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2011-02-15 12:13 AM

Oobie
Spearfish, SD
Posts: 2

Speaker of the House John Boehner says it's not his job to tell people what to think, even if what they think is clearly not true. That kind of numbed my mind for a while, until I decided to blog about it. Check it out here.

http://oobiedoo.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/accepting-ignorance/

2011-02-15 09:24 AM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 1058

Thanks Oobie for sharing your blog article. It is well written and I agree with you. While I have addressed the many "tools" of the Republican agenda...anger, hate, fear, religion, greed, hyper-patriotism, lies and maybe a few others, none of them would or could have the sway over their believers without "ignorance." It's why the plutocracy that controls the Republican Party is so steadfastly against education. An educated populace would not embrace many of the Republican ideologies that go against their best economic and social interests.

Your blog article was also about John Boehner, an enigma for me as I read about his childhood growing up with his eleven siblings in a household with modest means and good working class values. Obama paid compliment to Boehner's roots in his SOTU speech. One would normally expect that with shared childhood experiences, he would show more empathy for those that have been less fortunate in life. But instead he has abandoned those values and let his "dark side" take over...one of greed and temptation defined by his Country Club lifestyle of golfing with his lobbyist friends and otherwise catering to their selfish interests. I suppose Boehner struggles with the cognitive dissonance of two opposing worldviews...those defined by his roots and the other his dark side...and maybe that's why he cries.

I would hope that Obama is successful in implementing his "education and innovation" agenda. Part of that agenda is to bring high speed internet into rural America so that this part of America can share in a broader intellectual discourse of American politics that is now largely controlled by right wing talk radio and Christian talk radio. That's why rural America, some of the hardest working and honest people you can find in our country, succumb to the right wing fear mongering targeted against Obama...his birth place...his religion...his "socialism"...and vote against their best economic interests. Those of us that write in forums and blogs do so because we want to share ideas and thoughts, and we would hope that others are reading and reflecting upon our views. With high speed internet, many in rural America do not get to share in the discussion and debate that we enjoy in the bigger cities, especially university cities.

Oobie, thank you for sharing and engaging in that debate. I have quickly browsed your other blog articles and have become one of your fans.

"Opinions are formed in a process of open discussion and public debate, and where no opportunity for the forming of opinions exists, there may be moods -- moods of the masses and moods of individuals, the latter no less fickle and unreliable than the former -- but no opinion." - Hannah Arendt

2011-02-15 09:30 PM

Oobie
Spearfish, SD
Posts: 2

I very much appreciate your interest in the blog.

I've always been at a loss for how some people can seem to be so willfully ignorant on some issues. After the State of the Union I remember tuning into Fox News to see how they spun things, and the major complaint there was that the president only speaks in broad concepts, never how he's going to do the things he says, as if he doesn't know HOW to do those things. And the next day I remember hearing all sorts of people repeating that same line. And even when I pointed out that there's a website up that details all of the president's new policies, they still decided that didn't change the criticism that he doesn't know how to do things... even when the evidence to the contrary was available to them at a moment's notice.

If we can't, as a nation, come to the simple agreement that absolute facts come to an absolute conclusion, then there can't ever be the sort of meaningful progress we need.

2011-02-28 08:29 PM

Ty M.
Madisonville, TN
Posts: 1

Oobie Wrote: I very much appreciate your interest in the blog.

I've always been at a loss for how some people can seem to be so willfully ignorant on some issues. After the State of the Union I remember tuning into Fox News to see how they spun things, and the major complaint there was that the president only speaks in broad concepts, never how he's going to do the things he says, as if he doesn't know HOW to do those things. And the next day I remember hearing all sorts of people repeating that same line. And even when I pointed out that there's a website up that details all of the president's new policies, they still decided that didn't change the criticism that he doesn't know how to do things... even when the evidence to the contrary was available to them at a moment's notice.

If we can't, as a nation, come to the simple agreement that absolute facts come to an absolute conclusion, then there can't ever be the sort of meaningful progress we need.

Well said.Opinions never change facts.The entire structure of our lives,the forty hour work week,the weekend,paid vacations,paid holidays,pensions,medical benefits and all other job perks,are the result of and brought to us by the Labor Movement.This is an absolute fact and I despise Tree Party(monkeys)rhetoric assuming we are stupid!God Bless our president for having to deal with such ignorance.Prez needs to learn "you don't earn power,you take it".Minorities and young people especially,need to rise up in 2012 and put and end to the racist Tree Party. Ty M.

2011-05-04 09:40 PM

TxTiket2Ride2
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Posts: 1

Oobie Wrote: Speaker of the House John Boehner says it's not his job to tell people what to think, even if what they think is clearly not true. That kind of numbed my mind for a while, until I decided to blog about it. Check it out here.

http://oobiedoo.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/accepting-ignorance/

He sure doesn't mind telling women what to do or how to think and pulls no punches in sponsoring legislation of H.R. 3, a sweeping anti-abortion bill that passed today and will cause a lot of hardship for women and children who are already desperate. Speaker of the House, John Boehner doesn't care much about anything or anyone who doesn't benefit John Boehner.

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