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  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Jonathan Chait, New York Magazine, July 8, 2018: Will Trump Be Meeting With His Counterpart — Or His Handler?

    TJ -- Thanks for sharing the above excellent article by Jonathan Chait. It's been something that has been gnawing on me for a long time. I am convinced that Donald Trump has been compromised by the Russians and Putin, but I didn't realize how far back it goes. Chait's article fills in a lot of the gaps for me.

    Oh and that graphical depiction of the Trump and Putin ties reveals a lot for those of us who cannot piece together all the daily events. This should be required reading by everyone.

    I'm sure glad you shared it.

    Yes Tony a long but correct story; every GOP member should read it.
  • Brooks, AB
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    TJ Wrote:

    This was an interesting thing that was on social media this morning.

    nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/t...

    I got about half through this article. While I concur there are probably truths within this article, I believe that these truths will be difficult to prove conclusively.

    If the article is mostly true, then we are witnessing a very complex political conspiracy. I'm finding it a little difficult to believe that the Trump campaign can engineer such a plot. They just are not that smart.

    I think the bigger question that should be asked is why Mr. Trump became such a political force in the first place. It's hard to fathom that he built his support to 62m votes just on Russian influence. We have to understand that he indeed was/is a legitimate political contender. By the rules of the US Constitution, he is the president.

    Even if it can be determined that the Russian influence affected 1m votes which gave him the edge in the electoral college, the other 61m people had different reasons for voting for him.

    And we should put a lot of blame on the D Party for not proffering up a candidate who resonated with the American people. I'm not sure it will learn from this mistake for 2020.

    We need a new system of governance where skulduggery or perceived skulduggery does not become the reason for winning elections.

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    Dave Volek Wrote:
    TJ Wrote:

    This was an interesting thing that was on social media this morning.

    nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/t...

    I got about half through this article. While I concur there are probably truths within this article, I believe that these truths will be difficult to prove conclusively.

    If the article is mostly true, then we are witnessing a very complex political conspiracy. I'm finding it a little difficult to believe that the Trump campaign can engineer such a plot. They just are not that smart.

    I think the bigger question that should be asked is why Mr. Trump became such a political force in the first place. It's hard to fathom that he built his support to 62m votes just on Russian influence. We have to understand that he indeed was/is a legitimate political contender. By the rules of the US Constitution, he is the president.

    Even if it can be determined that the Russian influence affected 1m votes which gave him the edge in the electoral college, the other 61m people had different reasons for voting for him.

    And we should put a lot of blame on the D Party for not proffering up a candidate who resonated with the American people. I'm not sure it will learn from this mistake for 2020.

    We need a new system of governance where skulduggery or perceived skulduggery does not become the reason for winning elections.

    Trump himself might not be smart, but he has hired some lawyers whom are pretty good shysters, they know how to get around our legal system and circumvent laws.

    Shyster:

    NOUN

    informal

    a person, especially a lawyer, who uses unscrupulous, fraudulent, or deceptive methods in business.

  • Independent
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    Since Trump was a "mob" member ( invited those also to parties at Mar-a-Lago) then of course he selects people who fit his background; thus also the lawyers as well Supreme Court justices. The voters should have been aware of that; thus not, because the "vetting" here is not done before the appointment , if so then half ass by an bunch of brainless idiots. I guess the people here get what they voted for because they are uneducated, as Jared says.
  • Brooks, AB
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    Dutch Wrote: Since Trump was a "mob" member ( invited those also to parties at Mar-a-Lago) then of course he selects people who fit his background; thus also the lawyers as well Supreme Court justices. The voters should have been aware of that; thus not, because the "vetting" here is not done before the appointment , if so then half ass by an bunch of brainless idiots. I guess the people here get what they voted for because they are uneducated, as Jared says.

    Watching the American news from Canada, I think there were enough stories coming out to put this connection together. Voters knew about this controversy and many others. They made a choice. But they only had two choices.

    The system is broken. It's time for a new system.

  • Liberal
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    Trump is the "accidental president" who won the election because of voter apathy and ignorance. Unfortunately in a year and a half he has set this country back 50 years in time and has been able to do so because of the inactions of a corrup Congress.

    Voting these crooks and fools out is our only option and knowing the IQ of the typical American voter, not to mention the intrinsic power of a corrupt legislature I fear for this country. Change happened in the 60’s because people demanded it and fought fir it - I don’t really see that happening today (not yet anyhow).

    Dont put all your hopes on the mid-term elections because you may be seriously disappointed.

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    To answer your opening question, Dutch: nobody.

    I must agree that I have little hope for the mid-terms. The sole beacon of hope is the Mueller investigation. If there is enough of a smoking gun then even the radical, reactionary Republican Party might be shamed into impeachment. I am not counting those chickens until they are hatched. I definitely am not counting on the electorate in either 2018 or 2020. I have said that should Trump not leave office voluntarily or be impeached he will run in 2020, he already is, and he will win again.

    Do not underestimate the stupidity of the American people.

  • Independent
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    lonely bird Wrote:

    To answer your opening question, Dutch: nobody.

    I must agree that I have little hope for the mid-terms. The sole beacon of hope is the Mueller investigation. If there is enough of a smoking gun then even the radical, reactionary Republican Party might be shamed into impeachment. I am not counting those chickens until they are hatched. I definitely am not counting on the electorate in either 2018 or 2020. I have said that should Trump not leave office voluntarily or be impeached he will run in 2020, he already is, and he will win again.

    Do not underestimate the stupidity of the American people.

    Yes lonely, right on!!