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01-03-2012, 10:15 PM

CARLITOS BAM-BAM
Dallas, TX
Posts: 897

I'm tracking reports flowing in:

@ 10:03PM CT, AP has got Santorum in first place and Buddy Roemer has recieved a sum total of 44 caucus votes.

Iowa Republicans are bat#### ####### crazy. History proves this over and over. The caucus needs to be pushed back. Voters like this do not deserve the nation's attention.

The Big Weird, Big Stupid, Big Darkness is just warming up. Get ready for worse. We're Beyond Thunderdome. Buckle up and bunker down. Welcome to 2012.

01-04-2012, 12:20 AM

CARLITOS BAM-BAM
Dallas, TX
Posts: 897

My candidate got less than 50 votes in a state-wide "Republican" caucus. Buddy Roemer is truly the Last Republican Left.

"Until the big checks are out of the room, decent people will never be heard."- Buddy Roemer

"If the Tea Party does not stand for a better America, why do you exist?"-Buddy Roemer

"I stand with Occupy Wall Street."-Buddy Roemer

I stand with Roemer. I stand with Occupy Wall Street. I stand for a better America. Campaign Finance Reform Now.

Occupy Congress. 1/17/12. Bring Tent.

01-05-2012, 08:14 AM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 1058

After getting a first hand view of what the Citizen's United ruling did in the Iowa Caucus campaign, campaign finance reform should be high on everyone's agenda. Endless attack ads by anonymous Super Pacs saturated the airwaves in Iowa, and even Newt Gingrich was complaining about Romney's Super Pacs (which Romney cannot control). These ads were noteworthy more for their "anti" other candidate content and the shear number of ads rather than saying anything positive about their candidate.

It will be interesting to watch what happens in Montana, a red state. Montana has had a law on the books for 99 years that prohibits corporate contributions. From the Missoulian:

On Friday, the Montana Supreme Court, in a 5-2 ruling, overturned a state District Court decision that had struck down Montana's 1912 voter-passed law prohibiting corporate contributions in state political campaigns. District Judge Jeffrey Sherlock had declared the Montana law unconstitutional after the U.S. Supreme Court's 2010 decision in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission.

"It's a pretty safe bet the plaintiffs will seek review in the U.S. Supreme Court," said Paul Ryan, attorney for the Campaign Legal Center, a nonpartisan, nonprofit Washington group that advocates strong campaign finance laws.

Will SCOTUS reverse itself on their 5-4 Citizens United ruling? It will likely unite both Democrats and Republicans in Montana against SCOTUS if they do...

01-05-2012, 11:33 AM

CARLITOS BAM-BAM
Dallas, TX
Posts: 897

Apparently there was some miscounting/misreporting by AP: Roemer only got 31 votes. Hah!

He didn't bother to campaign there and he gave little thought to the political ramifications of his positions on agri-reform.
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Still trying to educate the candidate on what he could be and what MMT offers. Roemers doublespeak has left open the door that he understands our positions and is merely conforming to populist politics in order to positively position himself with Republican voters.

Republicans used to understand MMT: see Reagan advisor and Cato libertarian crank William Niskanen (here). MMT for Evil is the status quo.

01-05-2012, 02:53 PM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 1058

I watched Buddy Roemer on the Martin Bashir show a short while ago, and he made a strong point about his experience as Congressman and Governor...and he also said he would "balance the budget."

He also attacked Barack Obama for not setting an example (like he has) of not accepting PAC money, corporate money, or any contribution more than $100. Bashir countered by saying that, like it or not, it takes money to get on the stage.

Don't think Buddy scored very many points...he came across as angry and bitter. I've seen him do better.

01-06-2012, 02:11 AM

CARLITOS BAM-BAM
Dallas, TX
Posts: 897

Not to be a prick, but I support balancing the budget, properly balancing our budget priorities that is.

Now, I have also heard Roemer say that the deficit is not the problem, government spending vs. gdp is.

All MMT says is that for a given level of government spending, there is a level of taxation that corresponds to full domestic employment. With the current size of the demand-output gap, we are overtaxed. Government should either spend more or give working people and those with a propensity to spend massive taxcuts. If Roemer's worried about the management and sustainability of the level of current government spending, he should support a Full FICA payroll tax suspension and per capita transfer payments to state governments, and all simultaneously with the kind of cuts to the bulging diet of ABC government subsidies and tax expenditures to the oligarchical state-socialists that he's talking about. At the last, anti-crony progressivism is the true conservatism. Government handouts to the wealthy far exceed anything most people imagine compared to government spending on the most unfortunate amongst us. Ours is a cruel society ruled by an anarcho-crony super state. I am against this backdoor shadow Marxism. Campaign Finance Reform Now. Restore the Rule of Law, and bring Public-Purpose back to Public-Policy!

That's what I am about. And as a tool, I find Roemer valuable to the cause of Campaign Finance Reform. I think Democratic arguments, that we got to take the corporate money off the street, or it will be used against us or our interests, is the same thing James Trafficante said about the Mafia money he took, and what Ron Paul has said about the money he is still taking from White Supremacists.

What they're really saying is that it is harder to do the right thing.....and we are in moral rot.

Well, I subscribe to a belief that we should do the right thing and big things, "not because they are easy, but because they are hard." JFK, from Rice-Moon speech (here).

But again on the deficit, what we have is more doublespeak from Roemer. If the deficit is not the problem, as I've heard him say, what does he mean when he says he wants to balance the budget? Valid questions.

Same problems with POTUS, although I don't think Obama has actually said he wants to balance the budget in the Clintonian sense. He's talked about reducing it by half, but he's never used the words "balance the budget."

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Oh yeah, Romney's new tax plan is MMT for Evil. Adds $600 billion to deficit by 2015 even with $1.2 trillion in automatic trigger spending cuts in 2013 (here). Predictably, Romney's plan includes tax cuts for the wealthy and tax increases on the lower and middle classes.

It's pretty clear the political class understands more than they are willing to explain to voters. Romney will try to shake this accounting off, but who's going to believe him? And frankly, what will the Republicans care? Fascist super-state soon come, you bet. Big Darkness Forever.

"Everyday is Exactly the Same"- NIN

01-06-2012, 10:39 PM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 1058

I watched Buddy Roemer again tonight on the Rachel Maddow show. He was impressive...and no anger. This was the third time he was on Rachel's show, and perhaps the two of them have a better rapport.

I suppose Buddy's demeanor depends on the interviewer. Buddy's campaign finance reform seems to resonate with Rachel more than with Martin Bashir.

And she said she was going to meet him at a bar after the show to carry on the conversation.

Watch it here at the Rachel Maddow Show.

01-08-2012, 10:03 AM

CARLITOS BAM-BAM
Dallas, TX
Posts: 897

Again.....what I like about Roemer:

He's the only conservative, that I have ever seen on the national stage, willing to rethink his positions and entirely open to full-fledged debate.

I disagree with many of his positions, but I respect his willingness to hear people like me out.

Now, I do consider him a progressive, a progressive-conservative.

We've got to do more than win elections. We have got to change minds. Roemer is an infection of reason in the GOTP.

As I have said before, this is an invasion.

01-10-2012, 01:17 AM

GoodScience
Sanibel, FL
Posts: 8

How do I report inappropriate language by EL PREZIDENTE KABOOM ? This post is offensive and has no supporting material. It is just an ignorant person sounding off.

01-10-2012, 03:12 AM

CARLITOS BAM-BAM
Dallas, TX
Posts: 897

Nobody's ever objected to my foul language before and I've said a lot worse. A bigger problem might be my Roemer man-crush and my dissident bipartisanship. Progressivism ought to have two party wings, just like Wall Street. I may not be a progressive-conservative, but I am their ally in their fight to restore sanity in the Republican party.

I'll delete my use of the f word for community good. I don't want to be any more of a problem than I might already be.

And whatever else you object to you are free to point out in more detail. I apologize for the foul language. These are strange days and I tend to get carried away in them.

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