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trump is about to kill DACA

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  • Independent
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    abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-mulling-e...

    trump has already made his decision to kill and deport children brought here to the US by their immigrant parents. He is just waiting for the right time so he does not take the blame for it.

    If he does it within the next week, he'll blame it on storm on Texas saying something like "We can't afford DACA because of the storm".

    But let's cut through the BS, he's goal is to piss\shit on President Obama in every way he can, and hurting people that Obama helped is how he is going about it. He does not give a damn about storm victims or dreamers, its about about fucking over Obama as much as possible. It is a sick mentality (mafia thinking) to harm innocent people as method to punish perceived enemies.

    Good chance trump will looses in the courts because if a DACA person has lived here all their lives (or 95%), its becomes a bit like common law wives that have legal claims because it been their life going back 20-30 years. Can't give something to someone, and then revoked it because we have a new president who has already established he prejudicial against minority immigrants.

  • Independent
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    Oh yeah; he will do everything to undo what Obama did. His only purpose in life is to get it his way. I bet the "budget" talks are going to be an disaster; they want to cut everything in healthcare (ACA) whatever is left of it. His border wall has his highest priority; even will cut disaster aid so he gets his way. Sick, as sick as you can become. He belongs in an mental institute with an straight jacket on and an big piece of tape over his ugly mouth.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Crackers had better learn how to pick produce and fruit, and start working in car washes. And oh, they'd better get those low wage jobs like butchering meats too. I can see lots of jobs opening up now.

    Instead of Juan cutting your lawn, it will be John your husband cutting it. He can the neighbor's lawn too.

  • Democrat
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    Why not place a time certain date that all DACA children brought here up to a certain date will be allowed to stay with limited benefits that full citizenship would grant them, and anyone after that date would be deported,
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Why deport at all? If they're here, working jobs, adding to our economy, and paying taxes, let 'em stay.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dockadams Wrote: Why deport at all? If they're here, working jobs, adding to our economy, and paying taxes, let 'em stay.

    Because they are brown, Dockadams. Apparently the poem on the Statue of Liberty only counts for those of European descent.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    That's a fact Jared, Trump wants all who enter the USA to be better vetted, and to have some kind of technical skills, this coming from a man who probably has never, ever seen a green bean growing. And, like anyone else, people come here seeking a job, any job will do, and they make good on their efforts, they work their fingers to the bone, and work themselves up the ladder to better jobs and better pay. But Trump wouldn't understand that because he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and probably has never pissed in a dirty toilet in his life, he is the epitome of an elite, without common sense, maybe even without a brain too.
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    johnnycee Wrote: Why not place a time certain date that all DACA children brought here up to a certain date will be allowed to stay with limited benefits that full citizenship would grant them, and anyone after that date would be deported,

    Praise Jesus.

    Whatever happened to having compassion? Isn't that what your so called savior taught you? Or are you like so many other so called Christians who merely act like you follow your directives as a Christian? I already know the answer because I've been putting up with your hypocritical bullshit for years.

    People like you are the reason organized religion is collapsing in this country. You try to force Christian dogma down our throats while ignoring the teachings of your so called savior at the same time.

    Hypocrites like you make me want to vomit and are the reason I left Christianity.

  • Independent
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:

    Hypocrites like you make me want to vomit and are the reason I left Christianity.

    Everyone is a hypocrite to some degree because we all are blind to some of our faults and\or rationalize them.

    It is fair to say some people are far worse than others and they can come up with some pretty wacko justifications for behavior that is harmful to others (and themselves). IMHO, trump is one of the worst we have seen on the national stage and if he were to be fully interviewed by 10 highly qualified\neutral psychologists, there is a high probability 9 of 10 them would determine he has a serious mental illness because he can so easily rationalize away his harmful behavior, and worse believe that harmful behavior is good for others simply because he benefits from the harm he cause them.

    Example: "It is good end DACA because dreamers really want to be deported back to the country where they were born. We are just giving them what they all really want"

    People like trump truly believe crap like that, and it makes them feel good thinking they are helping people get deported without even knowing a single one.

  • Center Left
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    In symbolism it is whitening the place up. That's all they're asking for. Well tax cuts for the wealthy too. And....
  • Liberal Democrat
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    I've heard all of the reasons for deporting people, the wetbacks are taking our jobs, they're all on welfare, they don't have insurance and rack up huge hospital and medical bills and us taxpayers are paying for all of this. Times have not changed all that much either, there were hateful Americans back when Europeans and people from other countries were fleeing wars, the Americans wanted noting to do with Dagos, Pollacks, Japs, and so on, Americans calling for deporting people is not new, it's been going on forever.

    Trust me when I tell anyone that people will assimilate finely if just given a chance to work things out for themselves, with a little bit of help and not hate from accepting American citizens. People don't come to this country looking for a handout, they came here to work and for a better life. Isn't that all that we want? Let's be nice to immigrants.

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    Dockadams Wrote: People don't come to this country looking for a handout, they came here to work and for a better life. Isn't that all that we want? Let's be nice to immigrants.

    And illegal immigrants tend not to be very picky about what jobs they can get. Want job cleaning shit out of toilets? Sure no problem.

    Those who loose get laid off (or not hired to begin with), are to legal immigrants who are skilled\educated, and are willing to work harder, complain less, not looking for a wet floor to slip on so they have an excuse not to work.

    IMHO, as a general statement, too many of disgruntled American born citizens perceive themselves as being entitled to too much that they personally have never earned. Collectively we expect to be placed at head of line, hired first, for the simple reason we are Americans, and of course White Americans tend to feel the most threaten by new, hard working people coming to this country.

    Ask employers who are their hardest, and most relaible, workers? Who get the job done without bitching throughout the day? Who never call in sick on fridays? Who is always on time?

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: Why not place a time certain date that all DACA children brought here up to a certain date will be allowed to stay with limited benefits that full citizenship would grant them, and anyone after that date would be deported,

    Praise Jesus.

    Whatever happened to having compassion? Isn't that what your so called savior taught you? Or are you like so many other so called Christians who merely act like you follow your directives as a Christian? I already know the answer because I've been putting up with your hypocritical bullshit for years.

    People like you are the reason organized religion is collapsing in this country. You try to force Christian dogma down our throats while ignoring the teachings of your so called savior at the same time.

    Hypocrites like you make me want to vomit and are the reason I left Christianity.

    Jared; I'll second that!!
  • Center Left
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    Not sending them to Russia. Masterful distractions and it's bait and switch. Gonna send them all back. Weeks later, give the wealthy the needed tax breaks to stimulate the top heavy economy and perhaps we will only plan on sending 25% back. We are conned daily while the weeks, months, and years roll by.

    "How's my book about saving America and the world coming along ? - get me another 2 scoops of ice cream".

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: Why not place a time certain date that all DACA children brought here up to a certain date will be allowed to stay with limited benefits that full citizenship would grant them, and anyone after that date would be deported,

    Praise Jesus.

    Whatever happened to having compassion? Isn't that what your so called savior taught you? Or are you like so many other so called Christians who merely act like you follow your directives as a Christian? I already know the answer because I've been putting up with your hypocritical bullshit for years.

    People like you are the reason organized religion is collapsing in this country. You try to force Christian dogma down our throats while ignoring the teachings of your so called savior at the same time.

    Hypocrites like you make me want to vomit and are the reason I left Christianity.