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Do you think trump will Fire Mueller?

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  • Independent
    Washington
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    Assuming Mueller gets too close to trump's inner circle with indictments, do you think trump will use his presidential powers and have Mueller fired and halt all further investigation into anything related trump? Even if that means he has to fire people who refuse or issue orders that require others to break the law.

    It is easy to imagine trump saying something that is nebulousness where he can't pinned down:

    "I was informed that Mueller acted improperly, so I had to fire him. I had no other choice. It is out of my hands. "

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    Technically Donald can't fire Mueller. He could fire Rod Rosenstein and then go through every Deputy AG until he finds one who is willing to fire Mueller, but I'm just not sure he's ready to start a Constitutional crisis. Congressional Republicans would be in an extremely tough spot, but they have also stood behind their man up until now, so maybe they would give Donald yet another pass.

    I have been proven wrong many times before with Donald, so nothing will surprise me anymore.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Look at it this way, he fired Comey, fired Flynn, and if he fires Mueller, it would make it look like he really does have something to hide, which he probably does. Why else would he be sending tweets trying to degrade the FBI and other investigative and security agencies, if he doesn't?

    As I understand it, Mueller has crossed Trump's red line when Mueller subpoenaed the Trump family financial records of an offshore bank. reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsc...

    Mueller's on the right track, following the money trail.

  • Independent
    Washington
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    Technically Donald can't fire Mueller. He could fire Rod Rosenstein and then go through every Deputy AG until he finds one who is willing to fire Mueller, but I'm just not sure he's ready to start a Constitutional crisis. Congressional Republicans would be in an extremely tough spot, but they have also stood behind their man up until now, so maybe they would give Donald yet another pass.

    I have been proven wrong many times before with Donald, so nothing will surprise me anymore.

    ...and we can see him saying or tweeting: "I didn't fire anybody, the DOJ fired Mueller. Total fake news"

    I have been proven wrong many times before with Donald, so nothing will surprise me anymore.

    As with everyone else; a significant factor as to why his party is afraid to openly denounce him, he could do something that will end their political careers and cripple the party. He loves keeping people unbalanced\unsure\afraid\concerned.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    wwjd Wrote:

    I have been proven wrong many times before with Donald, so nothing will surprise me anymore.

    As with everyone else; a significant factor as to why his party is afraid to openly denounce him, he could do something that will end their political careers and cripple the party. He loves keeping people unbalanced\unsure\afraid\concerned.

    Or he's just clinically insane and his only go to is making people feel unbalanced/unsure/afraid/concerned!

    I think Congressional Republicans are scared of him because they realize they are the people who created this monster by demonizing President Obama for eight years. They didn't push back against Donald when he pushed the birther conspiracy for years and now they are reaping what they sewed.

  • Center Left
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    My most sincere hope is that while his base is faithful and loud. They are anything but representatives of this country. Elections in '18 and '20 will continue to show a deep pool of genuine dissatisfaction.

    Mr. Mueller is rarely discussed by our President. Perhaps too many are afraid to ask hard poignant questions for fear of presidential name calling. Could we seriously make it any easier ? Mr. Mueller should be fine. If he's not, hopefully somebody is videotaping it all on their smart phones or other recording devices.

  • Independent
    Washington
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    Take note that trump is repeatedly saying he is not going to fire Mueller. We know trump can not legally fire Mueller.

    Here is how trump is likely to fire Mueller:

    1) Behind the scenes the WH\trump finds an attorney willing to fire Mueller.

    2) Jeff Session re-assigns Rod Rosenstein to some kind of new special position (or out right fires Rosenstein).

    3) Sessions replaces Rosenstein with the trump hand picked attorney.

    4) Mueller now reports to new attorney.

    5) Short period of time passes (a couple of weeks) and suddenly Mueller is fired and SP team is disbanded

    6) Next day. trump: "I didn't fire anybody. I had nothing to do with it. DOJ was just doing it job"

  • Independent
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    As I think most here are already aware, Fox News is claiming (not reporting facts) that Mueller, his entire team has covert objective of framing trump and other REAL Americans.

    According to Fox News, Mueller is falsifying documents, manufacturing fake evidence, and forcing x-WH staff to lie by threatening to make their family members "disappear" in the middle of the night, and then erasing all records that these people ever were born.

    And, for those believe Fox News, its not just the Master of Evil, Robert Mueller and his corrupt henchmen who doing this, the entire FBI is plotting against trump and so is the CIA. The entire government is scheming to frame trump.

    And let's not forget who are the the evil master mmasterminds behind all this plot: Blackie Barack Obama and Cooked Hillary Clinton. For over a decade they have been planning a COUP to over-throw the US government and take power by dispanning the US Constitution, taking away all guns from Americans, banning Christianity, and forcing Christians women to have abortions unless they convert to Islam.

    This truely off the deep, deep, end stuff. :)

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Yes, I am sick of Fox News and how they are able to make a mockery of the First Amendment. I would normally expect that their viewers would be able to see through their "seditious like" acts against the American people, propping up a party and government that has no moral values or scruples. Fox News brand of fake news appeals to the "deplorables", and what is scary is that Fox News remains number 1 in ratings because of the truth doesn't matter crap that they put out.

    They have accomplished the art of propaganda to a select demographic.

    "All propaganda must be presented in a popular form and must fix its intellectual level so as not to be above the heads of the least intellectual of those to whom it is directed.... The art of propaganda consists precisely in being able to awaken the imagination of the public through an appeal to their feelings, in finding the appropriate psychological form that will arrest the attention and appeal to the hearts of the national masses. The broad masses of the people are not made up of diplomats or professors of public jurisprudence nor simply of persons who are able to form reasoned judgment in given cases, but a vacillating crowd of human children who are constantly wavering between one idea and another." -- Adolf Hitler

    This does not directly address the topic of the firing of Mueller, but when and if it happens at least part of the public will be standing firmly behind Trump.

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Yes Schmidt; your quote says it all. Heil Hitler. I guess they will never learn in this country. With the following elections all the same shit all over, because we refuse to design proper laws in this country. Just let votes count; get the "money" out of elections, as well "vet" the candidates. But yeah why do it "honestly" with common sense, that is no fun!!!