care about the deaths of their loved ones and only use the deaths for hyped-up media junk for the world to condemn Israel.
That's a pretty strong thing to say. How do you feel you would react if you were confined to a tiny strip of land and not allowed to leave for over seven years? It's easy to tell them to just stop firing rockets at Israel. It's just as easy for Israel to stop firing missiles at young children and senior citizens and remove the brutal blockade they have imposed.

I also don't agree the conflict would just end if you arrest those who are firing the rockets. The Palestinians are angry, and rightfully so in my opinion. It's easy to take Israels side, especially with how the American media treats them, but how would you feel if you were stuck in Gaza for seven years and not allowed to freely move around? Don't you think you might take up arms against the oppressive apartheid regime that is making your life hell?

The fatality count is currently at 213-1. Israel has killed 213 Palestinians, many of them women and children. Those children are not terrorists. Those children don't have bomb shelters to go to when Israeli missiles start raining down on them. How can Israel justify that? Israel will never have the peace they insist they want if they continue to indiscriminately slaughter hundreds of civilians. The 'Iron Dome' protects them enough, as the fatality numbers show. Why do they need to wreak havoc on a defenseless population? What good will come of that?
Post 07-16-2014, 06:21 PM
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Thread: Israel, Hamas and the Gaza Strip

Update:

Four young Palestinian children were indiscriminately killed while playing soccer on a beach today. Israel must have considered them a clear and present danger against their national security. There were zero reports of any Hamas fighters being killed in the bombing.

This brings the Palestinian death toll to 213 including 43 young children. Over 1,600 Palestinians have been wounded. Israel has reported one fatality.

I truly wonder how the Israeli government can live with themselves. How can they justify this indiscriminate brutality against a defenseless population?
Post 07-16-2014, 11:19 AM
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Thread: Israel, Hamas and the Gaza Strip

Arroyo Wrote: With the ceasefire truce put together by Egypt being rejected by Hamas in the Gaza strip, how bad do you think Israel will bomb? Will there be anything left of it after they get done with it? Several articles I'm reading say that Israel is warning everyone that they will come down hard on the small strip of land, and recommending everyone to evacuate, by the tens of thousands.
The evacuation warning leaves me a little confused considering the entire Gaza Strip has been under a sea and land blockade for seven years now. Residents are not allowed to leave and virtually no one, other than Israeli soldiers, are allowed to enter. Where exactly does Israel expect these people to go if they can't leave this tiny strip of land composed of a paltry 139 square miles?

Arroyo Wrote: I am nowhere near an expert on the subject, or the nuanced history of the conflict for that matter. But I do know the basics. And it appears that a fight between Israel and the Hamas in Gaza is like David v Goliath (with Israel being the giant). Feel free to correct me, if I'm wrong there.
You are entirely correct. We all know how that biblical story wound up, as well.

Arroyo Wrote: Also, would really like to hear someone's summarized take on the conflict in the region, and why its going down in the first place. Also, why did Hamas reject the ceasefire? I know the media's answers to these questions. But, to be honest, you get WILDLY different takes depending on where you read.
We all know the media's answers and they are squarely on the side of the Israeli's, but the history of that land is not nearly as simplistic as many in our media make it out to be.

The conflict between Arabs and the Jewish state can date back to 850 BC. While there was no Muslim religion back then, this would still be classified as the first battle between the two sides. Battles raged between Israel and it's neighbors for many centuries after that and 'ownership' of the land changes between many hands for many centuries after that.

The current conflict can be dated back to 638, when ironically, the Rashidun Caliphate, also known as the Islamic Empire, allowed Jews to return to what they consider their homeland. The region was still under Islamic rule and continued that way until the crusades. After a few hundred years of that back and forth, the Arabs eventually drove out the crusaders and ruled Palestine for the next few centuries. After the Ottoman Empire's fall in WW!, the British came in and started messing everything up.

Constant rebellions and revolts made the British's job quite difficult, culminating in a three year long war lasting from 1936-1939. The British continuously granted more and more land to Jewish Zionists against the will of the Palestinian people, which undoubtedly frustrated the Palestinians . Things continued to go poorly for the Palestinians throughout the 1940's, culminating in the newly minted United Nations passing a unilateral mandate creating the state of Israel. This led to the war of 1949 and Israel enacting their first of many partitions outside of the boundaries drawn by the 1948 United Nations lines.

The next great conflict was in 1967 and that is when Israel dramatically increased the amount of land they claim for themselves. They have given back some of the land, but the vast majority of it is still claimed and occupied by Israel to this day.

Hamas came into power in the Gaza Strip in 2007 and Israel immediately set up a brutal blockade that is still in place today. The people of Gaza are prisoners on their own land and are entirely reliant on Israel for the most basic of things like food and water. They can not leave their small strip of land and face constant harassment by the Israeli military.

This current fight is being justified because three young Israeli citizens were kidnapped and killed by a group of Palestinians. Israel is justifying a whole scale invasion of a defenseless population because three people were murdered. This gave Israel the 'green light' to begin indiscriminately bombing the entire Gaza Strip. Then Israeli citizens kidnapped and murdered a young teenager in what can only be classified as a brutal revenge killing. That ushered in a dramatic escalation of the conflict whose end is anyone's guess.
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