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The rise of the Flat Earth movement in Colorado

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Transparent aluminum pviewed in 1986 Star Trek IV is now a reality. I found it researching for bullet proof glass.

    Star Trek's Transparent Aluminum Has Now Been Invented

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    Sep 9, 2016 - A technology first imagined inStar Trek IV: The Voyage Home is now ... “transparent aluminum” first appears in the1986 film Star Trek IV ...

  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote: Films and TV shows like Star Trek offer a form of escapism from the real world. The more we have anxiety about reality, the more these shows do well. Look at the top box office draws at the movies lately...Superwoman, Spider-Man, and others offer escapism from morbid Trump news for a few hours. The mind can only take so much of Trump news before it starts reacting irrationally as well. Time to go fishing.
    Yes you are correct; people try to escape the Trump mess. However they don't realize that they helped to create that mess themselves by voting for the lunatic via crazy antique voting laws. The other point is people here hate reality; thus rather live in la la land. Indeed go fishing or empty your gun on a few squirels out of frustration or take some more opioids. (May be use the "hairgrow pills" which makes you "nutty" as prescribed by "doctor Duck Dynasty" for Trump)
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Schmidt Wrote: Films and TV shows like Star Trek offer a form of escapism from the real world. The more we have anxiety about reality, the more these shows do well. Look at the top box office draws at the movies lately...Superwoman, Spider-Man, and others offer escapism from morbid Trump news for a few hours. The mind can only take so much of Trump news before it starts reacting irrationally as well. Time to go fishing.
    Yes you are correct; people try to escape the Trump mess. However they don't realize that they helped to create that mess themselves by voting for the lunatic via crazy antique voting laws. The other point is people here hate reality; thus rather live in la la land. Indeed go fishing or empty your gun on a few squirels out of frustration or take some more opioids. (May be use the "hairgrow pills" which makes you "nutty" as prescribed by "doctor Duck Dynasty" for Trump)

    I must be an abnormal American, I can't get enough of investigative reports on Trump, but there's Saturday and Sundays, when I'll try to watch old movies to help get my mind off of Trump, except Sundays, Chuck Todd Meet The Press.

    One of my recently acquired movies in noir is Orson Welles, The Stranger, with Edward G. Robinson. I'm not really into science fiction, I dislike StarTrek and others like Stargate etc.. When younger, I watched Star Wars 5 times in the same week, couldn't get enough of it, mainly because of the special affects.

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    Re: flat earthers et al

    see bird's theorem.

    for those who do not know bird's theorem:

    "'we the people' are stupid."

  • Independent
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    So if the earth is really flat, how do they explain all the space exploration done (with pictures, video, etc) that show the world is round. Unless of course, all space exploration has been faked as part of a massive world wide conspiracy. Just think of all the billions spent on maintaining the conspiracy. There got to be some huge underground complex, employing 1000s of people (sworn an oath to never reveal the truth).

    And if the world is flat, that means some guy came up with round earth conspiracy 1000s of years ago, and science has yet to figure out the truth. That mean pretty everything we know to be scientifically true, is BS. OMG, were living in the dark ages. Wink

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Look at it this way, if you're living off the grid with a lot of time on your hands, you invent stuff. Some call it being out of touch with reality. Usually the only thing that becomes exciting is a trip to town to buy parts for your solar collector.
  • Independent
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    Yes the more I look at our present government then indeed this country must be still "flat" and still living in the "Jesus" time; that is why they invented the "paddle board" so they can imitate "Jesus". However they forget that gravity holds the "board" on the waves. Jesus floated (without any propulsion) to Mars, so he had no problem with "gravity" because he was weightless. Wow.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    wwjd Wrote:

    So if the earth is really flat, how do they explain all the space exploration done (with pictures, video, etc) that show the world is round. Unless of course, all space exploration has been faked as part of a massive world wide conspiracy. Just think of all the billions spent on maintaining the conspiracy. There got to be some huge underground complex, employing 1000s of people (sworn an oath to never reveal the truth).

    And if the world is flat, that means some guy came up with round earth conspiracy 1000s of years ago, and science has yet to figure out the truth. That mean pretty everything we know to be scientifically true, is BS. OMG, were living in the dark ages. Wink

    Camera tricks, special effects or affects.
  • Center Left
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    Inclusion is my explanation. Many don't want to believe what 98.5 % believe. They want to say it's wacky and not popular but I am all in.

    Birther, Muslim, plus 6 - 8 other crazy theories.... deplorable men don't care. They just want to be in a group with others like themselves. Ahhh, where you belong.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    New Yorker: How Trump Is Transforming Rural America

    I don't know if the above link will work. I'm a subscriber to the New Yorker so maybe non-subscribers cannot access it.

    The excellent article is about some Trump supporters in Grand Junction Colorado that the author interviewed in depth. It could really apply to any small or medium sized town (Grand Junction is about 150,000) in America. The Trump supporters were rabid in their support for him, but what caught my attention is how strongly that they have bought into Trump's "fake news" lies.

    During a typical rally there Trump said, “There’s a voter fraud also with the media, because they so poison the minds of the people by writing false stories.” He pointed in our direction, describing us as “criminals,” among other things: “They’re lying, they’re cheating, they’re stealing! They’re doing everything, these people right back here!" as he pointed to the journalists at the back of the room. The author continues:

    "Such behavior is out of character for residents of rural Colorado, where politeness and public decency are highly valued. Erin McIntyre, a Grand Junction native who works for the Daily Sentinel, the local paper, stood in the crowd, where the people around her screamed at the journalists: “Lock them up!” “Hang them all!” “Electric chair!” Afterward, McIntyre posted a description of the event on Facebook. “I thought I knew Mesa County,” she wrote. “That’s not what I saw yesterday. And it scared me.”"

    Trump's message of fake news and the media being the "enemy of the American people" resonates with the Trump voters of Grand Junction, Colorado. And I suppose the same could be said for rural Pennsylvania towns or rural Tennessee towns. Trump sells hate and his supporters follow him.

    Is it any different than the flat earth believers in Colorado? People believe what they want to believe. If you are a psychologist you are seeing the object (a "Jim Jones" messiah of sorts) of future research projects of the mind living in the White House.

    The article is long but worth your time to read. It tells you why Trump's poll numbers will never really get below 35 percent even if he shoots someone on 5th Avenue. How many of them would also be a willing part of a 21 century Jonestown?

  • Center Left
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    The fog has lifted. They're everywhere in all their glory. Now if only we could get "them" to vote for "us".
  • Independent
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    And some people say there is nothing wrong with this country? Let alone the "laws/rules", education, mindset, an lying/cheating government, indoctrination, missing common sense, religious fanatics, backwards States, plenty ex-military nutcases costing fortunes, etc. you name it. Even Schmidt found some weirdo's in his backyard!!
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    New Yorker: How Trump Is Transforming Rural America

    I don't know if the above link will work. I'm a subscriber to the New Yorker so maybe non-subscribers cannot access it.

    The excellent article is about some Trump supporters in Grand Junction Colorado that the author interviewed in depth. It could really apply to any small or medium sized town (Grand Junction is about 150,000) in America. The Trump supporters were rabid in their support for him, but what caught my attention is how strongly that they have bought into Trump's "fake news" lies.

    During a typical rally there Trump said, “There’s a voter fraud also with the media, because they so poison the minds of the people by writing false stories.” He pointed in our direction, describing us as “criminals,” among other things: “They’re lying, they’re cheating, they’re stealing! They’re doing everything, these people right back here!" as he pointed to the journalists at the back of the room. The author continues:

    "Such behavior is out of character for residents of rural Colorado, where politeness and public decency are highly valued. Erin McIntyre, a Grand Junction native who works for the Daily Sentinel, the local paper, stood in the crowd, where the people around her screamed at the journalists: “Lock them up!” “Hang them all!” “Electric chair!” Afterward, McIntyre posted a description of the event on Facebook. “I thought I knew Mesa County,” she wrote. “That’s not what I saw yesterday. And it scared me.”"

    Trump's message of fake news and the media being the "enemy of the American people" resonates with the Trump voters of Grand Junction, Colorado. And I suppose the same could be said for rural Pennsylvania towns or rural Tennessee towns. Trump sells hate and his supporters follow him.

    Is it any different than the flat earth believers in Colorado? People believe what they want to believe. If you are a psychologist you are seeing the object (a "Jim Jones" messiah of sorts) of future research projects of the mind living in the White House.

    The article is long but worth your time to read. It tells you why Trump's poll numbers will never really get below 35 percent even if he shoots someone on 5th Avenue. How many of them would also be a willing part of a 21 century Jonestown?

    One hates to disillusion Ms. McIntyre but that most certainly is Mesa County. Remove the veneer of civilization anywhere and you expose what disturbed her. Hatred lies very near the surface. Trump tapped that and this is the result.