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11-22-2011, 03:35 PM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 1058

Reference: David Frum, New York Magazine, November 20, 2001, When Did the GOP Lose Touch With Reality?

David Frum, as many of you may know, was the speech writer for George W. Bush and a Republican: Frum states, "I believe in free markets, low taxes, reasonable regulation, and limited government. I voted for John McCain in 2008, and I have strongly criticized the major policy decisions of the Obama administration. But as I contemplate my party and my movement in 2011, I see things I simply cannot support."

In this well written article for the New York Magazine he talks about what the Republican Party used to represent, citing numerous examples of what they used to support, but now are against because of Tea Party influence and anti-Obama fervor. Quoting Frum:

"The Tea Party...movement has failed time and again to produce even a remotely credible candidate for president. Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich... A political movement that never took governing seriously was exploited by a succession of political entrepreneurs uninterested in governing—but all too interested in merchandising. Much as viewers tune in to American Idol to laugh at the inept, borderline dysfunctional early auditions, these tea-party champions provide a ghoulish type of news entertainment each time they reveal that they know nothing about public affairs and have never attempted to learn. But Cain’s gaffe on Libya or Perry’s brain freeze on the Department of Energy are not only indicators of bad leadership. They are indicators of a crisis of followership. The tea party never demanded knowledge or concern for governance, and so of course it never got them."

Frum further describes Fox News and other conservative media business models as being built on "provoking the audience into a fever of indignation (to keep them watching) and fomenting mistrust of all other information sources (so that they never change the channel)...where they "immerse their audience in a total environment of pseudo-facts and pretend information."

Frum concludes with these words for his party: "The party with a stronger charge on its zapper right now, the party struggling with more self-imposed obstacles to responsible governance, the party most in need of a course correction, is the Republican Party. "

Read David Frum's entire article and his "dastardly wrong" view of his party at the above link. It makes for fascinating reading, and it is good journalism.

11-22-2011, 10:16 PM

that guy in Arizona
Flagstaff, AZ
Posts: 158

Schmidt:

I made the mistake of voting for George W (twice), which I'll always regret, so it is graifying to read that a life long Republican has come to the realization that "the Grand Old Party" has become hostage to a few genuine crackpots (the Koch brothers and Grover Norquist), which (oddly enough) will help Barck Obama to get re-elected.

John McCain was doing well in the polls until he picked Sarah Palin as his running mate.
After a few "dead on" SNL skits, enough people came to the realization that she was (for lack of a better term) a little wacky, which largely describes the current GOP slate for President.

11-23-2011, 01:03 AM

CARLITOS BAM-BAM
Dallas, TX
Posts: 897

Well....there's is one man in the Republican field who deserves our attention.

The Last Republican Left, Buddy Roemer.

This is his Big 3 platform.
1. Campaign Finance Reform
2. Corporate Tax Reform
3. Fair Trade
He takes $100 donations, per contributor. Maximum. Period. No PAC or S-PAC money.

And he's been held out of every debate.

Gee, I wonder why?

He'd stand up there and call them on their crony-capitalist campaign financing. And while I think Roemer could do so while still technically observing Reagan's 11th Commandment, he'd obviously come close to crossing that line.

That's the man that Roemer is: a Small businessman. Main-street banker. Methodist. Reagan Democrat turned Republican. He fought corruption his entire life in politics; as a two-time governor of Louisiana and member of the House. He replaced corrupt governors both times in office. Voters remember him as one of the good ones.

I am not a Republican. I don't agree with Roemer's macroeconomic ideas. I don't like his Reagan fetish. But I would betray the principles that I stand for by not supporting Roemer in his endeavors.

In a sane country, a politician like Buddy Roemer would be honored, and the news media would demand his participation in the debates.

Occupy Both Parties. If Wall Street does it, why don't we?

Campaign Finance Reform NOW! Term-Limits Now!

Occupy Everything.
Buddy Roemer 2012!

11-24-2011, 11:14 PM

jumpnjac
Nashville, IN
Posts: 4

THE TEA PARTY HAS FOUND THAT DR.RON PAUL THEGODFATHER OF THE MOVEMENT AND HAS ORGANIZED A MONEY BOMB FOR HIM DECEMBER 16TH.HERE COMES SOME BAD NEWS IF THE GUYS WEARING THE GUY FOX MASKS ARE CELEBRATING THE INSPIRATION FOR THE BIGGEST POLITCAL ONE DAY CONTRIBUTION ON GUY FOX DAY TO AND HERE COMES THE BAD NEWS TO RON PAUL. I AM HAVING QUITE ALOT OF PROBLEM WITH OUR LOCAL TOWN MULTIMILLIONARES WHO RUNS HOTELS OWNERSHIP OF STORES AND MAJOR SHAREHOLDER OF LOCAL BANK AS WELL AS OTHER HOLDING .THE PROBLEM IS HE'S NOT A REPUBLICAN HE'S A DEMOCRAT AND I KEEP TRYING TO KEEP HIS MONEY IN OUR COUNTY RATHER THAN SENDING IT TO WASHINGTON AND HAVE OBAMA GIVE IT TO GOLMAN SAKS BY WAY OF AIG IT MAKES HIM SEEM LIKE A REPUBLICAN.YOU SEE HE PAYS LOTS OF PEOPLE THROUGH OUT THE YEARS AT HOTELS RESTAURANTS AND BARS HE'S FINANCED MANY LOCAL BUSINESS THAT HE COULDN'T DO IF HE SENT HIS MONEY TO WASHINGTON FOR OBAMA TO INVEST IN SOLYNDRA.I AM ALSO HAVING A PROBLEM WITH EXPLAINING BARRACK OBAMA STAND ON KEEPING BLACKS IN JAIL WITH FAILED DRUG POLICIES AND DR RON PAUL WANTING THEM TO GO FREE ON NON VIOLENT DRUG CHARGES,HE MUST HAVE GOTTEN USE TO KEEPING PEOPLE IN JAIL AFTER NOT CLOSING GITMO AFTER MAKING BIG SHOW OF HOW HE WAS KEEPING HIS CAMPAIGN HIS FIRST WEEK IN OFFICE. WELL AT LEAST HE HAS THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE TO FALL BACK ON-ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SO SURE THAT THE AWARD MIGHT HAVE LOST SOME OF IT'S PRESTIGE IN YEMEN AND PAKISTAN AND SOME LIBYANS THAT MADE IT THROUGH THE BOMBING.NOBEL PEACE PRIZE NOTWITHSTANDING HE IS 3 FOR 3 IN ASSASINATIONS OF TERRORISTS AND I FEEL REAL SAFE NOW.(do they update list so that there in now a new #! terrorist?){sort of real safe}
I WANT TO HELP THE PRESIDENT AS HE IS NOT RESTING UNTIL AMERICA IS BACK TO WORK.THERE'S A GREAT BIG PIPELINE THAT IS BEING STOPPED IN MONTANA THAT WILL GO FROM THE CANADIAN BORDER TO LOUISIANA WITH CLEAN BURNING NATURAL GAS WHICH IS NOT IN THE HANDS OF GOVERNMENTS WITH SPOTTY REPUTATIONS IN FACT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE CANADIANS ARE REAL NICE PEOPLE AND UNBELIEVABLY POLITE AS THEY HAVE NOT ONCE CALLED HIM A HYPOCRITE WHY DOESN'T HE GO UP TO MONTANA AND HE CAN GO HAND IN HAND WITH TED TURNER OUT WHERE THE BUFFALO ROAM AND ASSURE THE ENVIORMENTALIST THERE SHOULD NEVER BE HEARD A DISCOURAGING WORD WHEN UNION OPERATING ENGINEERS, TEAMSTERS WELDERS AND EVEN PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF A ONE TIME CARD CARRYING UNION LABORER WILL BE IN FOR SOME REALLY BIG PAYCHECKS AS UNION AND COMPANIES WANT TO GET PIPE IN THE GROUND AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE WORKING 6/10S OR EVEN BETTER7/12S MAKES FOR SOME SKIES THAT ARE SHINEING ALL DAY.

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