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How Republicans influence the message on Climate Change

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2010-03-06 07:12 AM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 852
Reference: Rasmussen Reports, Energy Update, February 15, 2010

According to this recent Rasmussen poll, "just 35% of U.S. voters now believe global warming is caused primarily by human activity." This compares with 47 percent in a similar April 2008 poll. More revealing, however, is that " 47% think long-term planetary trends are mostly to blame for global warming."

While I can understand that the cold winter and less than knowledgeable "weathermen" have had an effect on public opinion, it hardly explains the public's fixation on planetary trends.  I doubt that the public has that much of an appreciation of the mathematics of interplanetary movements on climate, but if they did, they would understand that planetary trends have indeed been taken into account by climatologists, and that these trends alone cannot explain the global warming trends of the past century.

However, if you look at what the climate change deniers are saying, they have reduced the message to a few simple graphs that correlate historical variations in temperature with solar or planetary activity, ignoring the fact that climatologists have already analyzed these trends extensively as a part of their overall analysis. The deniers make it sound like the climatologists have ignored or distorted critical pieces of information.

Furthermore, the false talking points and distortions of the climate change deniers are repeated over and over again by right wing politicians and their media hosts, primarily Fox News pundits. They demand 100 percent perfection in the scientist's analyses, cherry picking any minor aberration or weather event that seemingly undermines the cause.  But they avoid subjecting their simple analyses to the peer review process that scientists use to validate their findings.  It's an "anything goes" mentality where important facts are dismissed or ignored and the contrary message is reduced to a few simple sound bites...false but effective.  And why?  Just follow the money as to which corporations are contributing to the climate change deniers' false messages and you get the answer.

2010-04-24 07:54 AM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 852
Reference: Brain Merchant, Tree Hugger, Did Republicans Abandon Environmentalism Over the Decade, Apr 22, 2010

Further to my post above, this article by Brian Merchant inTree Hugger suggests that the perceived impact by Americans to the environment has diminshed over the decade, but that "almost the entire shift can be attributed to Republicans' changing views of environmentalists." More specifically, the climate change debate is the defining issue that conservatives have successfully politicized and in turn has influenced overall attitudes on environmentalism.

As Merchant points out, the "conservative leadership has adroitly (but outrageously and incorrectly) framed the notion of climate change as a threat to every American's individual freedom. Cap and trade is an energy tax! Climate change is a hoax designed to let the government elite control your every move! The EPA is going to monitor your very home!"

Merchant notes that "the green movement needs to find ways to address the concerns of conservatives without furthering the divide by simply lambasting politicians who parrot ignorant views on climate."

He is asking for suggestions.  I'll ask how you educate people on climate change that don't want to be educated?
2010-10-16 03:26 PM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 852
I will continue posting on this theme of Republicans opposing (denying) the science of climate change. AlterNet in an October 15th article entitled The GOP's Refusal to Understand the Basic Sciance of Climate Change Threatens the Whole Country, addresses how "one of the defining characteristics of the Republican Party is the near-unanimous denial of the science behind the threat of global warming pollution."

Quoting the National Journal's Ron Brownstein, the authors rightfully point out that "The GOP is stampeding toward an absolutist rejection of climate science that appears unmatched among major political parties around the globe, even conservative ones."

The Koch Industries' Americans For Prosperity No Climate Tax pledge and the FreedomWorks' Contract From America are behind these "climate zombies."The Koch brothers have pumped $1,125,400 into the campaign accounts of congressional candidates and $332,722 to state-level candidates, 87 percent to Republicans, and have contributed $1 million to the Proposition 23 campaign to kill California's AB32 climate legislation.

Now I happen to believe that there are some very intelliegnt Republicans who do believe in the science of climate change and do indeed see climate change as a threat to humanity.  They can't be that stupid. But the Koch brothers and other plutocrats have bought the Republicans...all of them, and now they are part of that collective, marching to the drum of their Borg masters. Resistance is futile.

Their selfish actions are a threat to the whole country...and the whole world.

The recent AlterNet article is quite good.  Read all about the Republican climate change zombies at the above link.
2010-10-17 11:35 AM
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EL PREZIDENTE KABOOM
Dallas, TX
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"CO2 produced from burning fossil fuels or burning forests has quite a different isotopic composition from CO2 in the atmosphere. This is because plants have a preference for the lighter isotopes (12C vs. 13C); thus they have lower 13C/12C ratios. Since fossil fuels are ultimately derived from ancient plants, plants and fossil fuels all have roughly the same 13C/12C ratio – about 2% lower than that of the atmosphere. As CO2 from these materials is released into, and mixes with, the atmosphere, the average 13C/12C ratio of the atmosphere decreases.
.......at no time in the last 10,000 years are the 13C/12C ratios in the atmosphere as low as they are today. Furthermore, the 13C/12C ratios begin to decline dramatically just as the CO2 starts to increase — around 1850 AD. This is exactly what we expect if the increased CO2 is in fact due to fossil fuel burning. Furthermore, we can trace the absorption of CO2 into the ocean by measuring the 13C/12C ratio of surface ocean waters. While the data are not as complete as the tree ring data (we have only been making these measurements for a few decades) we observe what is expected: the surface ocean 13C/12C is decreasing. Measurements of 13C/12C on corals and sponges — whose carbonate shells reflect the ocean chemistry just as tree rings record the atmospheric chemistry — show that this decline began about the same time as in the atmosphere; that is, when human CO2 production began to accelerate in earnest.***"
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/how-do-we-know-that-recent-cosub2sub-increases-are-due-to-human-activities-updated/


This not a matter of experimental science.....this is pure CHEMISTRY....to deny it is to deny all science.
2010-10-21 01:26 PM

Schmidt
Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 852
We have discussed the topic of climate change in other forum posts.  The science of climate change is complex but sound. The global warming deniers put out pseudo-science that is so easily debunked. One of the more notable deniers is John Coleman, a journalist and founder of the Weather Channel but now a TV weatherman.  Mr Coleman dosen't even possess degree in meteorology let alone climatology.  However, his degree in journalism has worked well for him as he has put out slick Power Point presentations denying global warming. His assertions have been picked up as "proof of the great global warming hoax" by the right wing media pundits again and again. But his findings have also been easily debunked.

The Centrist Party, Common Sense for America website has a point by point rebuttal of every one of Coleman's claims.  Refer to their website for this detail, but I'll extract their opening statement"

"It seems strange that Mr. Coleman does apparently little to no research prior to making statements. In this article he relies mainly on insinuation, inference and emotional arguments to claim the science of global warming is wrong. Within the scope of his arguments he makes clearly obtuse errors that are sometimes even comical."

John Coleman joins the ranks of other discredited global warming deniers like Art Robinson, running as a Republcan for Senate in Oregon.  One of Robinson's crazy ideas for nuclear waste is to spread it out in the oceans. If anyone saw him on Rachel Maddow a few weeks ago they'll recognize him.  Wow, who would vote for him is beyond me, but he does have an avid following.
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