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2011-02-22 06:01 PM

sbfriedman
Denton, TX
Posts: 931

I don't mean to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this is nothing that I haven't heard before. In fact, I've been hearing it from several different reputable sources since September 11th. Now, whatever actually happened seems to be clouded by much disinformation.

I ran into this video, done by BBC channel with actual CNN footage, claiming that Al-Qaeda was never an organization of any threat. In fact, Bin Laden was never the leader or commander to begin with. The United States (Bush Administration) morphed their small group of discontented militant Muslims and turned them into a global terrorist organization, including dubbing the name "Al-Qaeda to begin with. How off base is this? Does this have any merit? Watch:

2011-02-22 10:01 PM

CARLITOS BAM-BAM
Dallas, TX
Posts: 897

9/11 Mindf%&#ed the American Dream....nearly 10 years out, everything is still as surreal as it was in the moment that the North Tower was first struck. America may never recover until this generation has past. To this day, the attacks remain an enigma, like a riddle straight out of Orwell. "Does the Brotherhood exist?" Nobody f$%#ing knows. And it's a disaster for morale.

2011-08-09 03:48 PM

JP Cusick
Hollywood, MD
Posts: 4

sbfriedman Wrote:

I ran into this video, done by BBC channel with actual CNN footage, claiming that Al-Qaeda was never an organization of any threat. In fact, Bin Laden was never the leader or commander to begin with. The United States (Bush Administration) morphed their small group of discontented militant Muslims and turned them into a global terrorist organization, including dubbing the name "Al-Qaeda to begin with. How off base is this? Does this have any merit?

I figure all of that is correct as the Bush Administration needed an enemy and the enemy needed a name and a myth.

I find a more significant claim is that when bin Laden was running away from Afghanistan into Pakistan then surely the US military knew where he was and they let him escape because the criminal Bush Administration really wanted to invade Iraq and to get Saddam Hussein, so by letting bin Laden escape they could keep the drama alive and they figured they could get bin Laden at some later date.

It would have been non-productive to kill the one man bin Laden when their bigger goal was to create the dishonest justification to get Saddam Hussein and Iraq.

Directly after the 9-11 attack Bush said he did not want to spend a $100,000 missile just to kill sheep herders in Afghanistan.

2011-09-12 09:07 AM

Chapmanooka
Not Selected
Posts: 3

The Years of Shame

Is it just me, or are the 9/11 commemorations oddly subdued?

Actually, I don’t think it’s me, and it’s not really that odd.

What happened after 9/11 — and I think even people on the right know this, whether they admit it or not — was deeply shameful. The atrocity should have been a unifying event, but instead it became a wedge issue. Fake heroes like Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, yes, George W. Bush raced to cash in on the horror. And then the attack was used to justify an unrelated war the neocons wanted to fight, for all the wrong reasons.

A lot of other people behaved badly. How many of our professional pundits — people who should have understood very well what was happening — took the easy way out, turning a blind eye to the corruption and lending their support to the hijacking of the atrocity?

The memory of 9/11 has been irrevocably poisoned; it has become an occasion for shame. And in its heart, the nation knows it.
I have followed Mr Krugman for years and THIS has to be his MOST honest blogpost!!!

2011-10-04 10:23 AM

WeThePeople
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Posts: 7

This is the biggest bunch of nonsense I think I have ever read. Spread the truth not conspiracies - It takes a bit more effort to find the truth but it is worth the effort.

First of all Al-qaeda has it roots clear back to the 1980's, after the Soviets left Afganistan, and was not invented by Bush or his cronnies. Al-qaeda had been carrying out terrorist attacks for decades before 9/11. In Fact Saudi Arabia had captured Bin Laden (After the US embassy was bombed) and he was offered to Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton turned down the transfer of Bin Laden who was now on the FBI's most wanted list. After the US Cole bombing, also credited even at that time to Al-qaeda and Bin Laden, Bill Clinton responded by sending in a few tomahawk missles into afganistan has his response - obviously the tomahawks missed their intended goal at killing Bin Laden. During the trial of Oliver North, Oliver North specifically called out the threat of Bin Laden and Al-qeada.

Secondly, Did Kerik, Giuliani and Bush make the most of 9/11 politically? Damn straight they did all politicians would- Any of them Democrat or Republican would eat a live kitten if it would get them elected.

And the truth, the REAL TRUTH, about 9/11 and the US invasion of Afganistan and Iraq was that having the US invade a Muslim country as a response for 9/11 was why 9/11 occured - but this was not because it was planned out that way by the US Government it is because it was planned out by Al-qeada. 9/11 had the exact effect that Al-Qeada wanted. They wanted an attack and invasion to occur to incite more Muslims into the war against the west and we fell for it hook, line and sinker - Face it it doesn't take much to fool and sucker in a politician, especially Bush. This should have been absolutely clear when the US demanded Afganistan(the Taliban) surrender Bin Laden and they didn't. The Taliban knew they wouldn't last or be able to withstand an invasion by the US. They also knew that by taking a stand we would not be able to just send in missles and call it a day as civilian causualties wouldn't be tolerated. By making their stand and keeping civilians close at hand it guarenteed that we would have to send in troops. They played us, and played us well.

This information came directly from Saif Al-Adel (a know Al-Qeada agent) through a document entitled "Al-Qeada's strategy through 2050" that states the following goals:
1)Provoke the United States into invading a Muslim country.
2)Incite local forces into fighting the invaders.
3)expand the conflict to neighboring countries.
4)Franchise Al-qeada into loosely governed cells to attack countries supporting the US (Madrid bombings, london bombings) to reduce support.
5)Cause the collapse of the us financial system by overburdening the nation with the cost of wars.

If Bush had wanted to not kill Bin Laden while in office in order to use him as an excuse for invading Iraq why would he have NOT killed him after getting the war started- Think of the political clout it gave Obama for carrying out the deed. Bush or any neocon would not have allowed that to happen.

So, the scary truth here is even scarier that your conspiracy and that is that the terrorist group is out playing our government, our military and our inteligence services. They (terrorists) put the ball in motion and we have fallen for every one of their plays and done just as they wanted us to do. Meanwhile, back in the states rather than trying to uncover the truth we are diving ourselves into a right vs left as instructed by our right or left extremist government entities in order for them to get reelected/elected. Meanwhile the true enemy of the US laughs at us and the "reality TV" show that our nations governing body has become.

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