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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The DNC is slacking off. Pelosi fails to identify a Democratic Voice. Everybody else liberal or progressive has struck a chord with the constituency. The DNC needs a wakeup call. Supporting the as is DNC is what cost the election. If jaredsxtn and Schmidt could recognize the trouble the Democratic Party is in and throw support to Bernie and whatever or whoever he wants the country could go back to the people. A unified letter from this forum, a Democratic site, identifying the problems could make this a nationally recognized forum. There is no doubt that this site would be world famous if instead of attacking me from the very outset thoughful objectivity presided. It is already evident the DNC is foundering. Now would be the time to come alive and align with all the other groups Benefiting with a resonance to the mass constituency. What about a resounding effort to identify with the working class and call out the injustices of an economy predisposed to profit and not people?
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    newsweek.com/
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    THE ‘RESISTANCE’ IS MAKING EVERYONE RICHER—EXCEPT FOR NATIONAL DEMOCRATS TAKING ON TRUMP

    By Aidan Quigley On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 14:17

    Despite President Donald Trump’s low approval ratings and record donations for some liberal interest groups, the Republican National Committee (RNC) continues to dominate the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in fundraising.

    The RNC raised $13.5 million in June and has $44.7 million on hand, compared to just $5.5 million for the DNC, which has $7.5 million on hand. The DNC also added $200,000 in debt in June to its now-$3.3 million total debt.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: If jaredsxtn and Schmidt could recognize the trouble the Democratic Party is in and throw support to Bernie and whatever or whoever he wants the country could go back to the people.

    Or it would guarantee yet another Republican victory. The "people" you are talking about in the Democratic Party overwhelmingly chose Secretary Clinton over Senator Sanders. That is a fact. Facts are great because facts are backed up by evidence.

    16,914,722 Democratic voters voted for Secretary Clinton in the 2016 Primaries; 13,206,428 voted for Bernie Sanders. That is a difference of 3,708,294. So nearly four million more DEMOCRATS voted for Secretary Clinton in the 2016 primaries. How in the world have you and so many other people convinced yourselves that Bernie is our savior if he couldn't even win a primary election?

    Chet Ruminski Wrote: There is no doubt that this site would be world famous if instead of attacking me from the very outset thoughful objectivity presided.

    Huh? You think we would be world famous if we just simply followed your lead. Please go on...

    Chet Ruminski Wrote: What about a resounding effort to identify with the working class and call out the injustices of an economy predisposed to profit and not people?

    Hillary Clinton had a detailed platform for how to help the middle-class, but enough angry white people in a handful of swing states overruled the will of the American people.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The polls were right. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by millions of votes. The people chose her, but a bunch of angry white guys in rural America overruled the will of the American people because they just couldn't imagine having a woman as their President.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I also find it interesting how your main argument was that Bernie could have won, but totally ignored the part of my response to you that discussed how millions of more Democratic voters chose Hillary over him.

    That's why I get so frustrated with you. You just change the topic anytime someone calls bullshit.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "Huh? You thi nk we would be world famous if we just simply followed your lead. Please go on.."

    I identified Trump's potential power starting in 15 when he announced. I said that people would be supporting him for no reason and be ashamed to tell people and would distort the polls. I explained that in spite of the obvious contradictions the phenomenon of charisma would get him undeserved and unexplainable support. The results were obvious. He could say anything without recourse. If we had followed and expanded on the obvious including my post of Oct 28 telling why the polls where wrong and Trump would probably win in spite of the polls we would have been the only site in the world that had it right with commentary from the beginning. That would have rated national recognition and coverage.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    "millions of more Democratic voters chose Hillary over him."

    You are denying the underhanded cheating that deprived Bernie of votes.

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    google.com/amp/thehill.com/blogs/pundit...

    "On Wednesday, I wrote about what Hillary Clinton said this week and what she did not say, discussing the reasons she lost the 2016 presidential election. Today, let's consider a far more interesting and important question than why Clinton lost, which is why Bernie Sanders would have won.

    """It is a fact that for well over a year, match-up polls showed that Sanders would have defeated Trump by substantial margins."""

    Favorability polls have similarly and consistently showed Sanders to have substantially higher approval and favorable ratings than Trump."

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    GOP insiders: Pence would beat Clinton - POLITICO

    Politico › story › 2016/10 › would-pence...

    Oct 7, 2016 - Just about any other GOPnominee would have beat Hillary Clinton by an unprecedented number.”.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: The DNC is slacking off. Pelosi fails to identify a Democratic Voice. Everybody else liberal or progressive has struck a chord with the constituency. The DNC needs a wakeup call. Supporting the as is DNC is what cost the election. If jaredsxtn and Schmidt could recognize the trouble the Democratic Party is in and throw support to Bernie and whatever or whoever he wants the country could go back to the people. A unified letter from this forum, a Democratic site, identifying the problems could make this a nationally recognized forum. There is no doubt that this site would be world famous if instead of attacking me from the very outset thoughful objectivity presided. It is already evident the DNC is foundering. Now would be the time to come alive and align with all the other groups Benefiting with a resonance to the mass constituency. What about a resounding effort to identify with the working class and call out the injustices of an economy predisposed to profit and not people?

    Chet -- No need for another new movement. One already exists...it's called "Our Revolution" and Bernie is its leader. Here are a few of their action items:

    What can we do about it?

    • Demanding that the wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share in taxes. Stop corporations from shifting their profits and jobs overseas to avoid paying U.S. income taxes. Create a progressive estate tax on the top 0.3 percent of Americans who inherit more than $3.5 million. Enact a tax on Wall Street speculators who caused millions of Americans to lose their jobs, homes, and life savings.
    • Increasing the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 an hour by 2020. In the year 2015, no one who works 40 hours a week should be living in poverty.
    • Putting at least 13 million Americans to work by investing $1 trillion over five years towards rebuilding our crumbling roads, bridges, railways, airports, public transit systems, ports, dams, wastewater plants, and other infrastructure needs.
    • Reversing trade policies like NAFTA, CAFTA, and PNTR with China that have driven down wages and caused the loss of millions of jobs. If corporate America wants us to buy their products they need to manufacture those products in this country, not in China or other low-wage countries.
    • Creating 1 million jobs for disadvantaged young Americans by investing $5.5 billion in a youth jobs program. Today, the youth unemployment rate is off the charts. We have got to end this tragedy by making sure teenagers and young adults have the jobs they need to move up the economic ladder.
    • Fighting for pay equity by signing the Paycheck Fairness Act into law. It is an outrage that women earn just 78 cents for every dollar a man earns.
    • Making tuition free at public colleges and universities throughout America. Everyone in this country who studies hard should be able to go to college regardless of income.
    • Expanding Social Security by lifting the cap on taxable income above $250,000. At a time when the senior poverty rate is going up, we have got to make sure that every American can retire with dignity and respect.
    • Guaranteeing healthcare as a right of citizenship by enacting a Medicare for all single-payer healthcare system. It’s time for the U.S. to join every major industrialized country on earth and provide universal healthcare to all.
    • Requiring employers to provide at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave; two weeks of paid vacation; and 7 days of paid sick days. Real family values are about making sure that parents have the time they need to bond with their babies and take care of their children and relatives when they get ill.
    • Enacting a universal childcare and prekindergarten program. Every psychologist understands that the most formative years for a human being is from the ages 0-3. We have got to make sure every family in America has the opportunity to send their kids to a high quality childcare and pre-K program.
    • Making it easier for workers to join unions by fighting for the Employee Free Choice Act. One of the most significant reasons for the 40-year decline in the middle class is that the rights of workers to collectively bargain for better wages and benefits have been severely undermined.
    • Breaking up huge financial institutions so that they are no longer too big to fail. Seven years ago, the taxpayers of this country bailed out Wall Street because they were too big to fail. Yet, 3 out of the 4 largest financial institutions are 80 percent bigger today than before we bailed them out. We need to fight to get this legislation signed into law.
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    This sounds like it is right up your alley Chet. Join up with Bernie and help make it happen. They need action guys like you. They have listed most all of your wants. Now you can tell them HOW.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    GOP insiders: Pence would beat Clinton - POLITICO

    Politico › story › 2016/10 › would-pence...

    Oct 7, 2016 - Just about any other GOPnominee would have beat Hillary Clinton by an unprecedented number.”.

    You just cited a right wing blog and a Republican from North Carolina as your "proof."

    Do you just conduct google searches with words that will validate your beliefs without actually taking the time to research if they are legit sources?

  • Center Left
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    I often disagree with Chet and I have the utmost respect for both Jared and Schmidt but I will simply agree to disagree. If there was a presidential election in 30, 60, 90 or 180 days I believe your party would be crushed. Perhaps you're both unaware or in denial but I think the party leadership is weak and pathetic. We would have a shot because R' s have proven to be evil self serving haters who want no inclusion of any kind. We have not won much in the last 8 years and far right media has effectively branded us in totally negative terms. I would think 2 intelligent men could be instrumental in encouraging an improvement in the party's path. Instead you sit on your hands and wait. I too thought the ignorant buffoon couldn't or wouldn't be elected. I too was wrong. Jared, you should seriously quit saying she won. She did not. High school is where you might have a popularity contest. She's not the president - hell, she's not even relevant. Thanks to far right media, liberal or progressive are right up there with rabid, puss riddled weak dying dog. We only have a shot because "They" are so bad. Ignore the massive hole we are in if you like. A 2nd term is quite likely. I don't know that there's any type of poll to support my views but things are anything but fine and dandy. In another thread I posted an article by Bill Moyer. I suggest reading it.

    p.s. Schmidt, I am just now reading your above post. It contains good things but as congressional and Senate minorities we able to do little to nothing.

    I will never vote for B. Sanders because he doesn't explain how it all would be paid for.

    Thanks Google. Recent poll

    google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/0...

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pay...

    How Bernie pays for his proposals

    Bernie Sanders has a plan to pay for every spending program he has introduced to date.

    PlanPayment

    Rebuild America Act: Sen. Sanders has proposed a $1 trillion plan to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and put 13 million Americans to work.Paid for by making corporations pay taxes on all of the“profits” they have shifted to the Cayman Islands and other offshore tax havens, which the Congressional Research Services estimates may currently create losses that approach $100 billion annually, and other loopholes.

    College for All: Sen. Sanders has proposed making public colleges and universities tuition-free and substantially reducing student debt, in a plan that would cost about $75 billion a year.Paid for by imposing a tax on Wall Street speculators that would generate about $300 billion in revenue.

    Expand and Extend Social Security: Sen. Sanders has proposed expanding Social Security and extending the solvency of this program until 2065.Paid for by lifting the cap on taxable income above $250,000 so that the wealthy pay the same percentage of their income into Social Security as working people.

    Youth Jobs Program: Sen. Sanders has proposed a $5.5 billion youth jobs program to create 1 million jobs for disadvantaged young Americans.Paid for by ending the carried interest loophole that allows billionaire hedge fund managers to pay a lower tax rate than nurses and truck drivers.

    Paid Family and Medical Leave: Sen. Sanders has proposed at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave to all workers.Paid for by a payroll tax that would total $1.61 a week for the typical American worker. According to Sen. Gillibrand’s office, this would be “a self-sufficient program that would not add to the federal budget.”

    Protect Pensions: Sen. Sanders has introduced a plan to prevent cuts to the pensions of over 1.5 million Americans.Paid for by closing two tax loopholes that allow the wealthy to avoid taxes on money they inherit and expensive artworkthey collect.

    Renewable Energy and Clean Jobs Transition: Sen. Sanders has a planto invest in clean, sustainable energy sources powered by the sun, wind and Earth’s heat. He also has a plan to provide comprehensive benefits to workers as they transition to making the solar panels, wind turbines, and batteries of tomorrow.Paid for by stopping taxpayer-funded giveaways to oil, gas and coal companies.

    Sen. Sanders has introduced a plan to expand health care coverage to every American.Paid for by a 6.2 percent income-based health care premium paid by employers, a 2.2 percent income-based premium paid by households, progressive income tax rates, taxing capital gains and dividends the same as income from work, limiting tax deductions for the rich, adjusting the estate tax, and savings from health tax expenditures.

    Cost and Revenue of Proposed Plans

    PlanCostFundingRevenue

    Rebuild America Act$1 trillion
    / 5 yearsTaxing corporate offshore income
    [Congressional Research Service, 1/15/15]$1 trillion / 10 years

    College for All$75 billion / yearWall Street speculation tax
    [Political Economy Research Institute,
    University of Massachusetts-Amherst, 3/16]About $300 billion / year

    Social Security Expansion Act$1.2 trillion / 10 yearsRemove payroll tax cap for earnings above $250,000
    [Office of the Chief Actuary, Social Security Administration, 3/26/15]$1.2 trillion / 10 years

    Employ Young Americans Now Act$5.5 billion
    / 2 yearsClosing carried interest loophole
    [Joint Committee on Taxation, 9/16/15]$15.6 billion / 10 years

    Offer 12 weeks of paid family and medical leaveAdditional 0.2% Payroll Tax
    [Office of Senator Kirsten Gillibrand]$319 billion
    / 10 years

    Keep Our Pension Promises Act$29 billion / 10 yearsClosing tax loopholes on estate taxes and artwork
    [Pension Rights Center, 7/7/15]$29 billion / 10 years

    Responsible Estate Tax ActProgressive estate tax on inheritances over $3.5 million; closes estate tax loopholes.$214 billion
    /10 years

    End Polluter Welfare Act$110 billion /10 yearsEnds tax breaksand subsidies for fossil fuel companies$135 billion
    /10 years

    Medicare for All Health Care Plan$1.38 trillion / yearPaid for by a 6.2 percent income-based health care premium paid by employers, a 2.2 percent income-based premium paid by households, progressive income tax rates, taxing capital gains and dividends the same as income from work, limiting tax deductions for the rich, adjusting the estate tax, and savings from health tax expenditures.$1.39 trillion / year

    War Should Be the Last Option: Why I Support the Iran Deal

    Are you ready?


  • Liberal Democrat
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    And so Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan are on board, ready to embrace Bernie's "Our Revolution" initiatives? And what happens if they say no? Who to blame?

    So let's see, Bernie's planning to introduce a "Medicare for all" proposal in the Senate. It's a start. Let's see what kind of support he gets amongst Republicans in the Senate.

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    TJ Wrote:

    I often disagree with Chet and I have the utmost respect for both Jared and Schmidt but I will simply agree to disagree. If there was a presidential election in 30, 60, 90 or 180 days I believe your party would be crushed. Perhaps you're both unaware or in denial but I think the party leadership is weak and pathetic. We would have a shot because R' s have proven to be evil self serving haters who want no inclusion of any kind. We have not won much in the last 8 years and far right media has effectively branded us in totally negative terms. I would think 2 intelligent men could be instrumental in encouraging an improvement in the party's path. Instead you sit on your hands and wait. I too thought the ignorant buffoon couldn't or wouldn't be elected. I too was wrong. Jared, you should seriously quit saying she won. She did not. High school is where you might have a popularity contest. She's not the president - hell, she's not even relevant. Thanks to far right media, liberal or progressive are right up there with rabid, puss riddled weak dying dog. We only have a shot because "They" are so bad. Ignore the massive hole we are in if you like. A 2nd term is quite likely. I don't know that there's any type of poll to support my views but things are anything but fine and dandy. In another thread I posted an article by Bill Moyer. I suggest reading it.

    p.s. Schmidt, I am just now reading your above post. It contains good things but as congressional and Senate minorities we able to do little to nothing.

    I will never vote for B. Sanders because he doesn't explain how it all would be paid for.

    Thanks Google. Recent poll

    google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/0...

    Tony, you expressed my feelings exactly; however about the "payment" issue. Yes that is an problem here, because of this stupid "capitalistic system" which benefits the rich more than hard working people. The only way to "pay" for good social services as they do in Europe is to have a sliding scale tax system (the poor pay 10%; the rich up to 70%) Get rid of the "lobbying" system and corruption. Furthermore tax the "churches"; implement "dog" tax etc. (like in Europe); pollution tax on trucks an buses; install modern high speed rail as well commuter mass transport etc. (not everyone can afford the cost of having an car in the cities; let alone the parking etc.) There is so much to fix here; it will give an huge employment boost as well. Of course as was said by P.R. under the thread Afghanistan; stop our stupid wars and war mongering as well reduce the war industry budgets and Pentagon waste. Do we really need an 13 billion dollar warship and built even more??

    Last but not least; READ GUYS ARTICLE ABOUT ON HOW OUR NUCLEAR ARSENAL IS MANAGED: IT WILL SHOCK YOU.