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01-04-2012, 04:18 PM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 1058

With Rick Santorum's virtual tie for first place in Iowa, many pundits are extolling his family values. For those that are not aware, I have compiled a few tidbits on Rick Santorum's positions on issues extracted from ThinkProgress, Rick Santorum's Top 10 Most Outrageous Campaign Statements and NNDB, Rick Santorum.

Rick Santorum says he would annul all same sex marriages.

Rick Santorum once said that "the ultimate homeland security issue" is making sure sodomites and homosexuals cannot marry each other. In a 2003 interview he likened sodomy to adultery, polygamy, and incest as "antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family". He has compared the idea of homosexual marriage to "man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be," and said, "If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything."

Rick Santorum would repeal all federal funding for contraception, and supports states laws to outlaw birth control, insisting that “it’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”

Rick Santorum expressed his surprise that President Obama didn’t know when life began — given his skin color. “I find it almost remarkable for a black man to say ‘now we are going to decide who are people and who are not people.”

Rick Santorum, during his Senate career, worked with Dick Armey, Tom DeLay, and Grover Norquist to implement the Republicans' "K Street Project" to pressure lobbying firms to hire only Republicans. To accomplish this, Santorum held weekly meetings where he and other leading Republicans told lobbyists who to hire in job openings at lobbying companies -- always well-connected Republicans. The K Street Project to freeze-out Democrats was very successful, but backfired when all the legislators on the take during the crooked lobbyist Jack Abramoff scandal were Republicans.

Rick Santorum has denied associations with the K-Street Project, but the conservative American Enterprise Institute in 2006 provided more documentation of his intimate involvement: Santorum's Denials on K Street Project Don't Ring True. I provide three extracts from the AEI sources:

“The research project, headed by GOP activist Grover Norquist, was discussed in June in a private meeting in the Capitol hosted by Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.). Several Republican lawmakers already have copies of the dossier, dubbed the ‘K Street Project,’ according to GOP aides.”

“[T]he lobbyists present pass around a list of the [lobbying] jobs available and discuss whom to support. Santorum’s responsibility is to make sure each one is filled by a loyal Republican — a Senator’s chief of staff, for instance, or a top White House aide, or another lobbyist whose reliability has been demonstrated. After Santorum settles on a candidate, the lobbyists present make sure it is known whom the Republican leadership favors.”

“In recent years, [Norquist] has also been involved in the K-Street Project, an audacious attempt by Republican leaders on Capitol Hill, including Tom DeLay and Senator Rick Santorum, of Pennsylvania, to turn the busy thoroughfare where many corporate influence peddlers have their offices into an affiliate of the Republican Party.”

Rick Santorum...the Family Values guy...yeah right.

01-04-2012, 05:18 PM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 1058

I just found a pretty good Salon.com article by Irin Carmon entitled: Rick Santorum is coming for your birth control. A few extracts:

Rick Santorum: “One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country.” And also, “Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that’s okay, contraception is okay. It’s not okay. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”

Quoting Carmon: "This is important, because while reproductive rights are always cast in terms of pro or against a woman’s right to an abortion and in what circumstances, even liberals are surprised to find out what social conservatives really want to do about contraception. Liberals are even willing to cast the proposed defunding of Planned Parenthood and all Title X programs (a position that has become mainstream in Republican circles) as an abortion issue, when it is actually about contraception. (The Hyde Amendment already bans almost all federal abortion funding.)"

"Santorum isn’t alone. Five of the current or former Republican presidential candidates signed the Personhood Pledge."

As Carmon points out, "not only have more than 99 percent of sexually active women used at least one form of birth control, helping people get access to birth control is actually a popular issue. According to a June survey by the Public Religion Research Institute, 82 percent of Americans actually want to expand access to birth control for women who cannot afford it, while only 16 percent were opposed."

Mitt Romney also told Mike Huckabee he’d support an amendment saying life begins at conception — which are code words for fertilization of an egg, meaning that contraceptives including the pill could be construed as murderous.

So it would appear that Rick Santorum and four of the other candidates are again on the wrong side of American opinion...but do Americans really know that?

01-13-2012, 04:10 PM

artelsbest
Norristown, PA
Posts: 1

Rick Santorum was the junior senator of my state when Arlen Spectre was still around. If you want to be a senator of any state you must reside in that state and have a history to tell to your neighbors. Mr.Roman Catholic lived outside of our state and our people paid for his kids private schools. You can imagine how the people of Pennsylvania felt when we heard this.Plus,he literally lived and was deeply connected to K street.He stood shoulder to shoulder with "The Hammer". Tom Delay is a personality that someone may want to investigate when you have time. Santorum had great respect for Tom Delay and his policies. My advice is to make sure this man can't win due to his politics and background.

01-15-2012, 12:20 AM

Mr.H.W.
Not Selected
Posts: 3

I also found a great article about this: Reason #1 to Support Santorum: He Will Lose.

I won't post excerpts but the general idea is that Santorum is so unelectable that his nomination would torpedo any chance the GOP has of defeating Obama, and meanwhile his "Google problem" will tarnish the GOP's name.

It appears to be an ongoing campaign to convince liberals and progressives to rally around Santorum in the primaries, they have other good articles there, in the same vein: A call to all progressives, liberals, and anyone else sick of Republican extremism
Who should join the Santorum campaign?

01-15-2012, 04:51 AM

CARLITOS BAM-BAM
Dallas, TX
Posts: 897

Sort of like Rushbo's "Operation Chaos" in the 2008 Democratic Primaries?

I think Romney is treading on real thin ice, with the minimum wage + GM comments, but Santorum is still a fruit.

Ron Paul looks to me like he still has a chance at the nomination. The herd is still moving and capturing more and more of the deranged vote, even while Paul loses his charm to reasonable people once they get to know him a bit better.

Anyways, Romney is not going to beat Obama. None of these candidates can.
These candidates are absolute scoundrels and the American people see right through them.
Somehow, someway these candidates have made clear their intentions to destroy everything we as a nation hold dear, one way or another. Obama's made some terrible mistakes and he's still making many, but the GOTP has only offered worse.

Time to repent GOTP. You can start by letting the Last Republican Left among you, the honorable Gov. Buddy Roemer of Louisiana, speak in maybe just one of your debates.

This is the most ridiculous election I have ever seen. Huntsman is a goddamn weirdo too and it ain't the Mormonism, it's the pop-culture references and snotty nose.

I don't know. Can we take anything serious anymore? Stephen Colbert is now running a write-in candidacy in South Carolina.

This is all too painfully funny to watch anymore.

02-08-2012, 06:50 AM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 1058

So what does Rick Santorum's non-binding wins in Minnesota, Missouri and Colorado tell us? My take on it is that the evangelicals came out in force for Santorum while other factions of the party yawned. Certainly the negativity by both Gingrich and Romney played a part. And we can't dismiss the fact that when the "non-Romney Republicans" met in Texas a few weeks ago to reach a consensus on a candidate to oppose Romney, they chose Rick Santorum.

How much did the Council for National Policy influence the decision? Remember they heavily influenced McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate based on her "Christianity."

El Paso County (Colorado Springs) in my home state went heavily for Santorum. That was not a surprise. What surprised me is the level of support for Santorum across Colorado and again that's a testament to the power that the evangelicals hold in the Republican Party. Democrats might relish the thought of Obama opposing Santorum in the Presidential election, but unless they can get on in full force behind Obama we just might have a President Santorum to knock instead of Obama.

If you like Santorum's rigid evangelical stand on abortion, gay rights, and contraceptives than he's your man.

“One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country...Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that’s okay, contraception is okay. It’s not okay. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.” -- Rick Santorum

02-09-2012, 12:09 PM

Suzanne2012
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Posts: 2

I sincerely hope that Santorum becomes the Republican candidate for President, as I don't think he has a snowball's chance in h*ll of getting elected in a general election.

http://snotrockets.com/politics/2012-presidential-race/rick-santorum-represents.../

02-14-2012, 08:23 PM

Tris1995
Raleigh, NC
Posts: 1

My friend is an avid supporter of Santorum, but today after much intelligent disscussion, he decided to finally convert. I was able to convince him abou issues such as healthcare, and troops in the Middle East. GOBAMA!

02-15-2012, 08:05 AM

that guy in Arizona
Flagstaff, AZ
Posts: 158

Glenn Beck recently proclaimed that Rick Santorum "was the next George Washington":

In the attached video, Rush Limbaugh is quoted as saying, "It would be great if he could get to the White House".

http://www.nationalmemo.com/article/rick-santorum-next-george-washington-video

In September of 2006, CREW (Citizens from Responsibility and Ethics in Washington) ranked Santorum as one of the most corrupt members of the Senate. Since the entire field of Republican candidate field is laughably inept, the only possible explanation that I can offer for their popularity in the various Republican primaries is that far too many people spend too much time listening to talk radio, and watching FOX news, instead of R-E-A-D-I-N-G.

If you're curious about who the most corrupt members of Congress were in 2011, the updated list is attached below:

http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/mostcorrupt

02-15-2012, 10:25 AM

Veronica
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Posts: 205

Some really good information on this thread. I had not paid too much attention to Santorum until this last week, when he suddenly jumped up in the charts & did a few Olympic style somersaults.
His ascendance has been dazzling, until you hear his stance on women's health issues, & that blows the whole scenario for most women voters. But do not rest easy that the voters of America will be so bright & well-informed that they will cast these GOP Bozo's out by the wayside. In the last 48 years, 2 elections have been decided by assassination, "W's" 2 elections were "rigged", & Nixon was forced to resign due to "dirty tricks" while trying to manipulate HIS election. The USA has not had a terrific track record lately. Except for Clinton's & Obama's election, of course. What point I am making (so poorly) is that we COULD see another attempt at "rigging" the election of either Rick Santorum or Mitt Romney, et al. Making our opinion polls or VOTES totally irrelevant.

02-16-2012, 11:08 AM

jo/colo.
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Posts: 1

I find it rather interesting that any man thinks he can be in charge of a woman's uterus!! Quite frankly it is ultimately a woman's choice and/or if there is a significant other in-volved. What about the taking home of the stillborn to show the siblings? What on God's green Earth was that about? To show that there is life and death? I can't believe they act-ually want this guy for President?!?! And then there is Mitt! What an absolute moron!!! Any-one who puts a dog in a kennel and straps it to the roof of his car!!! He needs to be put up there!! I really can not fathom these two morons making executive decisions of any type. We are running out of resources to keep this planet going and adding more people for the lack of birth control is not a good idea. More will be revealed... oh and the economy has turned around and Bin Laden and Khaydafi are history!!! Ooh-rah!

02-16-2012, 01:50 PM

Veronica
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Posts: 205

Recently Rick Santorum & like-minded GOP candidates have tried to make it mandatory for any woman who wants or needs an abortion to undergo vaginal probes or ultrasound procedures (even if her doctor objects, or if she does not consent to it). Since these medical procedures are not necessary to the health of the woman or the fetus, it wastes time & money, & it is only being done for the strange religious convictions of a FEW men who think THEIR ideas are more important than a woman's rights & opinions about her OWN life, & her OWN body. Those GOP men are "control freaks."

Since all these Sanctimonious Hypocritical GOP "Christians" are making Rules for the most private parts of Women's Lives: (pun intended) ---- Here is an additional suggestion:

Even without a man's consent, or his approval, Anytime his wife or girlfriend is forced to undergo any ultrasound, or vaginal probe to determine the age of the fetus.....

simultaneously the man must be strapped to an electric probe to be placed up his anus, to determine
the age of his hemorrhoids. As the voltage gets higher, he must recite from the GOP (Santorum Edition) BIBLE: "Be careful what ye DO unto others, lest ye wish them do it also unto YOU."

Afterwards, in the BUSH-CHENEY Chapel & Sanctuary,(rigorous attendance requirements will be enforced) are held weekly purification rites, the ceremonial "water-boardings" -- often used to encourage CONFESSIONS (good for the soul)-- followed by Holy Baptism.

---this article is loosely derived from the Conservative Catechism:
Mix one part "pseudo-Christianity" with 2 parts "Skull & Bones".

02-16-2012, 02:20 PM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 1058

Foster Friess, Rick Santorum's "sugerdaddy" has just come out on MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell show with this (as per the Washington Post):

“This contraception thing, my gosh, it's so inexpensive,” Freiss told host Andrea Mitchell. “You know, back in my days, they'd use Bayer aspirin for contraceptives. The gals put it between their knees and it wasn't that costly.”

"Mitchell was visibly taken aback. “Excuse me, I’m just trying to catch my breath from that, Mr. Freiss, frankly” she said after a few seconds. “Let’s change the subject.”"

Wow...these guys are really far out there when it comes to joking about women's issues.

02-17-2012, 01:56 PM

Mr. Ed
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Posts: 5

Unfortunately the problem lies within both parties...but to comment on your point about rigging an election, you fail to recall the issues in PA and other locals where voter intimidation occurred, or when ballots from the deceased were cropping up. All I'd like to point out is that you look at picture from all angles. Corruption exists in politics and it you and me who are the whipping post for the elected ones.

02-17-2012, 04:46 PM

llagerdog
Hagerstown, MD
Posts: 72

OK, the $73K Santorum used to enroll his kids into on-line education programs at the expense of a PA school district was totally wrong. He must have rectified that greedy deed by now, otherwise his current political foes would have been beating him over the head with it by now.

However, I see no foul with Santorum buying a home in Great Falls, VA while serving as a high ranking GOP member within the US Senate, enabling him to commute home to be with his family every evening. These living arrangements happen frequently among members of Congress.
I was a student at the University of South Dakota in the 1970's when George McGovern (a Democrat) owned a home in Maryland. McGovern rarely made it back to South Dakota unless he was campaigning (whether it be for the Presidency or the US Senate). While maintaining a South Dakota address, McGovern was in MD, DC, or CT on a continual basis.

I have no issue with George McGovern. Other than his being too liberal for my taste, he did many good things in serving his country, both on the battlefield and in Congress. However, it is funny how liberals have no problems with residency flaws among their own.

In closing, I will give Rick Santorum this much credit. He has spent dozens of more years actually residing within Pennsylvania, in comparison to Hillary Clinton's tenure as a New Yorker. I guess liberal practice is to turn a blind eye to residency carpetbagging too, especilly if it can give them an edge in gaining a highly touted Senate seat.

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