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Alabama Republicans Apparently Nominated a Child Predator for Senate

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  • Center Left
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    Ttyyhhhhjj - sorry. Long story.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Trump tweet?
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Roy Moore is now suggesting voter fraud for his loss. The Alabama election officials need to certify the Doug Jones win by December 26th and no later than January 3rd. Mitch McConnell won't seat Jones until Alabama certifies the election results. Legally Roy Moore cannot have a recount even if his supporters pay for it. There is no provision in the law based on the almost 2 point margin of victory that would allow a recount.

    But voter fraud? That's an entirely different issue. It can tie up the results in the courts for a while giving McConnell more time to get his act together if the tax reform legislation fails. It's a delaying tactic.

    Maybe I'm becoming a conspiracy theorist of sorts but nothing the Republicans do will surprise me any more.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote: Maybe I'm becoming a conspiracy theorist of sorts but nothing the Republicans do will surprise me any more.

    Me either.

    Roy Moore is one hell of a sore loser, but did you expect anything else?! I didn't think that Doug Jones was going to win and I'm sure Roy Moore didn't think Doug Jones was going to win either, so he's grasping at straws now. It may delay the inevitable for weeks or even months, but I still have faith that Jones will be seated.


    You're right though. If the tax scam fails (which is highly unlikely even with McCain not being able to make it for the vote) then McConnell would be well served to have Luther Strange still in the chamber.

    McConnell is a hypocrite due to his insistence that Scott Brown be seated immediately after his shocking win in Massachusetts, but being a hypocrite doesn't disqualify you from controlling the Senate calendar. He doesn't care what the hated Liberals think of him as long as he's able to ensure his very rich buddies are able to get even richer.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Okay, it's official. Roy Moore has officially challenged the results of the election in court citing "voter fraud". He cites a "reasonable degree of statistical and mathematical certainty" as the basis for his lawsuit. I guess you have to hand it to the guy who is doing "God's work". Oh and his challenge is also raising money for his legal battle.

    The election board was to meet on Thursday (Dec 28th) to certify the results, but Moore has obtained a temporary restraining order to postpone the certification. I suppose this means Mitch McConnell has no obligation to seat Doug Jones until this legal challenge is settled. How convenient.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    Okay, it's official. Roy Moore has officially challenged the results of the election in court citing "voter fraud". He cites a "reasonable degree of statistical and mathematical certainty" as the basis for his lawsuit. I guess you have to hand it to the guy who is doing "God's work". Oh and his challenge is also raising money for his legal battle.

    The election board was to meet on Thursday (Dec 28th) to certify the results, but Moore has obtained a temporary restraining order to postpone the certification. I suppose this means Mitch McConnell has no obligation to seat Doug Jones until this legal challenge is settled. How convenient.

    Yes this really shows "christian" fanatism; thank whatever "god" that he did not win. Yes an sore looser. Sick to the bone!
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote: The election board was to meet on Thursday (Dec 28th) to certify the results, but Moore has obtained a temporary restraining order to postpone the certification. I suppose this means Mitch McConnell has no obligation to seat Doug Jones until this legal challenge is settled. How convenient.

    Luckily the judge threw out his lawsuit with prejudice, which means Moore can not appeal the decision and may even be held financially liable for filing a frivolous lawsuit. The state of Alabama then certified Jone's victory 30 minutes later.

    This whole ordeal is over, but I wouldn't be surprised if we haven't heard the last of the child molester who preys on young girls. Unfortunately for him (and fortunately for us) it won't be from the well of the Senate.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I think Moore was deluded from the last minute support from Trump. Now Trump people should start to get the message that the tax deal was a fluke made possible by the majority and reality will be a lot different.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    One thing we can be 100 percent sure of: Roy Moore will never, ever concede. He will, however, raise money off of it.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    I hate to bring up this Roy Moore thread again, but there is an interesting article in the Washington Post this morning about Andy Savage, a pastor at "Highpoint Church, an evangelical Memphis mega-congregation that draws more than 2,000 Sunday worshipers". Savage has been outed by a women, Jules Woodsen, who as a teen was sexually assaulted by Savage. Wooden confronted Savage about his past in an e-mail below:

    “Do you remember that night that you were supposed to drive me home from church and instead drove me to a deserted back road and sexually assaulted me?” Woodson wrote. “Do you remember how you acted like you loved me and cared about me in order for me to cooperate in such acts, only to run out of the vehicle later and fall to your knees begging for forgiveness and for me not to tell anyone what had just happened?”

    She closed with three words and a hashtag. “Well I REMEMBER,” the email said. “#me-too.”

    When Savage failed to respond to her e-mail, she went public with it. Savage dismissed it as a "sexual incident" and apologized for it in front of his congregation. “I am truly sorry more was not done. Until now I did not know there was unfinished business with Jules. So today, I say, Jules I am deeply sorry for my actions 20 years ago.”

    And for that Andy Savage got a 20 second standing ovation from his congregation. This is why Roy Moore and others before him survive in the evangelical community despite their transgressions. As the WP reports, forgiveness is accepted within the evangelical community. Christa Brown an expert on church abuse scandals and coverups says. “Religious leaders use forgiveness theology as a cover, and as an avoidance, of accountability...And it’s a way of further shaming victims. ‘What a bad girl you are, you aren’t forgiving.’”

    Amen.

  • Independent
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    Schmidt, you must know how "evangelicals" act; they are totally indoctrinated, just like a lot of the Trump lovers. They "believe". An wrong word for sure " believe" is not the same as "facts". The same as Republicans, they don't "believe" "facts" either. Thus an "marriage" by both of them made in "heaven". Yes they are running in droves to church to be "forgiven" for all the daily "shit" they create. Must be nice not to have a conscience.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Yes we both know this. We've written about it many times with regards to politicians and clergy. I just felt like highlighting it again since the article appeared in the Washington Post. It just goes on and on and on. And they vote in huge numbers with no remorse. They are a tribe (flock) living within their own bubble, and Donald Trump is their new messiah.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Schmidt Wrote: Yes we both know this. We've written about it many times with regards to politicians and clergy. I just felt like highlighting it again since the article appeared in the Washington Post. It just goes on and on and on. And they vote in huge numbers with no remorse. They are a tribe (flock) living within their own bubble, and Donald Trump is their new messiah.

    It truly is amazing, although it doesn't surprise me anymore. These are the same people who voted for a serial sexual harasser because he promised them he'd nominate judges that will tear down the barrier between Church and State. No one can deny that he's been true to his word when it comes to that.

    That's why Donald and all of these other hypocrites will never be held accountable by their flock. To them the end justifies the means.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Get on TV and cry and sob begging forgiveness and the scum will come out on top and the victims will be totally forgotten. Jimmy Swaggart developed the style and the victims at best are shunned. These cases should be revisited and appropriate penalties ascribed.