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What are we doing in Afghanistan?

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07-16-2010, 07:06 AM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 854

Except for the far right, many Americans are questioning our long term stratgey of nation building in Afghanistan. To many of us, no matter what good we do, we are ultimately seen as occupiers. But to leave now, means we are admitting defeat, something that Americans cannot tolerate.

Rachel Maddow in her July 15th segment on MSNBC puts the war in perspective better than anyone, acknowledging the dedication and hard work of our troops, knowing what the mission is, but also questioning whether we can ever win. She brings a first hand perspective having recently visited the country. The video clip is well worth watching and reflecting upon.

Does anyone really think this is a winnable war? Will Obama's long term strategy work?

07-16-2010, 09:24 AM

EL PREZIDENTE KABOOM
Dallas, TX
Posts: 701

Well......I was against this war from the get-go.....but American power and prestige was put on the line.....innocent people supported us and now their lives depend upon us..

I'm like Clark Clifford.....after Tet in '68......Def Sec McNamara and soon to be sec of state Clifford flipped positions... really really pissing LBJ off.....

But today, we got those Taliban bastards cornered in two provinces and they are not the Vietnamese....this is not a jungle....and we've only really just begun to fight......

I'm not sure that Afghanistan exactly needs or wants an American victory over the Taliban, but after all we've been through this century, I'm damn sure this country needs to leave their country on a high note....

Kaboom

P.S. Maddow for President 2016

01-23-2011, 10:29 AM

LLBarry
Beverly, MA
Posts: 299

"A Washington Post-ABC News poll released this week showing that 60 percent of the US population believes that the Afghanistan war is not worth fighting. The war has claimed the lives of 1,436 US troops—489 of them this year—and is costing upwards of $115 billion a year, The poll’s results mark a 20 percent increase in opposition to the war since Obama took office." See article.

So, if so many people are not happy, really why have we not left?

04-24-2011, 05:29 AM

Burnface
Parker, AZ
Posts: 51

Schmidt Wrote: Except for the far right, many Americans are questioning our long term stratgey of nation building in Afghanistan. To many of us, no matter what good we do, we are ultimately seen as occupiers. But to leave now, means we are admitting defeat, something that Americans cannot tolerate.

Rachel Maddow in her July 15th segment on MSNBC puts the war in perspective better than anyone, acknowledging the dedication and hard work of our troops, knowing what the mission is, but also questioning whether we can ever win. She brings a first hand perspective having recently visited the country. The video clip is well worth watching and reflecting upon.

Does anyone really think this is a winnable war? Will Obama's long term strategy work?

Why sugarcoat the fact as Maddow has done and bless the troops, when they are nothing more than cannon fodder for neoconservative foreign policy screw ups. We had no strategy to begin with entering Afghanistan, when we left Bin Laden go from Torah Borah after we had the area heavily blockaded. Its bs to play the DEFEAT will make America look weak in the eyes of the enemy strawman, when both wars have cost Two trillion dollars and nearly six thousand American lives.

08-19-2011, 08:53 PM

Mrkelly
Not Selected
Posts: 2

Yes folks it's time to start winding down in Afganistan, Iraq, Libiya etc...
Bring ourtroops home from middle east and Europe too. We my soon need them in the pacific area of operations.

09-07-2011, 11:48 AM

Montana3
Helena, MT
Posts: 1

As a Marine Drill Instructor at Parris Island, SC during the Vietnam mess, I could put out 75-100 basically trained, physically fit Marines every 13 weeks. We can't do any of this in Afganistan after years of "training" them & countless billions of $? Either we need better trainers or we need to get out and let them figure it out for themselves. Want to "balance" the budget;? Get us out of the Middle East & close the WW II military bases. Those "enemies" from WW II are too old to fight anyway.

09-08-2011, 10:30 AM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 854

Montana3 you hit on a point that I have often wondered about. Why does it take so long to train Iraqis and Afghans for military service? In the states we put young 18 year olds through basic training in a matter of weeks and they are accomplished soldiers ready to fight in these wars. I can appreciate that some of the military equipment is more sophisticated now, but from video clips that I have seen, the Iraqis and Afghans are only using basic military issued rifles. Is the training being drawn out by the contractors to extract more from us tax payers? I don't know...just wondering.

09-13-2011, 03:06 PM

suzanimal
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Posts: 5

How do we get out of Iraq and Afghanistan? The answer is quite simple.
I quote Ron Paul, "The same way we went in, they marched in and we can march them home."
He is the ONLY candidate who says when and how he plans on removing our troops from foreign soil.

Nation Building is nowhere in the Constitution, it's not the role of our military and it's bad foreign policy. The role of our military is to DEFEND OUR COUNTRY - not police the world.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Checked the Contistution, nothing about nation building in there.

Empires nation build and we all know what happens to them.

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